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DeezNutz 01-07-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9291495)
well, that sounds better than father time trying to run the tampa 2...

i'm still jumpy from PPSD....post-'Team-killer' Pioli stress syndrome

It's going to take a while to accept competence from the staff and FO of this organization, should this actually prove true.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9291520)
So then he'd roll with a d-line like this?

Poe - Dorsey - Hali?

In a 4-3 under, one of your 3-4 OLBs has his hand in the dirt.

As it stands TODAY (and remember, both Dorsey and Jackson have contract situations), it would be:

Jackson - Poe - Dorsey - Hali

tk13 01-07-2013 10:11 AM

I always felt like we wasted Jackson and Dorsey in the first place playing a 3-4. We never found a good NT, although maybe Poe would get there. I think I have zero problem going back to the 4-3. We won't need to waste time finding a unicorn at NT and can just go after pass rushers.

Kiffin's old but at least he doesn't need help running the D. That's the concern with Reid. I'm not against hiring an inexperienced guy but if he's in over his head we're screwed. They need to hire someone Reid can just leave alone with the defense.
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RealSNR 01-07-2013 10:12 AM

Bad news is, as somebody already pointed out:

It's possible this coaching staff will deem drafting Demontre Moore more important than taking the top QB :grr:

The Franchise 01-07-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9291530)
In a 4-3 under, one of your 3-4 OLBs has his hand in the dirt.

As it stands TODAY (and remember, both Dorsey and Jackson have contract situations), it would be:

Jackson - Poe - Dorsey - Hali

Gotcha. I still think Jackson is gone. Dorsey would be a good fit....but only if he comes back under a better contract. Are you looking for more of a run stuffer in Jackson's spot or a pass rusher?

I'm obviously not familiar with the defense.

ChiefMojo 01-07-2013 10:20 AM

DL would go big SDE (could Jackson play this?), 1-Tech in Poe, 3-Tech in Dorsey and then WDE in Hali. Houston would be the SLB and line up right beside the SDE similar to a 3-4 look. DJ would likely be the WLB if I were to guess and we would bring in a MLB (draft Arthur Brown? or a FA pick-up?).

Another article talking 4-3 under scheme.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/7/...uction-the-4-3

Basically this defense still asks a lot from Hali (WDE) and Houston (SLB)!

Mr. Flopnuts 01-07-2013 10:25 AM

Kiffin is a defensive genius. If he can adapt, I'm all about it. Andy needs someone desperately who can field a defense for him. We have plenty of toys for Monte to play with. Get another DE, and we're good.

Mr. Flopnuts 01-07-2013 10:28 AM

We've got to cut Tyson Jackson. He's a 3-4 end due $17 million. And it took him too ****ing long to start showing anything in the damn 3-4. He's got to go.

Chief Faithful 01-07-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9291562)
DL would go big SDE (could Jackson play this?), 1-Tech in Poe, 3-Tech in Dorsey and then WDE in Hali. Houston would be the SLB and line up right beside the SDE similar to a 3-4 look. DJ would likely be the WLB if I were to guess and we would bring in a MLB (draft Arthur Brown? or a FA pick-up?).

Another article talking 4-3 under scheme.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/7/...uction-the-4-3

Based on how Jackson responded when moved inside for pass rushing makes me think he would do well as a strong side DE in the 4-3.

Urc Burry 01-07-2013 10:32 AM

I don't see why Justin Houston couldn't thrive in a Von Miller type role :shrug: he ran a 4.62 which is plenty fast

ChiefMojo 01-07-2013 10:34 AM

Remember the Seahawks SDE is Red Bryant... Monster DE. Jackson has the size but is he good enough?

DaKCMan AP 01-07-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9291562)
DL would go big SDE (could Jackson play this?), 1-Tech in Poe, 3-Tech in Dorsey and then WDE in Hali. Houston would be the SLB and line up right beside the SDE similar to a 3-4 look. DJ would likely be the WLB if I were to guess and we would bring in a MLB (draft Arthur Brown? or a FA pick-up?).

Another article talking 4-3 under scheme.

http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/7/...uction-the-4-3

Basically this defense still asks a lot from Hali (WDE) and Houston (SLB)!

Nice. I could see the team making this transition. Seems like a lot would depend upon Hali's ability to beat the LT and us getting a good ILB in the draft, which we need anyway. I think with this defensive scheme a safety tandem of Eric Berry and Matt Elam would beast.

The Franchise 01-07-2013 10:37 AM

The Seahawks defensive line.

Red Bryant (6'4" 323) - Alan Branch (6'6" 325) - Brandon Mebane (6'1" 311) - Chris Clemons (6'3" 254)

ChiefsCountry 01-07-2013 10:38 AM

Glad we are going back to the 4-3.

RealSNR 01-07-2013 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9291602)
Remember the Seahawks SDE is Red Bryant... Monster DE. Jackson has the size but is he good enough?

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