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Prison Bitch 10-15-2013 09:51 AM

Moves up to #6 today. But SOS is still #32, barely, despite Denver playing Jax. (We stay behind Denver because Oakland is now #30 in Sagarin)

Direckshun 10-15-2013 10:21 AM

The records of our opponents so far this year, minus all Chiefs/Broncos games:

Jags: 0-4

Cowboys: 3-1

Eagles: 3-1

Giants: 0-4

Titans: 3-2

Raiders: 2-2

I maintain my opinion from earlier in this thread: We have beaten two shitrockets, one decent team, and three good teams.

FloridaMan88 10-15-2013 11:47 AM

This isn't the BCS, who cares about SOS.

REDHOTGTO 10-15-2013 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10072985)
It bears mentioning that the Cowboys and Eagles are 2-1 against non-Chiefs/Broncos teams.

The Giants are 0-4. The Jags are also 0fers.

The Titans are 3-1 against non-Chiefs teams.

My contention is that we've beaten three real good teams, and two shitrockets.

Shitrockets that we've beaten by at least three touchdowns each, by the way. This team is for real.

exactly this ^

Bearcat 10-15-2013 12:25 PM

Well, if you're taking out the Chiefs and Broncos, you should probably look at their wins, too...

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10088531)
The records of our opponents so far this year, minus all Chiefs/Broncos games:

Jags: 0-4

Cowboys: 3-1
-- Giants, Redskins, Rams -- 4-13 and the Rams have 3 of those wins

Eagles: 3-1
-- Redskins, Giants, Bucs -- 1-15

Giants: 0-4

Titans: 3-2
-- Steelers, Chargers, Jets -- 7-10

Raiders: 2-2
-- Jaguars, Chargers -- 3-9

I maintain my opinion from earlier in this thread: We have beaten two shitrockets, one decent team, and three good teams.

Conclusion: What a crapfest. Kind of the problem with comparing schedules though... there are so many shitty-mediocre teams, there just aren't many tests in the regular season. Unfortunately, the previous big tests haven't really proven themselves to be contenders, but fortunately they'll have at least a couple of huge tests along with maybe 2-3 others.

Coach 10-15-2013 12:38 PM

I have to say, the Giants does not look like a 0-4 team. They are just snake bitten so hard, it's silly.

Hoover 10-15-2013 12:58 PM

I hate the SOS argument. I mean there are two 6-0 teams in our division basically playing the same teams.

Prison Bitch 10-15-2013 01:39 PM

The SOS is important because it explains why we're only #6 overall despite having the record we have. It won't improve either with our next two dog opponents. I think our fans who are still a bit conflicted on how good we really are have a fair point to make.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10088983)
The SOS is important because it explains why we're only #6 overall despite having the record we have. It won't improve either with our next two dog opponents. I think our fans who are still a bit conflicted on how good we really are have a fair point to make.

Yep.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...eat-to-broncos

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Take a look at whom the Chiefs have beaten and you reflexively temper the long-term expectations. The Jaguars, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Titans and Raiders are a combined 11-25. Yes, we know, six of those 25 losses were at the hands of the Chiefs. Discounting those Kansas City wins, the collective record is 11-19 and the winning percentage rises from .306 to .367. That's still awful.

Coach 10-15-2013 01:53 PM

On the other hand, it's not like the Chiefs randomly selected the Jaguars. Regardless of the SOS or not, the bad teams like Jacksonville and I guess I'll throw in the Giants because of their record, they dominated those teams, although the Giant game took a little while to get it going.

Still, KC is beating the bad teams they should be beating, and beating average teams. I should also point out that beating teams on the road is no easy task, and KC is 3-0 in that regard.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10089031)
On the other hand, it's not like the Chiefs randomly selected the Jaguars. Regardless of the SOS or not, the bad teams like Jacksonville and I guess I'll throw in the Giants because of their record, they dominated those teams, although the Giant game took a little while to get it going.

Still, KC is beating the bad teams they should be beating, and beating average teams. I should also point out that beating teams on the road is no easy task, and KC is 3-0 in that regard.

No doubt. You can only play who you're scheduled to play.

But on the flip side of that, surely you can understand why the national media, and even fans of the team aren't exactly sure how good they are just yet.

They've let two bad teams hang around until the 4th quarter, and almost let a backup QB beat them.

And speaking of backup QB's, this is shaping up to look a lot like 2010, when we kept facing backup QB's. Looks like we're going to get a backup 5 weeks in a row. Yes, we're taking advantage of it, but it doesn't give a clear picture of what to expect when we actually play a team with a real offense.

Frazod 10-15-2013 02:05 PM

Funny how Denver's opponents have an equally shitty record, yet nobody seems to hold that against them.

I guess even Sagarin's computer is set to ballwash Manning. :shake:

Imon Yourside 10-15-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 10089073)
Funny how Denver's opponents have an equally shitty record, yet nobody seems to hold that against them.

I guess even Sagarin's computer is set to ballwash Manning. :shake:

LMAO ya

Prison Bitch 10-15-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10089052)
And speaking of backup QB's, this is shaping up to look a lot like 2010, when we kept facing backup QB's. Looks like we're going to get a backup 5 weeks in a row. Yes, we're taking advantage of it, but it doesn't give a clear picture of what to expect when we actually play a team with a real offense.

Please don't say that. Even though I'm afraid you might be right.

OnTheWarpath15 10-15-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 10089073)
Funny how Denver's opponents have an equally shitty record, yet nobody seems to hold that against them.

I guess even Sagarin's computer is set to ballwash Manning. :shake:

If we were scoring 45 points a game, I don't think anyone would have doubts about us either.


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