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DaKCMan AP 11-17-2012 10:52 PM

Are you all going to freak out
 
when USC beats ND and it's an all-SEC National Championship again?


LMAO

Chiefspants 11-17-2012 10:52 PM

No, just be sadz :(

Hootie 11-17-2012 10:52 PM

No I just pretty much assume that will happen...

The SEC owns football...that's for sure.

Sorter 11-17-2012 10:53 PM

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DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 10:53 PM

USC ****ing blows.

And **** the SEC.

Chiefs Pantalones 11-17-2012 10:53 PM

Barkley is injured so I'm not sure about that.

Coach 11-17-2012 10:54 PM

Eh, not sad, just won't care much to even bother watching it anyways.

Hootie 11-17-2012 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9127258)
Barkley is injured so I'm not sure about that.

that would be hilarious...backup comes in, beats ND...then we draft Barkley anyways

...yikes

Bewbies 11-17-2012 10:54 PM

I'm a big SEC guy, but you shouldn't be in the title game if you don't already own your conference title trophy.

Dr. Johnny Fever 11-17-2012 10:55 PM

Does anyone here.... check that... on earth... think more of themselves?

CaliforniaChief 11-17-2012 10:56 PM

Hey, never doubt the ability of USC backup QB's...

Hootie 11-17-2012 10:56 PM

He's a fan of Florida, yet he cheers for the entire SEC...

I never cheer for the entire AFC West, I cheer against them. Maybe college is different, either way, just seems dirty.

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2012 10:57 PM

If you don't win your conference, you shouldn't be permitted to play for the title.

tk13 11-17-2012 10:57 PM

Just like my brilliant idea for the blackout tomorrow, I mentioned this possibility weeks ago and got laughed at, even by the SEC homers.

Titty Meat 11-17-2012 10:57 PM

Just think all it took to break the current system was an all SEC championship. That's saying something.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127285)
If you don't win your conference, you shouldn't be permitted to play for the title.


Don't confuse him.

His house is filled with so many of his personal flatheads that he actually believes his opinion matters.

Awesome?

Yeah, awesome at blowing kisses to himself in the mirror every night.

Red Brooklyn 11-17-2012 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9127257)
USC ****ing blows.

And **** the SEC.

We'll never agree on LOST. But we'll always agree on this. o:-)

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2012 11:02 PM

Whoever loses the SEC championship will have 2 losses.

If ND loses next week, and Oregon wins the PAC-12, they should get in.

Spott 11-17-2012 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127285)
If you don't win your conference, you shouldn't be permitted to play for the title.

The last 2 Super Bowl Champions didn't win their divisions.

notorious 11-17-2012 11:04 PM

SEC (Bama) will be king until one of the pussy-ass weak conferences knock them off.


Reality sucks, but it is obvious.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127315)
Whoever loses the SEC championship will have 2 losses.

If ND loses next week, and Oregon wins the PAC-12, they should get in.

UCLA will beat Oregon.

Stanford and UCLA will prove that Chip Kelly's offense isn't NFL ready.

tk13 11-17-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127315)
Whoever loses the SEC championship will have 2 losses.

If ND loses next week, and Oregon wins the PAC-12, they should get in.

Florida will only have 1 loss if they beat Florida State next week.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 9127316)
The last 2 Super Bowl Champions didn't win their divisions.

This doesn't involved a playoff.

Yet.

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2012 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 9127316)
The last 2 Super Bowl Champions didn't win their divisions.

:spock:

Yeah , that's the same thing.

KC_Connection 11-17-2012 11:07 PM

That would be awesome and quite deserving. Would surprise me to see USC beat anybody as good as ND right now, though.

Titty Meat 11-17-2012 11:07 PM

It would be pretty funny if Oregon wins next week but Stanford wins too thus winning the Pac 12 making the title game and Oregon still makes the NC.

KC_Connection 11-17-2012 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9127257)
USC ****ing blows.

And **** the SEC.

I did tell you they were mediocre this year. Can't be losing to UCLA like that.

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9127334)
That would be awesome and quite deserving. Would surprise me to see USC beat anybody as good as ND right now, though.

Over

Rated

teedubya 11-17-2012 11:09 PM

DaSECMan AP.... isn't awesome, instead, he's rather assholeish.

tk13 11-17-2012 11:10 PM

You knew this was coming. The SEC fans spent the whole last week hearing how overrated they were from the Big XII Can't Play A Lick of Defense Conference fans.

KC_Connection 11-17-2012 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127339)
Over

Rated

Who? USC or Notre Dame? Or both (which you could easily argue)?

Nightfyre 11-17-2012 11:10 PM

If Florida State knocks off Florida, how ****ed up is the BCS?

RealSNR 11-17-2012 11:10 PM

KState would only have one loss too!!!!!!111

KC_Connection 11-17-2012 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9127346)
You knew this was coming. The SEC fans spent the whole last week hearing how overrated they were from the Big XII Can't Play A Lick of Defense Conference fans.

It was a hilarious week. The world is back in order now.

RunKC 11-17-2012 11:12 PM

I'm going to freak out and go on a killing spree when Clark keeps Pioli and Pioli drafts Mike Glennon over Geno Smith.

notorious 11-17-2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9127349)
KState would only have one loss too!!!!!!111

LMAO


I think that ship has sailed and sunk.

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2012 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9127347)
Who? USC or Notre Dame? Or both (which you could easily argue)?

ND

tk13 11-17-2012 11:14 PM

I guess I should've posted this in this thread, but ESPN's BCS guru thinks Oregon falls to 5, K-State falls out of the top 5, and Alabama/Georgia/Florida take up the 2-4 spots in the BCS.

DaKCMan AP 11-17-2012 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9127370)
I guess I should've posted this in this thread, but ESPN's BCS guru thinks Oregon falls to 5, K-State falls out of the top 5, and Alabama/Georgia/Florida take up the 2-4 spots in the BCS.

So basically the SEC Champ winner is guaranteed a spot & ND is guaranteed a spot with a W.

If ND loses & Florida beats FSU, they're in.

If ND loses, FSU beats Florida, and Oregon wins out - they're in.

If ND loses, FSU beats Florida, Oregon loses - TAMU/LSU are in.

tk13 11-17-2012 11:22 PM

Now he's saying on ESPN he thinks K-State at 5... but it's hard to say. Everything after 3 could be up in the air. Thinks there could be a ton of voter disagreement about how to rank the non-SEC teams, so it's hard to predict.

KC_Connection 11-17-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9127380)
So basically the SEC Champ winner is guaranteed a spot & ND is guaranteed a spot with a W.

If ND loses & Florida beats FSU, they're in.

If ND loses, FSU beats Florida, and Oregon wins out - they're in.

If ND loses, FSU beats Florida, Oregon loses - TAMU/LSU are in.

Wow, I want to see that third option. Just a bit unlikely, though.

notorious 11-17-2012 11:25 PM

Just give me a good game.


That's all I care about now.

KC_Connection 11-17-2012 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127364)
ND

True.

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9127415)
Just give me a good game.


That's all I care about now.

I couldn't care less, now.

I guess it's nice that the SEC will likely back into the BCS game, but it won't make it any better.

Last year's game was the worst ever.

notorious 11-17-2012 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9127455)

Last year's game was the worst ever.

Ya, it sucked.

ChiefsCountry 11-17-2012 11:43 PM

Notre Dame and Bama would be a ratings boom.
Posted via Mobile Device

DaneMcCloud 11-17-2012 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9127471)
Notre Dame and Bama would be a ratings boom.
Posted via Mobile Device

It would undoubtedly provide the largest BCS viewing audience of all time.

Inbreds versus Molesters.

Ratings king.

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2012 11:55 PM

The BCS will be proven to be a ****ing joke if Florida gets in.

Winning your conference should be required.

BigMeatballDave 11-17-2012 11:57 PM

No wonder DA likes the BCS. You can back into the NC game in its current format.

tk13 11-17-2012 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127492)
The BCS will be proven to be a ****ing joke if Florida gets in.

Winning your conference should be required.

The funny thing is if ND loses and it's a bunch of 1-loss teams... I think you could argue Florida has the best resume of any of them, even though they are probably not one of the two best teams.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9127502)
The funny thing is if ND loses and it's a bunch of 1-loss teams... I think you could argue Florida has the best resume of any of them, even though they are probably not one of the two best teams.

It makes absolutely no sense to me to be allowed to play for the NC without winning your conference.

I realize ND is not in a conference, so making it an official NCAA rule would not fly.

ND needs to stop being a ****ing douche and join a conference.

DaKCMan AP 11-18-2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9127502)
The funny thing is if ND loses and it's a bunch of 1-loss teams... I think you could argue Florida has the best resume of any of them, even though they are probably not one of the two best teams.

If Florida beats Florida State they'd have an 11-1 record while playing the #1 schedule, three wins over top-10 teams, and the only loss to another top-10 team at a neutral site.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9127323)
UCLA will beat Oregon.

I don't think so.

DaKCMan AP 11-18-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127510)
It makes absolutely no sense to me to be allowed to play for the NC without winning your conference.

I realize ND is not in a conference, so making it an official NCAA rule would not fly.

ND needs to stop being a ****ing douche and join a conference.

It's a pretty simple concept. It depends whether you think the NC should be played by the best 2 teams in the country or whether it should be the best two teams from different conferences. IMO, the best 2 teams, regardless of conference, should play for the NC.

When 6 of the top-10 teams are from a single conference and no other conference has more than 1 top-10 team, it's a pretty weak statement to claim "WELL WELL WELL YOU DIDN'T EVEN WIN YOUR CONFERENCE! DURRRRRRRR" when the other conferences are MUCH easier to win.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 12:12 AM

Imagine if Ohio St. was not on probation.

A TON here would HATE that NC game,

LMAO

As much as I dislike ND, I hope they best USC so Florida doesn't get in.

Plus, it'll be fun to watch Alabama push NDs shit in.

chiefzilla1501 11-18-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9127520)
It's a pretty simple concept. It depends whether you think the NC should be played by the best 2 teams in the country or whether it should be the best two teams from different conferences. IMO, the best 2 teams, regardless of conference, should play for the NC.

When 6 of the top-10 teams are from a single conference and no other conference has more than 1 top-10 team, it's a pretty weak statement to claim "WELL WELL WELL YOU DIDN'T EVEN WIN YOUR CONFERENCE! DURRRRRRRR" when the other conferences are MUCH easier to win.

This is the same dumb logic that would suggest that the AFC doesn't deserve to be in the Super Bowl because they are playing inferior to the NFC this year. Or the same dumb logic that would suggest that the entire decade from 2000-2010, the Yankees should have played the Red Sox in the world series every year.

The best two teams don't always play in championship games. In college football, there are too few games, and half of those games or more are against shitty competition. The ONLY way to compare two teams is if they are in the same conference. For a sport that already relies too heavily on opinion, why in the world would you take away the only tiebreaker that's truly objective?

mr. tegu 11-18-2012 12:20 AM

In a few years we will finally see a real champion.

Besides I don't think there will be two SEC teams if ND loses. That would mean a team that didn't even finish first in their division plays in the title game. Since the conference championship loser will have two losses they are out, then you want to tell me the third or fourth place team in the SEC will be rewarded with a title game? I don't see it.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9127542)
In a few years we will finally see a real champion.

Besides I don't think there will be two SEC teams if ND loses. That would mean a team that didn't even finish first in their division plays in the title game. Since the conference championship loser will have two losses they are out, then you want to tell me the third or fourth place team in the SEC will be rewarded with a title game? I don't see it.

Nope. Florida can still get in. And they won't even be playing for the SEC title.

BCS = ****ing travesty

KC_Connection 11-18-2012 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127527)
Imagine if Ohio St. was not on probation.

A TON here would HATE that NC game,

LMAO

As much as I dislike ND, I hope they best USC so Florida doesn't get in.

Plus, it'll be fun to watch Alabama push NDs shit in.

Yes, yes it will. I can see a ton of media hype and then just a blowout.

TimeForWasp 11-18-2012 12:24 AM

;)

mr. tegu 11-18-2012 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127544)
Nope. Florida can still get in. And they won't even be playing for the SEC title.

BCS = ****ing travesty

I think after last years pathetic game it won't happen again.

KC_Connection 11-18-2012 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9127553)
I think after last years pathetic game it won't happen again.

All it will take is a ND loss at this point. Florida is way too good in the computer rankings for it not to.

DaKCMan AP 11-18-2012 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9127538)
This is the same dumb logic that would suggest that the AFC doesn't deserve to be in the Super Bowl because they are playing inferior to the NFC this year. Or the same dumb logic that would suggest that the entire decade from 2000-2010, the Yankees should have played the Red Sox in the world series every year.

The best two teams don't always play in championship games. In college football, there are too few games, and half of those games or more are against shitty competition. The ONLY way to compare two teams is if they are in the same conference. For a sport that already relies too heavily on opinion, why in the world would you take away the only tiebreaker that's truly objective?

It's not an objective tiebreaker when you compare conferences, strength of schedule, quality wins, and compare loss(es).

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9127542)
That would mean a team that didn't even finish first in their division plays in the title game.

That's what happened last year.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 9127556)
All it will take is a ND loss at this point. Florida is way too good in the computer rankings for it not to.

Just like last time, I won't watch.

2 schools from the same conference playing for the NC should not even be possible.

notorious 11-18-2012 12:38 AM

Don't hate the system, hate the two teams that shit all over themselves tonight.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 12:40 AM

The simple fact that Florida almost losing to Missouri should negate them.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9127561)
Don't hate the system, hate the two teams that shit all over themselves tonight.

No. The system is ****ed.

mr. tegu 11-18-2012 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9127558)
That's what happened last year.

Exactly. That's why I don't see it happening again since that game was so atrocious.

notorious 11-18-2012 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9127563)
No. The system is ****ed.

It is, but what's new?

They have taken a step in the right direction next year.

Simply Red 11-18-2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9127349)
KState would only have one loss too!!!!!!111

http://i.imgur.com/0LpLa.jpg

chiefzilla1501 11-18-2012 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9127558)
It's not an objective tiebreaker when you compare conferences, strength of schedule, quality wins, and compare loss(es).



That's what happened last year.

Conference champions are objective tiebreakers. They either are decided by a championship game to decide the winner, or they are based on

Even if you have an opinion about whether Alabama is better than Notre Dame, you will never know because they don't play the same schedule. The SEC championship game on the other hand... you basically have a National League and an American league, and they battle it out in the SEC championship game to determine the conference winner. It is a fair qualifier and if you don't pass that qualifier, it is outrageous that you'd be considered for a national championship game.

DaKCMan AP 11-18-2012 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9127884)
Conference champions are objective tiebreakers. They either are decided by a championship game to decide the winner, or they are based on

Even if you have an opinion about whether Alabama is better than Notre Dame, you will never know because they don't play the same schedule. The SEC championship game on the other hand... you basically have a National League and an American league, and they battle it out in the SEC championship game to determine the conference winner. It is a fair qualifier and if you don't pass that qualifier, it is outrageous that you'd be considered for a national championship game.

Within a conference, it's objective. When you then compare winning your conferences vs not winning your conference between teams from different conferences - it's no longer an objective measure for the reasons you state in your previous post.

BlackHelicopters 11-18-2012 09:33 AM

The system is easy. Win and in. KState getting blown out is what we should dislike. ND and Bama would be the best game. I hate saying it.

BigRedChief 11-18-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks (Post 9127251)
No I just pretty much assume that will happen...

The SEC owns football...that's for sure.

Since I've never had a college football team, I'm a free agent. Who should I root for?

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9127902)
The system is easy. Win and in. KState getting blown out is what we should dislike. ND and Bama would be the best game. I hate saying it.

It'll be a great to watch Alabama dismantle ND, yes.

DaKCMan AP 11-18-2012 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9127909)
Since I've never had a college football team, I'm a free agent. Who should I root for?

Your a Chiefs fan, and used to losing & disappointment, so living in the Tampa area you should probably cheer for USF. :D

BigRedChief 11-18-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9127916)
Your a Chiefs fan, and used to losing & disappointment, so living in the Tampa area you should probably cheer for USF. :D

:banghead:

Mr. Laz 11-18-2012 11:10 AM

I think i would rather have all SEC again than have Notre Dame in the NC game.

BigMeatballDave 11-18-2012 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 9128117)
I think i would rather have all SEC again than have Notre Dame in the NC game.

No way.

I want to see the Tide push the fighting bundle of stickss shit in.

L.A. Chieffan 11-18-2012 11:14 AM

I never thought I'd say this, but I almost feel bad for Ohio state


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