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Sagarin NFL Ratings: Chiefs #8 (#32 SOS) (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=277317)

Wouldn't the Chiefs be up for Cleveland after the steamer they put on our chest last year?

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10072975)

This doesn't go against the assertion that the Chiefs have played mostly a docket of shitty teams thus far, but somebody should do the math of the SOS of undefeated teams in the NFL. Say, for 5-0 teams historically. As a 5-0 team, that means you've dealt a loss to each team on your schedule. Naturally, that will lower the overall record of your opponents. Because you've been handing them losses.

Also, three of the under .500 teams the Chiefs have faced (Cowboys, Eagles, Giants) have also played the Broncos, another 5-0 team. There's another 3 losses. Those three teams, sure, are kinda poopy and smelly, but it doesn't help a poopy and smelly team to have had to face TWO perfect teams through the first 5 weeks of the season.

I'm willing to bet that a good portion of 5-0 teams in NFL history had low strengths of schedule. That's kinda how it works out, mathematically.

I was thinking about this the other day, specifically the bolded part.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10072985)

It bears mentioning that the Cowboys and Eagles are 2-1 against non-Chiefs/Broncos teams.

The Giants are 0-4. The Jags are also 0fers.

The Titans are 3-1 against non-Chiefs teams.

My contention is that we've beaten three real good teams, and two shitrockets.

Shitrockets that we've beaten by at least three touchdowns each, by the way. This team is for real.

This idea also has merit..

Until you remember that the Eagles and Cowboys both have wins over the shitrocket Giants. The Boys only other win this season came against a slightly less shitty shitrocket in the Rams and the Eagles only other win came against the shitstain Redskins.

You can only play your schedule though. Before the season, everyone thought we were going to be facing a murderer's row so **** 'em now.

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10072975)

+1. Great post.

Playing Jacksonville will certainly hurt your SOS but I really think Dallas and Tenn are pretty good. Certainly the Giants are underachieving, they will probably go 4-12 but they are as good as an 8-8 team. Philly should end up about 8-8 as well.

What I'm happy about is our UPCOMING schedule. There's no reason this team shouldn't win 3 of 4. Three straight home games coming up against Oakland, I mean it's Oakland. An overachieving Cleveland team, and then vs Matt "I throw at least 1 pick six a game" Schaub. I can't imagine Schaub having to face this defense, it should be pretty entertaining. Then @ a mediocre Buffalo team.

How epic would it be for the 9-0 Chiefs going against a 9-0 Dungver game? It would be the talk of the land. Alot to ask, but the defense is playing so well it's possible.

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10072846)

Its such a bad schedule due to how terrible the NFC EAst is, and thats partly due to how the AFC West has improved as a whole by a lot and destroyed the NFC EAst. Plus Jacksonville..

This

I'd disagree strongly the giants are an 8-8 quality team. First team ever I heard to start with 6 straight losses all with 25 or more allowed and 3 or more turnovers per. That's a bad team

As Bob Dole pointed out earlier in the week, 20% of our opponent's losses are to us.

SOS after 5 games should not be weighted much in any analysis.

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10073093)

Losing to the Browns would be embarrasing. I still say Houston concerns me most. They are out gaining their opponents by like over 100 yards a game I heard.

That's the one I'd pick.

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 10074089)

As Bob Dole pointed out earlier in the week, 20% of our opponent's losses are to us.

SOS after 5 games should not be weighted much in any analysis.

It's not preventing the Donkeys from being 1 in Sagarin though

Luckily this is not college football, so who gives a **** what a computer thinks.

i think we lose against BUF. our oline will get ass****ed again.

Its got to be more than just SOS. Atlanta (#17) is 1-4 with their only victory against #30. SOS is #12. Texans have a better record at 2-3 and their SOS is #2 but they're ranked 21st. Jets have a winning record, #13 SOS and they're 25th. :spock::rolleyes::shrug:

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10072990)

We lose one of those games before the bye and this place melts down lol

It will be right before the bye so we have to read about it for 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10072983)

If we go into the bye 9-0, I'd say we did our job exactly as it needed to be done.

Good Gawd... i'm not even daring to go that far, wont even think about it because its too much to ask.

If we can get to 6-0 i'd be totally thrilled, its almost a mathematical certainty we go to the playoffs after that, barring some supremely spiteful act of God.

Just kill these faders at home and i can deal with the rest, there are certainly going to be some losses in the future but they'll end up being good for the team.

Kinda like the old saying "you learn more from losing than winning", the losses will help keep them angry and sharp.

9-0 isn't squat. If it happens, it happens. Hell, I remember 13-3 vividly and what really mattered is that the Chiefs lost when they should have won. Many "pro" predictors would have the Chiefs at anywhere from 1-4 to 3-2 before the season started, and felt they were generous with that.

This team doesn't seem to be like that at all. They really don't seem to care what anybody thinks beside Reid. They actually try and win the game for a full hour as if their paychecks depended upon it. Lots of work-horse type attitude that really shows in the 4th when philosophy and some guts combine.

IMHO