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the Talking Can 12-13-2012 08:13 AM

said the only hire pioli got right was mark donovan...

said Clark has/had no idea what was going on...he'd show up and pioli puts on a pony show, then he flies away...

BigMeatballDave 12-13-2012 08:14 AM

**** these reeruns and their opinions on Geno.

Draft Jones and trade Tamba?

**** you.

the Talking Can 12-13-2012 08:17 AM

"clark will solidify his reputation in the next 5 weeks...if he keeps pioli he is the worst owner in the nfl"

htismaqe 12-13-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9204429)
said the only hire pioli got right was mark donovan...

said Clark has/had no idea what was going on...he'd show up and pioli puts on a pony show, then he flies away...

Here's something nobody has thought of yet, or maybe they have and just haven't posted it...

How do we know Mark Donovan isn't talking to Clark on a daily basis, telling him all the nasty things Pioli is doing?

Chiefs PR reports up through DONOVAN, not Pioli.

Pioli is making the entire team look bad and Donovan has to deal with it more often than not.

RUSH 12-13-2012 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9204429)
said the only hire pioli got right was mark donovan...

said Clark has/had no idea what was going on...he'd show up and pioli puts on a pony show, then he flies away...

I believe he was referring to Clark when talking about Donovan.

Saying as much as he screwed up the Pioli hire, he did nail the Donovan hire.

I listened to that podcast last night (great stuff), and I didn't realize how bad it was. I read arrowhead anxiety and all that but right from the start with that dinner story it's been bad.

That was some damning stuff. I don't think Pioli will ever work in NFL again.

htismaqe 12-13-2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 9204451)
I believe he was referring to Clark when talking about Donovan.

Saying as much as he screwed up the Pioli hire, he did nail the Donovan hire.

I listened to that podcast last night (great stuff), and I didn't realize how bad it was. I read arrowhead anxiety and all that but right from the start with that dinner story it's been bad.

That was some damning stuff. I don't think Pioli will ever work in NFL again.

Right.

CLARK hired Donovan.

Donovan and Pioli are peers, in terms of the corporate structure.

the Talking Can 12-13-2012 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 9204451)
I believe he was referring to Clark when talking about Donovan.

Saying as much as he screwed up the Pioli hire, he did nail the Donovan hire.

I listened to that podcast last night (great stuff), and I didn't realize how bad it was. I read arrowhead anxiety and all that but right from the start with that dinner story it's been bad.

That was some damning stuff. I don't think Pioli will ever work in NFL again.

you're right

it is still hard to believe that pioli is this much of an asshole...everyone hates him...everyone

the Talking Can 12-13-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9204444)
Here's something nobody has thought of yet, or maybe they have and just haven't posted it...

How do we know Mark Donovan isn't talking to Clark on a daily basis, telling him all the nasty things Pioli is doing?

Chiefs PR reports up through DONOVAN, not Pioli.

Pioli is making the entire team look bad and Donovan has to deal with it more often than not.

yeah, you'd think Clark would go to him to confirm/deny some of this shit...but I bet it has only been recently, as Donovan knows pioli is a dead man walking

RUSH 12-13-2012 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9204465)
you're right

it is still hard to believe that pioli is this much of an asshole...everyone hates him...everyone

So basically Pioli has done nothing right in 4 years.

It's hard for me to wrap my head around how much of a failure this guy has been. Usually you have a few things here and there that you can say he has done well, but there is literally nothing.

He's alienated everyone that he works with and alienated the entire fanbase. And I think the majority of the fanbase gives too much leeway when it comes to the Chiefs, but this guy managed to turn everyone against him in just 4 years. Even the casual fans. Incredible, really.

mdchiefsfan 12-13-2012 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9203930)
Carolina's already fired their GM; why doesn't Clark announce that Pioli's tenure ends effective Week 17?

Everyone keeps asking how Daboll and Crennel still have jobs. Maybe because this whole staff is tied to Pioli's hip and they are riding into the sunset together. I could see this more likely than this regime coming back for a 2013 rerun. We KC fans are a rightfully cynical bunch, I tell you.

To add: In a season this dismal there is always a scapegoat fired; hell, Cam Cameron was fired from the playoff-bound Ravens. No one has been fired from the Chiefs. Adios ****ers!

the Talking Can 12-13-2012 08:51 AM

welp, it's just depressing that a franchise could be taken over by one guy this way

shutting down the foundations, not allowing players to promote themselves in the community or via media outlets, installing a regime of surveillance and fear...taking the fun out of everything for everyone

incalculable damage in 4 years...and every player and coach in the league knows it...what a miserable asshole

htismaqe 12-13-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 9204477)
Everyone keeps asking how Daboll and Crennel still have jobs. Maybe because this whole staff is tied to Pioli's hip and they are riding into the sunset together. I could see this more likely than this regime coming back for a 2013 rerun. We KC fans are a rightfully cynical bunch, I tell you.

To add: In a season this dismal there is always a scapegoat fired; hell, Cam Cameron was fired from the playoff-bound Ravens. No one has been fired from the Chiefs. Adios ****ers!

They're not coming back.

Teams fire individual pieces mid-season because they still have HOPE for said season.

There is no hope for this team until next season, so nobody will be fired until this season is over.

htismaqe 12-13-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9204482)
welp, it's just depressing that a franchise could be taken over by one guy this way

shutting down the foundations, not allowing players to promote themselves in the community or via media outlets, installing a regime of surveillance and fear...taking the fun out of everything for everyone

incalculable damage in 4 years...and every player and coach in the league knows it...what a miserable asshole

Yep.

mdchiefsfan 12-13-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9204502)
They're not coming back.

Teams fire individual pieces mid-season because they still have HOPE for said season.

There is no hope for this team until next season, so nobody will be fired until this season is over.

I don't think Carolina fired their GM to salvage this season. They just wanted it done. I think the reason for our wait is because the whole thing is going into a dumpster and lit on fire.

O.city 12-13-2012 09:03 AM

If someone, say Daboll, were fired a few weeks ago, then we might have a problem.

The fact taht no one has been released yet is a pretty damning thing for this regime. There is about to be an absolute axe fall on it.

And from what I've heard, the people in the organization love Marc Donovan and he's gonna be here for a long time. Those I've talked to think, once Pioli and his antics are gone, Donovan can have the fans back to where we were in the Chiefs "prime" years, very quickly.


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