Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10405602)

I don't only like obscure things. Besides, Pantera doesn't sound anything like those bands. What Pantera sounds like is Exhorder, whom Pantera totally ripped off.

I do like a handful of Pantera tracks (Cemetery Gates primarily.) I guess I can dig the whole Cowboys From Hell album, more or less. The others are just so boring. Like, their whole "groove metal" sound was always pretty tiresome even on an album I kinda like. I mean, compared to the riff quotient of a thrash or death metal band. Even black metal, with its emphasis on atmosphere, brings more riffs to the table than the average Pantera song does.

For those reasons, Pantera are underwhelming to me. Dimebag is a great guitar player (though he is certainly overrated and is sadly influential), but an incredibly overrated songwriter. The Vulgar Display of Power album makes me want to throw up. Out of sheer boredom.



Go listen to John Petrucci try and fail for the thirtieth time to write a decent song. Be sure to report back.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10474890)

Can't agree with you.

Megadeth had one album I really liked.

Metallica had four.

I really couldn't care less about what either of them are doing now.

Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 10474896)

Yeah. I can totally relate. for sure.
i was just listening to Mustaine's melodies and what not, and thought they were so much intricate than Hetfields.


don't get me wrong.......they're both amazing. like a ribeye or KC strips.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10474890)

Can't agree with you.

Megadeth had one album I really liked.

Metallica had four.

I really couldn't care less about what either of them are doing now.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10475742)

Megadeth never kept my attention beyond the 90's.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10475742)

Yeah, I mean it was just so long ago now. I haven't listened to most of the band's mentioned on this page in like 5 years. :D When it comes to technical proficiency, Metallica isn't really that great. I love their songs. MoP is still one my all time favs.

The whole reason there's so much damn music is because people like so many different things. I used to be that guy who ran around saying 'this sucks' or 'this is shit' if I didn't like something, but then I grew up and realized what an asshole that makes me. Yanno, like who the hell am I to call someone's artistic self expression 'shit'? Who the hell am I to define that? What have I done to put my own self out there?

There are too many critics in the world and not enough appreciators. Megadeth never kept my attention beyond the 90's. That doesn't matter, because Mustaine is still a metal legend. I'm just some asshole. :D

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10475742)

Yeah, I mean it was just so long ago now. I haven't listened to most of the band's mentioned on this page in like 5 years. :D When it comes to technical proficiency, Metallica isn't really that great. I love their songs. MoP is still one my all time favs.

The whole reason there's so much damn music is because people like so many different things. I used to be that guy who ran around saying 'this sucks' or 'this is shit' if I didn't like something, but then I grew up and realized what an asshole that makes me. Yanno, like who the hell am I to call someone's artistic self expression 'shit'? Who the hell am I to define that? What have I done to put my own self out there?

There are too many critics in the world and not enough appreciators. Megadeth never kept my attention beyond the 90's. That doesn't matter, because Mustaine is still a metal legend. I'm just some asshole. :D

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10476603)

"Rust in Peace" is better than anything Metallica has ever released, IMO. But I'm also a musician and was a big fan of Friedman and his style before he ever joined Megadeth. His addition, for me, took Megadeth beyond thrash/speed metal and into something much more complex and fulfilling. At the same time, Metallica went the other direction, simplifying their formula and making it more consumable.

It's easy for me to understand why people like Metallica more. I just don't agree.

I too couldn't care less about what they're doing now.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10476607)

They didn't even hold my attention that long. Of course, Metallica didn't keep my interest beyond the 80's. :D

One thing I can say about Metallica though is that, for me, at least the Black album was transitional. It could have been a musical brick wall like "Risk".

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10477172)

Yeah well, I was 9 when the 80's ended. LMAO

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10477178)

That actually says a lot. You're like 10 years younger than me.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10477345)

Yup. Thrash metal was dying when I started listening to heavy music, but I still collected the shit out of it cos I missed it.

I'm honestly more of a jam band/rock and roll/stoner rock/doom type of dude. I love sludgy riff driven rock.

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10474894)

Sounds to me like you simply don't appreciate the sludgy nature of their sound, and use that to call them 'garbage'.

I mean 'riff quotient'?

Damn, I bet you HATE rock and roll... what with them not noodling fast enough nor matching your riff quotient requirement. ROFL