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007 07-10-2012 05:51 PM

I always run with the assumption that these companies can figure out what you are doing online

BigRock 07-10-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8730104)
Many ISPs are now actively seeking out violators of their own volition.

It's not starting now and no ISPs are doing anything of their own volition.

I quoted a post earlier in this thread that I said I couldn't speak to the accuracy of. Well, a few days after that post, this article came out in Time and said all the same things:

http://business.time.com/2012/06/26/...online-piracy/

pr_capone 07-10-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 8731921)
It's not starting now and no ISPs are doing anything of their own volition.

I quoted a post earlier in this thread that I said I couldn't speak to the accuracy of. Well, a few days after that post, this article came out in Time and said all the same things:

http://business.time.com/2012/06/26/...online-piracy/

:thumb:

I misunderstood the article. In the end, Cox is still not involved with this cooperation. :D

In the end... I'm kind of glad to see a kinder, gentler method of dealing with pirates. Anything is better than suing grandmothers for hundreds of thousands of dollars for their grandkids d/l'ing 3 songs off Kazaa.

mnchiefsguy 07-28-2012 05:22 PM

Signed up for giganews...it came with mimo as a newsgroup reader/downloader. Any good, or should I look elsewhere for a client?

kcxiv 07-28-2012 05:35 PM

someone told me this was put on hold. Who knows, i know i havent gotten any notice yet. lol In the end if this turns out to to be true, then there is no point in having high bandwidth. lol ill just drop my billl to the cheap one for 19.99 a month instead of me paying almost 50 lol ill still end up a winner regardless.

BigRedChief 07-29-2012 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8731953)
:thumb:

I misunderstood the article. In the end, Cox is still not involved with this cooperation. :D

In the end... I'm kind of glad to see a kinder, gentler method of dealing with pirates. Anything is better than suing grandmothers for hundreds of thousands of dollars for their grandkids d/l'ing 3 songs off Kazaa.

Now, you got something to really worry about. Maybe you already know, maybe you don't. This is public information.

NSA allies with Internet carriers to thwart cyber attacks against defense firms
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...kXH_story.html

NSA Chief says we need a defense system for the internet. They are volunteering to run it.
http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/t...-system-914174

He compared the Internet's traffic to a toll highway, and said he'd like the NSA to act as the monitor. Most traffic would barely be paid attention to, like a car with an "EZ Pass" cruising through without being stopped. But suspicious traffic would be identified and tracked.

As MIT's Technology Review points out, NSA has prototyped a version of an Internet monitoring system, with 17 defense contractors participating. If an internal alarm is tripped, presumably in the event of a breach, telemetry from the event is relayed automatically to the NSA. Alexander would like to see something like this applied more broadly.

Brock 07-29-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8775432)
Now, you got something to really worry about. Maybe you already know, maybe you don't. This is public information.

NSA allies with Internet carriers to thwart cyber attacks against defense firms
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...kXH_story.html

NSA Chief says we need a defense system for the internet. They are volunteering to run it.
http://www.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/t...-system-914174

He compared the Internet's traffic to a toll highway, and said he'd like the NSA to act as the monitor. Most traffic would barely be paid attention to, like a car with an "EZ Pass" cruising through without being stopped. But suspicious traffic would be identified and tracked.

As MIT's Technology Review points out, NSA has prototyped a version of an Internet monitoring system, with 17 defense contractors participating. If an internal alarm is tripped, presumably in the event of a breach, telemetry from the event is relayed automatically to the NSA. Alexander would like to see something like this applied more broadly.

So?

mnchiefsguy 07-29-2012 02:59 PM

Damn, I forgot what a bitch it is set up newsgroups (have not used a newsgroup in a long, long, time.)

Not getting crap for speed or connection with giganews. I am sure it is something in the setup, will just have to crank through it and figure it out.

Imon Yourside 07-29-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8774695)
Signed up for giganews...it came with mimo as a newsgroup reader/downloader. Any good, or should I look elsewhere for a client?

Yes just use web based SABnzbd, should be version 0615. ;)

*edited*

actually up to v0 72 here is the link http://sourceforge.net/projects/sabn...zbdplus/0.7.2/

Giganews is pretty much the fastest anywhere, i have 50 simultaneous connections...speed is not an issue.

mnchiefsguy 07-29-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8777043)
Yes just use web based SABnzbd, should be version 0615. ;)

*edited*

actually up to v0 72 here is the link http://sourceforge.net/projects/sabn...zbdplus/0.7.2/

Giganews is pretty much the fastest anywhere, i have 50 simultaneous connections...speed is not an issue.

Thanks, rep for the link. Mimo does not seem to work all that well...it says my speeds are between 5 Mbps and 20 Mbps, but the few downloads I have done have taken way longer than they should. I just need to figure out all the proper tweaks and get the best news reader, etc. to maximize my speed. I set up for 50 connections as well.... I have 16 gigs of ram in my new machine, so I should have enough resources to handle that many connections.

Imon Yourside 07-30-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8777141)
Thanks, rep for the link. Mimo does not seem to work all that well...it says my speeds are between 5 Mbps and 20 Mbps, but the few downloads I have done have taken way longer than they should. I just need to figure out all the proper tweaks and get the best news reader, etc. to maximize my speed. I set up for 50 connections as well.... I have 16 gigs of ram in my new machine, so I should have enough resources to handle that many connections.

use sabnzbd to dl and search for the files on here http://www.binsearch.info/

mnchiefsguy 07-30-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8777157)
use sabnzbd to dl and search for the files on here http://www.binsearch.info/

Setup sabnzbd, used binsearch, made an nzb...and got a connection speed of 59 kbs. Not sure why my giganews connection is so damn awful...although I did subscribe with the option of using their vpn. I will disable that next and see if my bottleneck is there.

Fish 07-30-2012 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8777141)
Thanks, rep for the link. Mimo does not seem to work all that well...it says my speeds are between 5 Mbps and 20 Mbps, but the few downloads I have done have taken way longer than they should. I just need to figure out all the proper tweaks and get the best news reader, etc. to maximize my speed. I set up for 50 connections as well.... I have 16 gigs of ram in my new machine, so I should have enough resources to handle that many connections.

RAM has nothing to do with how many connections you can handle.

In most cases, it's your own connection with your ISP that is the bottleneck. Have you run any speed tests to test your connection? Sometimes you'll have issues that aren't apparent until you're downloading from somewhere with shitloads of bandwidth like Newsgroups.

Imon Yourside 07-30-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8777205)
Setup sabnzbd, used binsearch, made an nzb...and got a connection speed of 59 kbs. Not sure why my giganews connection is so damn awful...although I did subscribe with the option of using their vpn. I will disable that next and see if my bottleneck is there.

Yes, it depends on your ISP...Roadrunner sucks using VPN whereas Surewest was fairly quick.

Lex Luthor 07-30-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8777399)
Yes, it depends on your ISP...Roadrunner sucks using VPN whereas Surewest was fairly quick.

I use SureWest, and my download speeds haven't noticeably changed since I began using IP Vanish a few weeks ago.

Setsuna 07-30-2012 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 8777445)
I use SureWest, and my download speeds haven't noticeably changed since I began using IP Vanish a few weeks ago.

Tell me about this. I have Comcast....is going around this possible?

mnchiefsguy 07-30-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 8777397)
RAM has nothing to do with how many connections you can handle.

In most cases, it's your own connection with your ISP that is the bottleneck. Have you run any speed tests to test your connection? Sometimes you'll have issues that aren't apparent until you're downloading from somewhere with shitloads of bandwidth like Newsgroups.

I usually test at speedtest.net. I have the Time Warner "Turbo" package, which is suppose to be 15 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up. Usually the test will return a d/l speed between 12-20, and an upload speed of slightly under 1 Mbps.

I get good speed on my bittorrents and such. Do I need to forward a port for the newsgroups like I do with utorrent? Had not thought of that till just now.

Imon Yourside 07-30-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8777733)
I usually test at speedtest.net. I have the Time Warner "Turbo" package, which is suppose to be 15 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up. Usually the test will return a d/l speed between 12-20, and an upload speed of slightly under 1 Mbps.

I get good speed on my bittorrents and such. Do I need to forward a port for the newsgroups like I do with utorrent? Had not thought of that till just now.

I have Time Warner 25mb/s and my 10mb/s surewest was 10 x faster, so it's definitely Time Warner...I will be switching back to surewest fairly soon.

Imon Yourside 07-30-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 8777445)
I use SureWest, and my download speeds haven't noticeably changed since I began using IP Vanish a few weeks ago.

Like I said, when i was with Surewest I had zero problems, RR just blows. Need Google Fiber!

mnchiefsguy 07-30-2012 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 8777754)
Like I said, when i was with Surewest I had zero problems, RR just blows. Need Google Fiber!

Wonder if Surewest services my part of town, their website says they do, but they also list my address as being in Raytown, KS, LOL, so that might not be accurate.....might be a good stopgap till google fiber comes along.

Imon Yourside 07-30-2012 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8777802)
Wonder if Surewest services my part of town, their website says they do, but they also list my address as being in Raytown, KS, LOL, so that might not be accurate.....might be a good stopgap till google fiber comes along.

I regret not staying with surewest, I had ZERO problems the 2 years i was with them. Other than the price of course.

kaplin42 09-16-2012 10:16 PM

shot in the dark, but anyone got a IPT invite by chance?

Setsuna 09-17-2012 02:17 PM

IPT a porn convention? If so, then yes.

kaplin42 09-18-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 8921275)
IPT a porn convention? If so, then yes.

Negative. But Im bumping in the hopes that someone out there will have an IPT invite that they don't mind sharing.

Buehler445 09-18-2012 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42 (Post 8925413)
Negative. But Im bumping in the hopes that someone out there will have an IPT invite that they don't mind sharing.

Don't think so but I'll check when I get home.


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