"Not "Worth" The #1 Pick???
 

I have heard soooo many columnists and "experts" comment about the fact that there really isnt a QB "worth" the #1 pick.

What a bunch of horse crap. In the old CBA, when you had to pay the #1 pick $60-$70 million, I could understand this arguement and could agree with that. But in today's CBA, you dont dish that much out.

Andrew Luck's contract was for $22.1 million over 4 years. Yes, they had to pay $14.5 million in a signing bonus but so what?! In 2010, the Rams paid Sam Bradford a 6 year, $78 Million dollar contract with $50 Million GUARANTEED! Thats $13 million PER YEAR vs. Luck's $5.525 Million per year.

So even if Smith or whomever isnt the true Best Player available, I really dont think that in a situation like ours, where QB is such an obvious position of need, that $22 million for the #1 pick is really as big of a "reach" as we are led to believe by the experts.

To give you a comparison to Luck's #1 pick contract from 2012 at $22M, in 2010, this would be equivalent to the contract given to the #12 pick in the 2010 draft, Ryan Matthews in SD for $25.65M over 5 years.

Heck, I say draft a QB in Rounds 1, 2 & 3! Give us some frikken QB competition!

Rant end.

Chocolate

Alex Smith

Banned.

If you could trade the #1 pick for multiple picks and still get your QB, what's the harm?

I saw one draft that said Geno Smith isnt worth #1, but then had him going at #6 saying "you cant pass up value like that at #6". Is 6 to 1 that much of a "reach"?

They are just finding things to say at this point. Its four months away for christs sake.

This only further goes in line with my argument. As the #1 pick in his draft (2005), Smith received a 6 year, $49.5 million dollar contract with $24 million guaranteed.

If we draft Geno Smith at #1, he wouldn't get a contract even close to that.

I agree... but if you can't, then I have absolutely no issues with them taking him as a "reach" at #1.

But who's going to give up picks to get to #1 this year? There isn't a dominant player that teams can't do without. Just a bad year to have the top pick both from a pick yourself and a trade the pick standpoint.

Because they will **** it up. Determine the best QB available and take him. **** draft value.

Understandable point, but why would any team trade up? What player in this draft is worth trading up to #1 for?

He's not worth #1 but he is "VALUE" at #6?

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Detroit move up to take the best DE/OLB?

Its possible. There is almost a certitude that one of either Moore, Jones, or Werner will be there when the Lions pick. But if they really, really, really loved one of those guys in particular then they might offer the Chiefs some picks.

It'd be a little like the Chiefs trading up from 5 to 1 to draft Eric Berry though.

NEG Rep & I no curr if your joking

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They'd have to have a big hard-on for Moore. Otherwise they wouldn't need to trade in front of Jax.

There is no such thing as a reach. Either a guy plays for your team the next 10 years or he doesn't. It's irrelevant where he was picked.

trade Hali and Charles for Cousins straight up.


































snickering......:evil:

ok Pioli......thanks for the Tyson Jackson pick!

It is not my money. Draft Chocolate Thunder #1.

I want to draft Bjoern Werner purely because of his accent.

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Players are a crap shoot. Qb is the biggest of all. Geno , tyler, barkley, bennon. All of them could be great or flop. I hope the chiefs evaluate them all to death and take the best prospect.

We can't take that chance. We should settle for a Geno Smith that's still alive.

I posted this an another thread but we should leak that he is a Nazi/weed smoker/something bad so we can draft him in the 2nd.

I hope they take him with #1, and agree that we shouldn't worry about "value". But, I'm not sure many NFL front offices agree. It seems like from what I've seen most still think value is important.

Will we have a GM come April that is willing to "reach" for Geno Smith? I don't know, but I won't get my hopes up.

it's a crappy year to have the #1 pick.

Have to agree here. This pick is too important. Figure out who your guy is and take him. **** Kiper and McShay and their talk of draft value. Can you imagine how bad a franchise would be ran if you just made choices based on draft value?

so? We shouldn't pick a QB in the 1st round?

Bullshit. It is a normal year. Just because last year was exceptional at the QB position does not mean there is not a qb out there who can win for this franchise. Should we be pissed that the Chiefs did not make a move when their were not one, but two outstanding choices out there for qb? Hell yes. But saying that this years crop is complete garbage is a stupid statement as well. There is plenty of talent in this draft.

it's a subpar year for the QB position, kc needs a QB and the question is whether or not a player like Geno is worth the #1 pick. Obviously Andrew Luck was, not so much with any of this year's QBs.

KC has to draft a QB, there's no getting around that. The question is should the #1 pick be Geno or another one of this draft classes QBs? Maybe kc can trade down, pick up a few more picks and still get a good QB? Just say'n.

If I was a lion GM I would draft Geno. Sit him behind Fat face mcgee

Your football knowledge is obviously subpar..

You are dumb even for a donkey

Too risky.

If there's a single QB whom you're targeting, you cannot chance not getting him.

get the **** out

lol, ok losers.

You just make sure of this tomorrow. No more losing to us in Denver to end the season. Although that usually only happens in "win and your in" games.

If anyone can shit their pants in a season finale...it's Denver. I'm not worried this time though.

I hope you guys draft Geno Smith. He has Jamarcus Russell written all over him.

so you are wanting to win this game tomorrow? :)

Knowmo, you little bastard. Banhammer.

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Why am I feeding the troll? Oh well.

Jamarcus Russell and Geno Smith have 1 thing in common: the color of their skin. Other than that, nice try.

Of course not. Just saying you need to make sure you do what you are supposed to. Let us worry about the normal draft class that exists this year and every other when Luck isn't involved.

It's the same goober that compared him to Leftwich. Mults are a no-no.

Go **** yourself Knowmo.

It's not Knowmo, it's that Raiders troll Autumn Wind, AKA October Fart.

I can only hope that the chiefs draft him. He would be a great target for Miller and Dumervil next year.

fair enough.

So, Fart made a mult impersonating Knowmo to bash the Chiefs...Clever girl

What a miserable existence one must lead to be a Raiders fan and create a Broncos fan mult to troll a message board.

Losing our way to the number one overall pick! don't **** this up for us ok!?

ROFL That's our Fart

Pryor going to complete a pass tomorrow?

ok

Too bad for Miami in 08 that there was no QB worth the number one pick available. I bet they are sooo thrilled they didn't "reach" on Matt Ryan.

It's not a bad year for the #1 pick?

That's a pretty dumb thing to say. I doubt there are many teams out there who'd be willing to trade for our #1 pick. It's going to be hard to trade down this season, if that's in their (Chiefs) plans. Personally I think it's going to be a 2009ish type of first round.

Personally I hope Geno tears it up at the combine and ends up being the guy we draft. I didn't like what I saw in today's bowl game. Partially due to the horrible game plan, that coaching staff should all be fired for the way they coached the game. It was bad conditions out but that's not an excuse. It can get really shitty in KC in late November and December. His throws weren't very spot on, and most of them were short throws.

Geno was kicking ass at the beginning of the season...but then kinda tailed off a little at the halfway point. WVU's defense was absolutely terrible this season. So that didn't help him in terms of wins/losses. Either way Geno's better than anything we have now at this point..but is it worth the #1 pick? I guess that depends if we get a good X's and O's coach that can make this offense score some points instead of the stooges we currently have now.

Was Russell Wilson worth a #1 pick? How about Tom Brady?

None of the people claiming to know what a player is worth before he's played in the NFL know what they're talking about.

Well here's what we all do know....if the Chiefs DON'T take a QB w/ the first overall pick....people will be marching to Arrowhead w/ pitchforks.

who is worth the number one pick senator and who wants to trade for it?

We paid $63M for Cassel; he's worth it.

just hearng holthis saying BeJorn

you know if they don't they will be drafting about the same next year with much less core players

With the new rookie salary scale, money doesn't even enter the discussion.

I've said this in other threads. The only way you can say a QB isn't worth the #1 pick this year is if there is someone who is. So if not a QB, who?

Even if you want to claim that no one is worth the #1 pick, someone is still going to be chosen first overall. What's the difference betwween taking a QB 5 picks early, and taking a LT or LB 5 picks early? Expectations?

KC needs a QB. It's not like they can bring in a decent vet for significantly cheaper.

Draft a QB #1 and call me in the morning

If a guy sucks, he's not "worth" the #1 pick

So you just throw darts at the board during the draft then?

That's a pretty ridiculous statement.

But he's worth the 6th if you can trade down, amirite?

Naming a specific QB at this point is premature. They need a housecleaning first and then hire the right GM/HC. Then worry about getting the QB that fits the vision of the HC.

Luck, Griffin, Wilson, Tannehill, it wouldn't have mattered in KC this year with Romeo and Daboll.

I agree with this. Especially if they bring in a guy with a specific offensive system.

sometimes you just have to draft for need, and when you have 1 QB on the roster who was deemed not good enough to replace 2 guys that are not very good... Really, you figure out which QB you think is best, and draft him. No messing around.