Bucs not planning to extend Josh Freeman
 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...mans-contract/

According to Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times, the Bucs won’t be extending Freeman’s contract, which expires after the 2013 season. And as Stroud explains it, the decision not to sign Freeman to a new deal could be part of a plan by coach Greg Schiano, who inherited Freeman, to get his own quarterback. And Freeman may change Schiano’s mind only by playing so well this season that Freeman leaves the Bucs with no other option than to use the franchise tag or sign him to a long-term deal.

One possibility would be to apply the non-exclusive tag and to see if anyone is willing to sign Freeman to an offer sheet and give up a pair of first-round picks. That would enable the Bucs to pull a reverse Keyshawn, giving up a player and getting two first-round picks 14 years after they gave up two first-round picks to get Keyshawn Johnson from the Jets.

The Bucs likely would settle for less, since the alternative will be to let Freeman walk away.

Sign me up. Guy is from KC and only 24 years old.

:hmmm:

Wow. This one intrigues me.

Hmmm..maybe he's a trade option for KC. Sign me up for a 2nd rounder

He strikes as pretty meh.....

Freeman is a decent QB, from the KC area too if I remember right?

Ha ha, right.

I'd still want them to draft a QBOTF but, there's a move I could live with

Meh. I would NOT be impressed with him as a #1 option unless Geno Smith/Tyler Wilson was competing with him for the starting job. This would create some good competition and leave us with a good backup.

ROFL

Dudes been mediocre at best and the Chiefs have the #1 pick to get their own QB and some people are drooling over this kid to be a Chief.

NO!

There is a reason we have not extended him. His footwork is poor and he has some accuracy "issues".

Not for 2 first round picks. No way.

Drafting Geno & getting Freeman > Cassel, Quinn & Stanzi.

Drafting Geno and not wasting picks to trade for Freeman > Drafting Geno and trading for Freeman.

Stole my wording exactly, as a FA maybe but no way to that.

#1 pick in a draft that most people would agree is weak at the top, specifically at the QB position.

The most important thing is, he doesnt appear to much of a winner.

What's your point?

You think the Buccaneers aren't extending Freeman because he's a great QB and to do the Chiefs a favor?

ROFL Best joke ive hear in a long time!

This. A 3rd going to a 2nd with playing time in 2014 would be nice for Freeman.

Trading a 2nd for Freeman is way too much. The reason they are going to be parting ways with him is he is just not very good. You do not give up anything more than a 4th or 5th for him

Im not drooling over the kid. But if we could give up a 3rd or maybe a 2nd then you gota entertain it.

Youre right i was just throwing some picks around. If we could give up a 4th this year and a conditional pick next year. Id go for it

We're going to need at least 2 new QBs and everyone agrees that one of them should be a vet. Freeman is no Montanna but, he's not Jafatass either. He would be a hell of a backup and could start a few games if needed. If you could get him at a reasonable price I really dont see a problem with it

In a QB-driven league, when a team doesn't extend a 24 year old QB who was drafted in the first round, you've got to wonder if it's buyer beware.

For a 4th. As a backup to Geno/whoever we draft, Id be happy to have him.

I'll take FA Jason Campbell or Matt Moore and save the 3rd/4th round pick, thank you.

We should not be giving up picks for ANYBODY.

If a team is willing to part with a player, whether it's Cousins, Flynn, or Freeman, there's a REASON for it.

Sign a FREE agent and keep our picks.

well, he is better than Stanzi and Stanzi will need to be replaced so if he will be happy taking the 3rd spot on the depth chart to see if he can improve his position...ok

I wonder how hard he laughed after writing that

I think it is crazy that half the people on this site act like Geno is bust proof. I wonder what they know that none of the scouts that do this for a living don't?

A guy like this is right in Reid's wheelhouse. With some quality coaching, Freeman should improve

I think Geno is so bust proof I want the Chiefs to draft 2 QBs this year while signing Jason Campbell or Matt Moore.

My point is I don't think there is a great QB to be had in the draft. I know Geno is god around here but let's not pretend he's a proven commodity.

Secondly, if you read the article you might have noticed it mentioned that Schiano might be looking for his own guy. If he and Freeman are not a good match than Freeman moves on. You can't deny this guy has talent. Not saying he is Aaron Rodgers and Terry Bradshaws love child or anything but he's 20x the QB the Chiefs have had in the last 5 years.

Tebow has talent. He's just not very good.

Jets are taking offers.

God no. Next.

You're right. Forget Freeman, Matt Moore/Jason Campbell FTW!!!!!ROFL

Geno is bust proof!!!LMAO

He was decent as a rookie but has pretty much sucked the past 2 seasons.

If a 24 year old 1st rounder with 3 years experience is being shopped, it's not because the team likes his upside.

Better than what we have now, but not the answer IMO.

Absolutely no thanks. We've had enough stiffs around here, no need for another one.

Next.

Yes, because not wanting to trade for a once first round pick that is already being shown the door before his rookie deal expires means Geno is bust proof.

God this fan base is stupid.

I wanna see Clay's reaction to this... :D

PFF is going to show us how Freeman is better than Cassel and Quinn.

Cant deny Brady Quinn's talent either.

And who the **** cares if hes better than the qbs we've had lately. 75% of the qbs in the league fit that description. It doesn't take much to be better than them.
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Hell ****ing no...

I'd like Freeman if he were a FA.

2 firsts? LMAO

He was good in his second year, but 2011 was a trainwreck and the last month of last season he was below average. However, in his defense the entire team struggled.

But drafting two qb's and pinning you hopes for the 2013 season on Jason Campbell/Matt Moore is much smarter than drafting one qb and trading a mid-round pick for a 24 year old first rd qb who won 10 games his first full year starting and posted the below numbers.

2010 TB 16 291 474 61.4 3,451 7.3 25 6 95.9

Yeah this kind of thing ALWAYS works out in the NFL... :rolleyes:

GENO ISN'T A SURE THING GUYS

Yeah, I'm sure that's what the Bears said when they traded for Cutler

Who the **** said we were going to pin our hopes on Jason Campbell or Matt Moore. They would be the backup you dumbass.

I heard Matt Cassel put up a good stat line one year too. We should keep him!

I'm not suggesting we sign Freeman to a 6/$60M dollar deal you ****ing idiot. I think we should take a flyer on Freeman for a mid-round pick. I want this football team to upgrade the QB position anyway possible. Drafting a QB at #1 isn't enough. Freeman is young and talented. He has more upside than any qb you will take in the mid rounds of this draft IMO.

And I never said you were suggesting signing Freeman to a $60M deal you dumbass.

He doesn't have more upside than mid round QBs in this draft because he's as talented as a mid round pick and he's shown what he can do in the NFL and its NOT GOOD.

:clap::clap::clap:

Agreed.

So take a QB in the first round of the draft instead.

NO. NO. **** NO.

We need EVERY pick we have. Get a FREE AGENT.

I'd take this guy in a HEARTBEAT, he's EXACTLY the kind of big, physical pocket passer i prefer.

Guys like that arent nearly as afraid to step into pressure, they can make throws with guys hanging all over them and are much harder to sack... give him intense coaching and guidance and look out.

I would LOVE it, take a young hotshot #1 and let'em fight it out.

Do not bring him in for a look
I repeat
Do not bring him in for a look

Keep looking.

He is not your answer.

As much as Andy Reid likes to throw you need to find the next Brees, Brady, Manning or Rodgers.

I have no idea who in the hell that is though.

QB in the first, and snag Freeman for the correct price (not two firsts).

Regarding Freeman's upside, I would defer to Reid. Freeman has shown some awesome flashes, and also sucked a lot of ass. Maybe its a correctable thing, maybe its not.

But again, I would defer to Reid's QB knowledge.

I suggest a good number of you read the goddamn article to avoid confusion.

The bucs aren't releasing him. He won't be a FA this off-season.

They're going to make him play out his contract. After seeing what he does next season they'll make a decision to re sign him, let him walk, or franchise him. They're just not extending him NOW.

Reading is fundamental folks.

Thats not what the article suggests at all.

That is the writers opinion.

Comprehension is fundamental.

Uh, yeah. We know. These threads are designed for discussion.

Mostly, no one here would trade for him.

I think its safe to assume they wouldn't leak this information if they weren't trying to create some trade hype.

Freeman's contract status is NOT an opinion.

It expires after 2013, not 2012. He won't be a FA this offseason. People need to stop acting like he's an option this off-season. He won't be.

A lot of people aren't talking about him in trade manner. You don't 'bring him in for a look' when you trade for a guy. That's FA talk.

The last time this team had a high 2nd round pick, it was traded for Matt Cassel.

Maybe the team could trade Cassel to Tampa for Freeman? Throw in Quinn?

Keep the picks, no thanks for trading them away again.

:facepalm:

The only thing not an opinion in this article is the leak that the Buccs aren't going to extend Freeman.

No one has said "bring him in for a look" until you just said it right there.

"Reading is fundamental."

There is no way you guys can get Freeman this year without giving up a pick or picks. The Chiefs cannot afford to throw away any picks right now.

LMAO i'm at work, not always a lot of time to read through everything.

As for me, just giving an instant thought on the guy.

I wouldn't trade for him at all.

Period.

As a FA I'd consider bringing him in just like we did Brady (bye.)

Then this is exactly what Chiefs fans want under center...

Have you ever seen him play ?
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Anyone OTHER than KC?...

:spock:

Yes, he's very inconsistent, but i'd bet that with a top QB man in his ear every day he could fix that.

He isnt available anyway, oh well, still excited for the future.

after he's cut, if reid thinks he has potential, ok.

I'd give a low 2nd and a pack of hubba-bubba

Yep. And who trusts that he doesn't turn into a drama queen because he can't beat the QBOTF out of a starting position as a 24 yr old as he sits on the bench in HIS HOMETOWN ?

He's never been a drama queen.

casshole and stanzi trade for freeman, do it walrus!

That's about the only trade I would do for Freeman... trash for trash.