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Alex Smith 4Ever 04-11-2014 06:14 PM

Would you trade Alex Smith for Colin Kaepernick straight up?
 
I would not. Alex is a better quarterback right now and does not have the off field incidents of Kaepernick

WhitiE 04-11-2014 06:15 PM

Ok

Iconic 04-11-2014 06:16 PM

Why is 'neither one' not an option.

houstonwhodat 04-11-2014 06:18 PM

That's how you got Alex Smith in the first place dumb ass.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-11-2014 06:42 PM

**** no. Hate that douche

-King- 04-11-2014 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10556548)
That's how you got Alex Smith in the first place dumb ass.

:spock: What the **** are you talking about?

Pasta Little Brioni 04-11-2014 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10556548)
That's how you got Alex Smith in the first place dumb ass.

:LOL: what are u smoking?

Rasputin 04-11-2014 07:16 PM

Do we get our second round draft pick back and draft a quarterback by moving up?

Ceej 04-11-2014 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10556713)
:spock: What the **** are you talking about?

Leave him alone.

He's not used to talking about white people.

Easy 6 04-11-2014 07:28 PM

Nope.

Coochie liquor 04-11-2014 07:42 PM

Tough call. Kap is dynamic like Vick was when he first came in to the league. Haven seen a ton of his games but it seems he lacks the ability to throw the touch pass (I could be wrong) but seems to throw a nice deeper ball. I like Alex Smith but I think straight up I'd take Kap. He's younger an has shown he can win playoff games. Although I'd say Smith is a better passer. And maybe I keep thinking back to that GB playoff game from 2 years ago but Kap will gash you if he takes off.

TribalElder 04-11-2014 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever (Post 10556539)
I would not. Alex is a better quarterback right now and does not have the off field incidents of Kaepernick

Aids

New World Order 04-11-2014 07:55 PM

Of course

Gonzo 04-11-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10556548)
That's how you got Alex Smith in the first place dumb ass.

Derp

Ragged Robin 04-11-2014 08:01 PM

Kaepernick is a rapist and choke artist.

stonedstooge 04-11-2014 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10556548)
That's how you got Alex Smith in the first place dumb ass.

Like when we traded Steve Young for Joe Montana?

Gonzo 04-11-2014 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10556840)
Kaepernick is a rapist and choke artist.

That seems to be the trend for SB QB's. We need to tell Smith to start raping.

O.city 04-11-2014 08:15 PM

Does the 9er defense come too?

Ragged Robin 04-11-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10556896)
Does the 9er defense come too?

O-line plz.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 04-11-2014 09:15 PM

Atriensis spongia

TLO 04-11-2014 09:17 PM

Big boobs.

lewdog 04-11-2014 09:42 PM

Who has a higher ceiling?

Easy 6 04-11-2014 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10557099)
Who has a higher ceiling?

Kap is Mike Vick, if that helps.

lewdog 04-11-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10557115)
Kap is Mike Vick, if that helps.

And Alex Smith is?

Mother****erJones 04-11-2014 09:55 PM

ROFL OMFG

chiefzilla1501 04-11-2014 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10557099)
Who has a higher ceiling?

What a weird question to ask. I have never been to either of their houses.

chiefzilla1501 04-11-2014 09:59 PM

Is there an option for trading Alex Smith for Colin Kaepernick while slouching?

Deberg_1990 04-11-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10557123)
And Alex Smith is?

Mark Rypien

lewdog 04-11-2014 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10557157)
Mark Rypien

a 2x Super Bowl Champ. Wow.

Will Alex be wearing Chiefs red when this happens?

Carlota69 04-11-2014 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10557129)
What a weird question to ask. I have never been to either of their houses.

LMAO

Saccopoo 04-11-2014 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10557115)
Kap is Mike Vick, if that helps.

So, Smith then. Gotcha.

houstonwhodat 04-12-2014 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 10556832)
Derp

Didn't SF kick Alex Smith to the curb and you signed him as a FA?

No it wasn't a straight up trade.

But SF did swap AS for CK no matter how you look at it.

What makes you they would have any interest in taking him back?

This is a fantasy thread.

jspchief 04-12-2014 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10557099)
Who has a higher ceiling?

Probably Kaepernick. When he's at his best his athleticism brings another dimension. But I'm not sure he'll ever be top echelon. If I had to choose one I'd probably take him, simply based on potential. But I'm not sure I'd be much more content than I am with Smith.

BlackHelicopters 04-12-2014 07:04 AM

Great thread

wazu 04-12-2014 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10557339)
Didn't SF kick Alex Smith to the curb and you signed him as a FA?

No it wasn't a straight up trade.

But SF did swap AS for CK no matter how you look at it.

What makes you they would have any interest in taking him back?

This is a fantasy thread.

Yep. Just like the time we traded Brady for Cassel.

Simply Red 04-12-2014 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 10556544)
Why is 'neither one' not an option.

Because Alex didn't do HIS job in the playoff game last season.

jd1020 04-12-2014 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat (Post 10557339)
Didn't SF kick Alex Smith to the curb and you signed him as a FA?

That's exactly how it happened!

I just wish this FO understood that when you sign a FA player that it doesnt mean you have to give his previous team 2 2nd round picks.

Ohwell, live and learn I guess. They'll get better at this eventually... I hope.

htismaqe 04-12-2014 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 10557352)
Probably Kaepernick. When he's at his best his athleticism brings another dimension. But I'm not sure he'll ever be top echelon. If I had to choose one I'd probably take him, simply based on potential. But I'm not sure I'd be much more content than I am with Smith.

THIS.

bevischief 04-12-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 10556544)
Why is 'neither one' not an option.

This.

milkman 04-12-2014 07:49 AM

Kaepernick adds a playmaking dimension with his legs that only a couple of other QBs possess, but he struggles with touch and accuracy in the short passing game, and he hasn'y progressed beyond the 1 read progression as a passer, which is a concern for a QB going into his 4th season in the league.

And even with that 1 read, his decision making is questionable.

I have grown to really like Smith, but he is going to be 30, and he actually makes the argument for Kaepernick stronger with his progression.

I think Harbaugh is overrated as a guy that works with QBs.

Smith grew more in one season with Reid than he did in 2 with Harbaugh.

Give me Kaepernick with Reid.

TRR 04-12-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10557369)
Because Alex didn't do HIS job in the playoff game last season.

Totally agree with this. I mean 378 passing yards and 4 TDs with nearly 60 yards rushing...Not even CLOSE to doing your job as the QB. Who the hell does Smith think he is not playing both ways in that game? He saw the defense was struggling. A QB that does his job would have stepped in and, at minimum, played CB in that situation.
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rico 04-12-2014 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10556630)
**** no. Hate that douche

This. I ****ing hate Colin Kaepernick. I would prefer Alex Smith over Kaepernick entirely due to the fact that I ****ing can't stand Raeperdick.

In58men 04-12-2014 08:38 AM

In a heart beat.


People let their hate judge his performance. Like most fans feel bad for Alex Smith so they say he's good lol. Manziel is a douche, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a bad ass.

Messier 04-12-2014 08:43 AM

The fact that this is such a tough question makes me think about what a strange move it was to bench him in 2012.

Those here that hated the move kept referring to Smith as just another backup QB, or another team's trash. But Smith was winning, and was the highest rated QB in the league at the time of his injury. I guess Harbaugh just liked that extra athletic dimension Kaepernick offered, but it was a weird move that I think confused some of the fans and players too.

O.city 04-12-2014 09:05 AM

I don't think it's a weird move, in harbaugh a system, Kaep has a higher upside due to his legs.

Like milkman, I think Harbaugh is a little overrated as a qb guru.

htismaqe 04-12-2014 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10557395)
Kaepernick adds a playmaking dimension with his legs that only a couple of other QBs possess, but he struggles with touch and accuracy in the short passing game, and he hasn'y progressed beyond the 1 read progression as a passer, which is a concern for a QB going into his 4th season in the league.

And even with that 1 read, his decision making is questionable.

I have grown to really like Smith, but he is going to be 30, and he actually makes the argument for Kaepernick stronger with his progression.

I think Harbaugh is overrated as a guy that works with QBs.

Smith grew more in one season with Reid than he did in 2 with Harbaugh.

Give me Kaepernick with Reid.

This is pretty much how I see it too...

O.city 04-12-2014 09:08 AM

I think Kaeps legs actually keep him from progressing as a qb.

OldSchool 04-12-2014 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10557447)
I think Kaeps legs actually keep him from progressing as a qb.

Same here. Too reliant on them so his natural passing instincts never really developed. He has absolutely no anticipation and is always late in his reads. Trusts his arm strength and legs way too much.

O.city 04-12-2014 09:25 AM

He doesn't have very good pocket awareness either

Pasta Little Brioni 04-12-2014 09:33 AM

You guys can have Dolphin boy.

jd1020 04-12-2014 10:02 AM

I really don't see this as that hard of a choice.

I'd take Colin and not think twice about it. You can sit here and say this and that about his passing but he damn near threw for as many yards as Alex in 92 less attempts. They were pretty much equal in terms of TD:INT ratio. But, Alex cant even come close to what Colin can do with his legs.

Give me Colin.

Hammock Parties 04-12-2014 10:04 AM

Dumb thread. Kill yourself.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-12-2014 10:05 AM

You are right. It isn't hard. I picked Alex with out a 2nd thought and so would most of the Niner fans. They hate that tattooed douche.

jd1020 04-12-2014 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10557511)
You are right. It isn't hard. I picked Alex with out a 2nd thought and so would most of the Niner fans. They hate that tattooed douche.

Just as long as you pick the right 53...

Pasta Little Brioni 04-12-2014 10:10 AM

It pains u guys Alex caught fire late when it counted doesn't it?

jd1020 04-12-2014 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10557517)
It pains u guys Alex caught fire late when it counted doesn't it?

No more than the last 7 Chiefs playoff appearances.

rico 04-12-2014 10:21 AM

I am not an Alex Smith fan. I LOVE him when compared to Cassel, but I feel we should shoot for someone better than him if and when given the chance. I haven't "settled" for Smith and I doubt I am ever going to.

However, regardless of how capable I feel Kaepernick is as a football player, I'd have a difficult time rooting for him if he were our QB because I hate him that much. I think he is the epitome of douche and I would hate to have his ugly mug as the face of our franchise. If he were out QB...I'd probably just focus primarily on fantasy football until he was gone....can't stand him. To me, Colin Kaepernick to football is Carlos Zambrano or Johnny Cueto to baseball in terms of how much I despise them.

Messier 04-12-2014 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10557506)
I really don't see this as that hard of a choice.

I'd take Colin and not think twice about it. You can sit here and say this and that about his passing but he damn near threw for as many yards as Alex in 92 less attempts. They were pretty much equal in terms of TD:INT ratio. But, Alex cant even come close to what Colin can do with his legs.

Give me Colin.

I wouldn't say, "can't even come close", Tom Brady can't come close, Smith has very good mobility.

Mr. Laz 04-12-2014 10:33 AM

I think we are rebuilding so probably

Pablo 04-12-2014 10:43 AM

We'll trade a couple firsts for him when he's 30. That's the Chiefs way. Get 'em on the tail end of their career and over pay.

In58men 04-12-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10557554)
I think we are rebuilding so probably

Makes sense, usually you rebuild with younger players not players going on 31. Oh wait never mind, only the Chiefs would do that.

Mother****erJones 04-12-2014 11:03 AM

Does a bear shit in the woods? Is the pope catholic?

Messier 04-12-2014 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10557593)
Makes sense, usually you rebuild with younger players not players going on 31. Oh wait never mind, only the Chiefs would do that.

Love how when someone wants to make a player seem older, just say how old he'll be five months after next season is over.

Marcellus 04-12-2014 11:10 AM

This is basically a yea Marcellus was right all of last off season and season thread.

Just sayin.

Ragged Robin 04-12-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10557593)
Makes sense, usually you rebuild with younger players not players going on 31. Oh wait never mind, only the Chiefs would do that.

Settle down, Smith isn't even 30 yet ROFL Aaron Rodgers is a few months older than Alex and he's considered to be at the prime of his career.

jd1020 04-12-2014 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10557627)
Settle down, Smith isn't even 30 yet ROFL Aaron Rodgers is a few months older than Alex and he's considered to be at the prime of his career.

If only Smiths prime could see Rodgers' prime on the horizon...

Coochie liquor 04-12-2014 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10557599)
Does a bear shit in the woods? Is the pope catholic?

I've been saying it wrong. I thought it was does the pope shit in the woods. That makes much more sense your way!

In58men 04-12-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10557627)
Settle down, Smith isn't even 30 yet ROFL Aaron Rodgers is a few months older than Alex and he's considered to be at the prime of his career.

Please don't put Alexis Smith in the same sentence as Aaron Rodgers.

Marcellus 04-12-2014 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10557654)
Please don't put Alexis Smith in the same sentence as Aaron Rodgers.

I know right. Arron Rodgers has won 2 more games in a season than Smith.

Bow down.

In58men 04-12-2014 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10557658)
I know right. Arron Rodgers has won 2 more games in a season than Smith.

Bow down.

Not sure what you're talking about, but Rodgers was hurt at the end of the season. Went to Chicago and won in the playoffs.


Did I forget to mention Rodgers has a ring lol

htismaqe 04-12-2014 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10557658)
I know right. Arron Rodgers has won 2 more games in a season than Smith.

Bow down.

Come on man. Seriously?

mcaj22 04-12-2014 11:50 AM

you're a moron if you put Alex Smith on the same tier as Rodgers

and I love Alex Smith

In58men 04-12-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10557673)
you're a moron if you put Alex Smith on the same tier as Rodgers

and I love Alex Smith

A realist

O.city 04-12-2014 12:05 PM

Rodgers is arguably the best qb in the game right now. He pretty much carries a slop roster

bevischief 04-12-2014 12:18 PM

Drugs are bad...

redfan 04-12-2014 01:44 PM

Poop Taco Flambe'

Ragged Robin 04-12-2014 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 10557654)
Please don't put Alexis Smith in the same sentence as Aaron Rodgers.

Wow you guys have really bad reading comprehension skills.

"Rodgers is older than Smith"
"omg heresy don't compare them"

LMAO

splatbass 04-12-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10557673)
you're a moron if you put Alex Smith on the same tier as Rodgers

Who did that?

Hint: he compared their AGE, not their performance.

I swear, the reading comprehension around here is at the third grade level.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-12-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 10558042)
Who did that?

Hint: he compared their AGE, not their performance.

I swear, the reading comprehension around here is at the third grade level.

mjac is here to bitch

splatbass 04-12-2014 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10558045)
mjac is here to bitch

Like a lot of people.


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