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R8RFAN 07-07-2013 01:32 PM

What if TSHTF
 
First off I am not a prepper except for guns and ammo, with that said.. Also, I am bored with talking about the George Zimmerman Trial

What if The Shit Hit The Fan

Banks were closed and money becomes worthless.
Stores were looted and the shelves were empty.
Electric,Water and Sewer services gone..
Gas rationed heavily, roads probably not fit for movement..

What happens next? How do people react? Whats the best course of action..
What would you do? What happens when people start getting hungry?

Jerm 07-07-2013 01:33 PM

90% of the population would be done for if the infrastructure fell...

LiveSteam 07-07-2013 01:34 PM

Shoot everything that moves

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9796842)
Shoot everything that moves

For food?

LiveSteam 07-07-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796843)
For food?

Yes that to.

mlyonsd 07-07-2013 01:36 PM

I'd move to Brazil and become a soccer ref.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9796844)
Yes that to.

Now if you try to just stand guard at your house with a weapon, that probably won't work, a lit torch on the roof and you will be coming out, then what?

Rasputin 07-07-2013 01:38 PM

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J Diddy 07-07-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9796847)
I'd move to Brazil and become a soccer ref.

You have to be out of your head.

Bugeater 07-07-2013 01:38 PM

I have a can of SPAMŽ hidden in the cupboard just in case of an emergency like this.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9796853)
I have a can of SPAMŽ hidden in the cupboard just in case of an emergency like this.

:D:D:D

J Diddy 07-07-2013 01:39 PM

I'd get me a haarp and use the rings to rain terror from above.

LiveSteam 07-07-2013 01:41 PM

Everyone should keep at least a months worth of water & food. Past that IMO its anybody guess as to what you will need to survive.

TambaBerry 07-07-2013 01:43 PM

Nothing you can really do, accept death cause it wouldn't be to far away.

mlyonsd 07-07-2013 01:43 PM

We need parameters.

How long is the electricity out?

LiveSteam 07-07-2013 01:45 PM

instant mash potatoes
powdered milk
rice
beans
anything canned
seeds
ammo
guns
Are all your friends

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 9796862)
We need parameters.

How long is the electricity out?

Atleast 4 days now with no place to purchase food, money is worthless..

I think withing 2 weeks gangs would form going from house to house pilfering and looting... If you are not in the gang, you get shot or shot at

teedubya 07-07-2013 01:50 PM

Get the **** out of the city, when TSHTF.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 9796868)
Get the **** out of the city, when TSHTF.

Probably the best idea... Gun,Tent, Ammo , Water and food

cabletech94 07-07-2013 01:57 PM

read the walking dead. take notes. this is your scenario.


minus the zombies, of course.

Old Dog 07-07-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796849)
Now if you try to just stand guard at your house with a weapon, that probably won't work, a lit torch on the roof and you will be coming out, then what?

I suspect that my guns will shoot further than you can throw your torch. It isn't like I'm the only one with a trigger and can only watch one side of the place at a time.
Edit: already out of the city, so not an issue with that.

notorious 07-07-2013 02:01 PM

As long as we didn't get hit by nuclear fallout, people like me and Beuhler will be fine.



We have an abundance of food and water. The city folk that would try to come and take wouldn't stand a chance.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796878)
I suspect that my guns will shoot further than you can throw your torch. It isn't like I'm the only one with a trigger and can only watch one side of the place at a time.
Edit: already out of the city, so not an issue with that.

Man with a compound bow and a flaming arrow ?

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796886)
Man with a compound bow and a flaming arrow ?

couple of hundred yards at most with any accuracy...I can cover that.

Mr. Laz 07-07-2013 02:05 PM

it would get ugly pretty quick

read somewhere that food etc is on such a quick turnaround now that grocery stores and everything else would be empty in a week.

If the tap water stops running it will get violent fast ... people are twisted.

Mr. Laz 07-07-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796892)
couple of hundred yards at most with any accuracy...I can cover that.

can you cover it 24/7?

notorious 07-07-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9796893)
it would get ugly pretty quick

read somewhere that food etc is on such a quick turnaround now that grocery stores and everything else would be empty in a week.

If the tap water stops running it will get violent fast ... people are twisted.

I can't imagine what it would be like in the city. :eek:

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9796896)
can you cover it 24/7?

I suspect with myself, the Mrs (who would have to wake someone up to actually pull a trigger), the kids and their spouses and two teen aged grandchildren (one of which would also not be able to hit shit accurately at that range), it could be done for at least a while.
That would of course mean their homes would be "left to the wolves" but would think that would be the way to go in that situation.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796904)
I suspect with myself, the Mrs (who would have to wake someone up to actually pull a trigger), the kids and their spouses and two teen aged grandchildren (one of which would also not be able to hit shit accurately at that range), it could be done for at least a while.
That would of course mean their homes would be "left to the wolves" but would think that would be the way to go in that situation.

The attacker is not going to walk out in front of your house to shoot a flaming arrow into your roof... he is going to hide behind something and light it up... come out from cover and shoot then he will be back in cover before you can shoot him unless you get real lucky.

notorious 07-07-2013 02:14 PM

Hell, bomb shelters aren't safe if someone discovers it.

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:14 PM

Where my place is situated? Good luck with that.

Edit: was in response to R8ers post in #29

Mr. Laz 07-07-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9796898)
I can't imagine what it would be like in the city. :eek:

it would get nasty fast

especially in big cities where there is nothing but infrastructure and urban areas

what will they do when the water stops and the grocery stores are empty?


if there isn't any timeline for recovery it would be full mob mentality in 2 weeks

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796910)
Where my place is situated? Good luck with that.



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Tombstone RJ 07-07-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796838)
First off I am not a prepper except for guns and ammo, with that said.. Also, I am bored with talking about the George Zimmerman Trial

What if The Shit Hit The Fan

Banks were closed and money becomes worthless.
Stores were looted and the shelves were empty.
Electric,Water and Sewer services gone..
Gas rationed heavily, roads probably not fit for movement..

What happens next? How do people react? Whats the best course of action..
What would you do? What happens when people start getting hungry?

your best bet is to gather with a group of people, form some kind of a plan and then try to survive this way. You can't do it all on your own, you have to have help. People working together can overcome a lot of crap. I think many people will be surprised by how much they have in common with each other when TSHTF.

That guy you can't stand because he never mows his damn lawn, that guy might just turn out to be your bff WTSHTF. Blacks, whites, latinos, I think lots of peeps will come together to protect their interests against the bad guys who just want to loot, pillage, rape, steal and cause chaos.

jd1020 07-07-2013 02:18 PM

But will people still be able to text? That's all that matters.

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:18 PM

RE: your video....you notice he had things to hide behind? Here, notsomuch

Bwana 07-07-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9796861)
Nothing you can really do, accept death cause it wouldn't be to far away.

:spock:

Yeah no.

notorious 07-07-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9796911)
it would get nasty fast

especially in big cities where there is nothing but infrastructure and urban areas

what will they do when the water stops and the grocery stores are empty?


if there isn't any timeline for recovery it would be full mob mentality in 2 weeks

It would get very ugly, but nobody could survive in town. The survivors will need to spread out to find food and water.

City folk, in the country.............

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 9796920)
:spock:

Yeah no.

I swear, some of these sonsabitches wouldn't last 12 minutes without someone to take care of them.

EDIT: I'm not saying every poster in this thread, but there seem to be a few.

Bwana 07-07-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796922)
I swear, some of these sonsabitches wouldn't last 12 minutes without someone to take care of them.

No shit.

jd1020 07-07-2013 02:24 PM

If this happened I wouldn't have to spend $60 to play DayZ.

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:25 PM

On the bright side, most of them will be the ones that don't last 48 hours (let alone a week) and then if/when things start to normalize we'll have some of the sewage out of the gene pool.

notorious 07-07-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9796924)
If this happened I wouldn't have to spend $60 to play DayZ.

When I get killed for the 11tybillionth time on DayZ I wonder if a real apocalypse might be easier than that game.

Tombstone RJ 07-07-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9796921)
It would get very ugly, but nobody could survive in town. The survivors will need to spread out to find food and water.

City folk, in the country.............

I think people fleeing the city will be the biggest problem due to the fact that they are fleeing because big cities will be chaos. It will be an excuse for the bad guys to go crazy and reek havoc, causing all the law abiding folks to flee. The question is, will these fleeing folks help or hurt others who are spread out and in the smaller communities.

I have no doubt the smaller communities can survive. I think the citizens of these smaller communities will come together and form a collective. It's the spill off from the big cities that will pose the greatest danger.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796918)
RE: your video....you notice he had things to hide behind? Here, notsomuch

That can be an advantage or a disadvantage ... Hell a flaming remote controlled airplane can do the same thing... Sounds dumb but a hungry man would be desperate

notorious 07-07-2013 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796928)
On the bright side, most of them will be the ones that don't last 48 hours (let alone a week) and then if/when things start to normalize we'll have some of the sewage out of the gene pool.

I was thinking this, but I wasn't going to say it. LMAO

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796932)
That can be an advantage or a disadvantage ... Hell a flaming remote controlled airplane can do the same thing... Sounds dumb but a hungry man would be desperate

Sounds REALLY dumb. Bullets work on remote controlled vehicles too.

lewdog 07-07-2013 02:29 PM

If texting still works I'll just ask R8ers what I should do. Oh, and to share some of his secret family SPAM recipes.

TambaBerry 07-07-2013 02:29 PM

lol at people thinking they would survive this situation. There would be huge groups of people, basically small armies that would band together for survival. That would be the only possible way to survive something like this. Old Dog, you might survive a month or more in your house, but all it would take is for one of these groups to surround your house and wait you out if they so chose to do that. It would be huge fenced, protected communities that would survive not people in their houses.

jd1020 07-07-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9796936)
lol at people thinking they would survive this situation. There would be huge groups of people, basically small armies that would band together for survival. That would be the only possible way to survive something like this. Old Dog, you might survive a month or more in your house, but all it would take is for one of these groups to surround your house and wait you out if they so chose to do that. It would be huge fenced, protected communities that would survive not people in their houses.

Some people already live like this. You just wouldn't be able to survive in a congested area and would have to move to a very remote location up north.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796934)
Sounds REALLY dumb. Bullets work on remote controlled vehicles too.

I bet you couldn't hit my remote controlled airplane with a bullet coming Kamakaze style towards your house... You might hit it with birdshot when it's crashing into your house but that will only help the nitro spill and burn faster

notorious 07-07-2013 02:33 PM

No NFL or College football?


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:34 PM

Brick house with a metal roof and you may stand a better chance

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796942)
I bet you couldn't hit my remote controlled airplane with a bullet coming Kamakaze style towards your house... You might hit it with birdshot when it's crashing into your house but that will only help the nitro spill and burn faster

I'll take that bet. You want me to PM you my address or are you just talking shit again?
You didn't specify which weapons I get to use....assuming it's something I currently own and have rounds available for.

jd1020 07-07-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796944)
Brick house with a metal roof and you may stand a better chance

What if he isn't using a bullet and instead using a birdshot?

Tombstone RJ 07-07-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796914)
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lol

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9796946)
North Central Kansas, apparently....

I didn't ask him where I was located. Your reading comprehension is lacking.

Tombstone RJ 07-07-2013 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796944)
Brick house with a metal roof and you may stand a better chance

some guy with a flaming arrow is an easy target for my high power rifle and scope. He has to light up the arrow right? Yah, bang, bang, your dead.

Just because some guy shoots an arrow into a wood pile soaked with gas does not mean he will be able to light a house on fire with one shot. At most his arrow will hit a roof or the ground and someone will walk over and put it out. Mean while, he's gonna get shot with a semi auto high powered rifle if he tries it again.

LiveSteam 07-07-2013 02:41 PM

Everyone should have a kill list.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796945)
I'll take that bet. You want me to PM you my address or are you just talking shit again?
You didn't specify which weapons I get to use....assuming it's something I currently own and have rounds available for.

I could fly my RC airplane in to an orifice in your body before you got 5 shots off ROFL :shake:

notorious 07-07-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9796954)
Everyone should have a kill list.

JFC ROFL

Bwana 07-07-2013 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9796936)
lol at people thinking they would survive this situation. There would be huge groups of people, basically small armies that would band together for survival. That would be the only possible way to survive something like this. Old Dog, you might survive a month or more in your house, but all it would take is for one of these groups to surround your house and wait you out if they so chose to do that. It would be huge fenced, protected communities that would survive not people in their houses.

Not everyone lives in NY ****ing city. There are places around here that I know about that are VERY remote. Am I saying we would be living the life of Riley, no I'm not and there wouldn't be anything easy about it, but out here, it's doable. I've got enough survival crap and know enough people in the remote sticks that I would be fine. I can also survive off the land if I have to.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 9796952)
some guy with a flaming arrow is an easy target for my high power rifle and scope. He has to light up the arrow right? Yah, bang, bang, your dead.

Just because some guy shoots an arrow into a wood pile soaked with gas does not mean he will be able to light a house on fire with one shot. At most his arrow will hit a roof or the ground and someone will walk over and put it out. Mean while, he's gonna get shot with a semi auto high powered rifle if he tries it again.

How do you know that's what the guy is going to do? You are just gonna shoot him for lighting a cig?

You better get you a BOB and get your ass in the woods... That's where I am going

jd1020 07-07-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796959)
I could fly my RC airplane in to an orifice in your body before you got 5 shots off ROFL :shake:

Got the world champion remote control plane flyer over here with a stealth bomber flying at mach speed.

LiveSteam 07-07-2013 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9796963)
JFC ROFL

The kill list is for when SHTF turns into a civil war.

Munson 07-07-2013 02:46 PM

Don't worry, folks.

The federal gov't will provide us with plenty of food and water. LMAO

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9796968)
Got the world champion remote control plane flyer over here with a stealth bomber flying at mach speed.

Dude, I have crashed into much much smaller things than a damn roof

ClevelandBronco 07-07-2013 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9796858)
Everyone should keep at least a months worth of water & food. Past that IMO its anybody guess as to what you will need to survive.

I have that taken care of, but if the power goes out my first meal is going to have to be a month's worth of ice cream.

jd1020 07-07-2013 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796974)
Dude, I have crashed into much much smaller things than a damn roof

Forgot a roof is the same as someones mouth.

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:49 PM

Don't mistake me in this thread, I'm in no way, shape, or form a "Doomsday prepper", but with enough shelf stable food laid in for a month (already have more than that) and enough fuel to run a generator to pump water for that amount of time (don't currently have that or normally keep it on hand, but probably have enough for a couple of weeks at least) and enough weapons and ammo to likely take care of me and mine I think most could reasonably expect to be OK for some time.

The key, IMO would be to not be located (as have been mentioned) anywhere near a city of any real size.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-07-2013 02:50 PM

All Raider fans kill each other in a bloodletting orgy?

Bwana 07-07-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796967)
How do you know that's what the guy is going to do? You are just gonna shoot him for lighting a cig?

You better get you a BOB and get your ass in the woods... That's where I am going

Yep, one of the areas I know like the back of my hand is here. I was out there over the 4th.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 9796976)
Forgot a roof is the same as someones mouth.

Oh, I can't have a little fun ? I don't fly that good anyways but alot of people are really good..

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796959)
I could fly my RC airplane in to an orifice in your body before you got 5 shots off ROFL :shake:

You wanna try? Hell, we'll tape it for the benefit of Chiefsplanet.

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 9796983)
Yep, one of the areas I know like the back of my hand is here. I was out there over the 4th.

Damn that's beautiful... You can play King of the Mountain there

Old Dog 07-07-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9796974)
Dude, I have crashed into much much smaller things than a damn roof

Then you apparently aren't THAT good of a "pilot"

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796986)
You wanna try? Hell, we'll tape it for the benefit of Chiefsplanet.

Simmer down old dog, I am not coming after you... You won't last a week with a weak psychological mindset... You would be paranoid

R8RFAN 07-07-2013 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dog (Post 9796988)
Then you apparently aren't THAT good of a "pilot"

I ain't worth a shit and would probably crash it in your yard and catch your mailbox on fire.... This ain't about me, I am in NC and if I could travel to where you are I would just build a raft and go to an island

Bowser 07-07-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LiveSteam (Post 9796954)
Everyone should have a kill list.

Good lord, lol.

I'm betting that you are on a MINIMUM of three federal watch lists.

LiveSteam 07-07-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9796993)
Good lord, lol.

I'm betting that you are on a MINIMUM of three federal watch lists.

I thought a good communist was a dead communist? No


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