Being committed to Cassel is just as stupid as signing orton. Its like wanting to.fall into a.flaming bucket of aids because you thinks its cool.

random.

Pioli is a Pats player hoarder
you can only remove a little at a time & easy him clean
Cassel is next

Exactly the same here. I'll be relegated to watching the Donks play instead but I can always be rootin' against them for my weekly football fix.

I agree that if we got a full season of Orton, we'd see some of the same stuff that drives us crazy about Cassel.

It's like the ball rolls downhill and these stories become more and more grandiose. Look at how people think Trent Green wasn't that good now. Cassel once played about 10 days after an appendectomy. Toughness is not his problem. It's everything else.

Are you that daft? My original quote was referring to why another poster was missing Orton over #7. Neither are a good option for a respectable franchise. But, in this case, with the Chiefs commited to #7, and a laughing stock in the NFL, I merely agreed that Orton was the better option between the two. Spend some time reading the thread before you jump in dumbass...

I do not feel either of the two forementioned QB's are franchise quality. Get over it.

Orton is exactly like Cassle. Except that he reads defenses better, has a better long ball, more accurate and quicker on the release. Other than that they are both the same.

Orton can give your WRs some numbers they can be happy with
& live game practice for a rookie

LMAO

Wait, because of rerun, I want to clarify I agree with your post....I am sure YOU read into my lmao but just want to make sure......:p:p

:p :thumb:

If we fill the two line spots with premier guys (won't happen, but Winston and Myers or the guy from gb) I think Orton could win some big games with the talent we have on board.

Our secondary will be vastly improved. We lose a little going from Carr to Routt, but the upgrade from Sabby to Berry is massive. Our run defense should also improve as our young front seven grows into their roles more and more.

The front seven played as well as anyone down the stretch.

This defense is setting up to be a top 7 unit.

Orton does a good job of distributing the ball around and thats what we need because we have talent everywhere we look. He was effective last year WITH NO RUNNING GAME and a swinging door at right tackle.

I'd like to see him get a chance with a full blown running game that we would have with Charles and Tolbert or Hillis...or Richardson. He displayed a very convincing playaction last year again, WITH NO RUNNING GAME.

That play action would be highly effective if Charles or Tolbert are in the backfield instead of Jones or Battle.

I have no doubt that we could win a playoff game or even two, but I don't think he is a guy that can win shootouts for us or put the team on his back when we need it and carry us when we face elite run defenses in the playoffs.

Having a line that good would have to factor into our chances in those games with him...he could have "all day back there".

Long story short, sign me up for the group that wants "anything but Cassel" for 2012.

We can deal with next year when we get there, but for now I just want to enjoy Chiefs football without #7 embarrassing it.

Orton? Ok
Stanzi? Let's go
Move a 6th for Moore from Miami? No problem

One more snap from Matt Cassel?

**** that.

Can we, as a planet, follow my lead on this, just once and referr to incumbant starter as #7 instead of actually saying his name? He does not deserve to be named, only numbered....Thank you.

Forget about Orton. If he is in Dallas then he's signing there; so is Carr.