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petegz28 12-23-2014 08:41 AM

Is it time to go back to the 4-3?
 
With Hali coming to the end of his career along with DJ, if he comes back, DeVito is getting up there as well, isn't he(?), we seem to be losing the players we need to run a 3-4.

Can Dee Ford play DE in a 4-3?
Can Houston move to a 4-3 OLB ala Von Douche?
Poe on the inside of a 4-3 could be awesome, yes?


What say you all???

FTR, I prefer the 3-4 if you have the people who can play in it. But I don't think we do.

lcarus 12-23-2014 08:44 AM

Dee Ford played 4-3 DE in college? I dont watch a lot of college so im probably wrong

petegz28 12-23-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 11213963)
Dee Ford played 4-3 DE in college? I dont watch a lot of college so im probably wrong

I'm not sure. I don't watch much college FB outside of MU.

DaKCMan AP 12-23-2014 08:50 AM

Auburn ran a 4-2-5 while Dee Ford was there.

ILChief 12-23-2014 09:00 AM

Our defense hasn't allowed 30 points or 300 yards this year and has faced manning twice, Brady, Wilson, rivers, and Roethlisberger playing without all pros Derrick Johnson, Eric Berry, and a solid if unspectacular starter in DeVito. This in a league that gives every possible advantage to the offense

Makes perfect sense to blow it up and start over

Sandy Vagina 12-23-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 11213957)
With Hali coming to the end of his career along with DJ, if he comes back, DeVito is getting up there as well, isn't he(?), we seem to be losing the players we need to run a 3-4.

Can Dee Ford play DE in a 4-3?
Can Houston move to a 4-3 OLB ala Von Douche?
Poe on the inside of a 4-3 could be awesome, yes?


What say you all???

FTR, I prefer the 3-4 if you have the people who can play in it. But I don't think we do.

Best bet is for a 4-3 Under with Houston playing as the SLB. He can blitz often from that spot.

SLB: Justin Houston (TAG), Frank Zombo (820,000)
MLB: Derrick Johnson (5,250,000), Joe Mays (4,000,000)
WLB: James-Michael Johnson (660,000) vs mid-rd draft pick

LDE: Allen Bailey (3,250,000), Mike Catapano (610,781)
LDT: Vance Walker (3,750,000 ), Jaye Howard (660,000)
RDT: Dontari Poe (3,601,822), Nick Williams (510,000 )
RDE: Dee Ford (1,854,250) , Josh Martin (660,000)

This would bring a lot of pass rush, giving Poe and Ford lots of 1 vs 1 matchups.

Dunerdr 12-23-2014 09:05 AM

Our defense has been better than I remember it being in my lifetime. But the 4-3 is supposedly cheaper. Unfortunately we have a premiere 3-4 line backer and nt. I think we'd somewhat hurt Houston's production while probably making Poe mor of a suh type force on the line. So idk.

Red Dawg 12-23-2014 09:08 AM

Defense needs to stay the same. It's working for the most part. DJ will help alot with the run defense.

ILChief 12-23-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 11213999)
Defense needs to stay the same. It's working for the most part. DJ will help alot with the run defense.

Run defense has looked a lot better with mays replacing JMJ

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-23-2014 09:10 AM

Defense would get a lot more praise if they could stumble into a turnover every once in awhile.

Sandy Vagina 12-23-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 11214004)
Defense would get a lot more praise if they could stumble into a turnover every once in awhile.

Truth. Being DEAD LAST in team takeaways at a pathetic 10 is ugly. Texans lead the league with over 3 times as many.

Dunerdr 12-23-2014 09:16 AM

Imagine where this d would bewith last years takeaways and scoring and this years yardage and red zone ability.

ChiefGator 12-23-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 11213996)
But the 4-3 is supposedly cheaper.

Not to say it might not be now, but the 3-4 was actually considered cheaper and easier to find players. It gave "tweeners" a good spot and allowed teams to find gems later in the draft. However, there are quite a few teams playing the 3-4 now, so that is no longer true most likely.

ChiefGator 12-23-2014 09:18 AM

Oh yeah.. and don't change it. We had some pretty big injuries and really just need a couple defensive backs to make the defense work and be quite good.

Imon Yourside 12-23-2014 09:19 AM

Needing a QB doesn't necessitate needing a new Defense.


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