So become an Arizona Cardinals fan?

I take it you're not familiar with anything more than their recent history...

Oh, I remember plenty - not quite old enough to remember them moving from St. L...but I remember Timm Rosenbach, and Joe Bugel. I remember that they drafted Garrison Hearst. I remember they were almost decent, and then Buddy Ryan signed Seth Joyner and Boomer Esiason and then blew the whole thing up and quit at halftime of the Christmas Eve (or Night) game against the Cowboys. I remember Jake Plummer and Dave McGinist...

That's really my point; I'd rather be a Cardinals fan - the futility is not only acceptable, it's expected.

Whereas expecting this franchise to ever pull its collective head out if its ass and
actually be GREAT again??

Well, I just don't see it happening.

Todd Haley gets every single ounce of productivity from even the shittiest players on the roster (see : Matt Cassel)

Wherever he goes, I hope that team does well.

I am under no illusions that the Chiefs will be seriously competitive for a decade, at least.

Nobody listens to me. :cuss: :deevee: LMAO

what, that Todd's going back to Arizona?

Dude, Pittsburgh's defense gave up a ton of yards and points. Going no huddle always stresses your defense, and Haley not using it late in the game makes good solid sense to me, sorry.

I'm not a 'OMG Haley is awesome' guy. I think he had some good points and in some ways was in clearly over his head, but I think in Pittsburgh he's done a good job and did a good job yesterday in particular.

Oh, and another thing-
Roethlisberger threw what was basically a pick six in OT. He wants to hang the loss on Haley? **** him.

I'm kinda iffy on Haley, but I agree with this.

Blaming the playcalling when you throw away the game is weak sauce.

This.

And this.

Pioli!

Flashback 2009! :D

The talent on the line and especially at running back are a hell of a lot worse this year. That's not coaching, that's personnel. But all in all, the steelers are blocking with better technique and big Ben is getting rid of the ball a hell of a lot faster. Ben is upset because he can't freelance but you cannot have him do that at his age behind this offensive line.

Their offense has been very good this yea despite a lot of adversity. The steelers have built their team around the defense being stingy with points and aggressive I'm creating turnovers. They're not doing either. And so you have way too many games like yesterday where the offense is productive but you end up losing.

Kansas City - Where 20th ranked offenses is a good job.

Wouldn't shock me if he's gone from Pittsburgh. He's not a good fit there. They just got bumped from the playoffs and their offense took a step backwards.

Haley blows, but I'll bet the Cards want him as a HC.

WHY


why would anyone want that angry little man who blames everyone but his ****ing self when shit goes wrong?

Just because this season has been a horror story doesn't mean we need to get desperate and go after whoever is available, nobody seems to like that guy and so far he's ONLY proven he can win with Kurt Warner, Bolden and Fitzgerald.

I hate the off season talk, it's always filled with shit like this. Romeo sucks, and was a horrible choice, Haley sucks and is a horrible idea.

FFS bring some good ideas instead of this shit.

Dude, don't know if you've been watching this season and remembering the last 6 years, Pitt has taken a pretty big step back with Haley, that is painfully obvious and you have to be blind not to see his imprint on that team has not been good, decent or anything remotely close to previous years.