Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9361461)

Woah now, Tiger. Slow down.

With bad feet, he has an average NFL 'arm'. I feel like anytime I say anything remotely critical of Smith I have to preface it by reminding anyone reading that I love the guy as a prospect, but let's be realistic here.

Yes, his 'arm' is great, but he doesn't get the most out of it because he doesn't use his legs right. So when you talk about his arm, you're not really talking about what it is capable of with proper mechanics, but rather you're talking about the actual velocity generated when he throws a football. When his feet aren't working right, his 'arm' is still strong but he's not getting the most out of it so his velocity wanes. When he's doing that, his usable arm strength is very Sam Bradford-esque; adequate, but not outstanding.

Again, Matt Cassel can throw a football 60 yards - we've seen him do it. NFL arm-strength is otherworldly, even among the guys with 'noodle' arms. It massively understates just how gifted these guys are athletically to say that Geno is going to come in here with bad legs and still have a better arm than 2/3 of the league.

C'mon. Let's be honest about Smith's strengths right now. Velocity isn't among them.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9361656)

This......the zip on his passes are not impressive.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9361656)

This......the zip on his passes are not impressive.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9361668)

Would we all be fine with a less douchy, more mobile Philip Rivers at #1 overall?

Seeing as how the original completely douchy, less mobile Philip Rivers went at #3, I would be fine with it.

If Geno never can get his feet firmed up, Rivers is his ceiling. If that's what he ends up, would everyone presently on the Geno train consider it a good pick?

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9361656)

This......the zip on his passes are not impressive.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9361656)

This......the zip on his passes are not impressive.

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9361674)

I bet 100M CC money at the combine that won't be a big issue or that he proves it's not. That he will show plenty of zip on his passes.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9361692)

So there's a guy who's able to drop any throw from the line of scrimmage to 50 yards out into a tight window, and the criticism is "the zip on his passes is not impressive".

Mmmkay.

Talk about paralysis of analysis.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9361620)

Do you ever get tired of not having any original takes and just busting on other people's opinions all the time?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9361668)

If Geno never can get his feet firmed up, Rivers is his ceiling. If that's what he ends up, would everyone presently on the Geno train consider it a good pick?

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9361685)

No question it would be. (Not to nitpick, but it was the 4th pick)

Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 9361714)

Yea it's getting ridiculous. Some people just don't like Geno and will say anything to convince others to dislike him as well.

Geno has some flaws but zip on his passes isn't one of them.