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philfree 01-07-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9291361)
I'm against the Tampa 2.

Fighting against a change to the 4-3 seems like a lost cause at this point. They're going to do it.

One step forward two steps back.

Damit Clark! You want to be like Pittsburgh then set the tone. Build a badass attacking D and never let the well run dry on talent. Keep it stocked. Also acquire a franchise QB. It's going to be hard to do if everytime we hire a new HC we change the damn defensive scheme.

HemiEd 01-07-2013 09:33 AM

Interesting.

As I said in the other thread, I am all for Reid's decisions until he ****s them up and right now he is batting 0 for 0.

Crazy that they wasted Dorsey's whole first contract trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, now after it is over, the round hole would be there.

TJ is finally starting to play like a draftable talent, albeit not 3rd overall. He would not fit in the 4-3, correct?

The Bad Guy 01-07-2013 09:35 AM

He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9291399)
Interesting.

As I said in the other thread, I am all for Reid's decisions until he ****s them up and right now he is batting 0 for 0.

Crazy that they wasted Dorsey's whole first contract trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, now after it is over, the round hole would be there.

TJ is finally starting to play like a draftable talent, albeit not 3rd overall. He would not fit in the 4-3, correct?

I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.

Rausch 01-07-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9291311)
Sure, but it's a lateral move.

We could tack on the "assistant HC" label or some other BS title and about $2 mil a year...

htismaqe 01-07-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9291409)
He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.

True.

htismaqe 01-07-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9291415)
We could tack on the "assistant HC" label or some other BS title and about $2 mil a year...

I think they outlawed that.

DaKCMan AP 01-07-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cosmos (Post 9291305)
Watching every USC game the past year... Kiffin did not impress with superior talent.

USC pushed him out the door....

I do not want Kiffin, but the above is a myth. USC did not have superior talent on defense. They lacked depth and most of the hits from ncaa sanctions were on defense.

USC defensive players drafted by year:

2009 - 8
2010 - 3
2011 - 3
2012 - 1

Rausch 01-07-2013 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9291418)
I think they outlawed that.

****.

Gawd I hate teh lawyers...

DaKCMan AP 01-07-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9291399)
Interesting.

As I said in the other thread, I am all for Reid's decisions until he ****s them up and right now he is batting 0 for 0.

Crazy that they wasted Dorsey's whole first contract trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, now after it is over, the round hole would be there.

TJ is finally starting to play like a draftable talent, albeit not 3rd overall. He would not fit in the 4-3, correct?

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9291414)
I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.

I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?

chiefzilla1501 01-07-2013 09:45 AM

I initially hated the idea of kiffin but it's growing on me.

Didn't realize he runs the under. It's not Tampa 2. It's a very aggressive defense. It's what Seattle runs. Best news is it would be an easy transition. It's basically a 4-3 that uses 3-4 personnel.

Now.. This isn't his baby. Kiffin adapted to this defense and struggled with it at USC. But I love the scheme for kc.

Rausch 01-07-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9291440)
I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?

Jackson is the guy I think would be the worst fit in a 4-3.

Powe/Poe and Dorsey (if resigned) could handle DT in a rotation.

I don't like Hali as a 4-3 OLB and he's not strong enough to play the end...

dallaschiefsfan 01-07-2013 09:47 AM

Any DC that can work with our talent and exploit what we have....that's what I'm for. Schemes generally don't excite me. Having said that, I'd prefer a coach that can employ a 34-43 hybrid that's super-aggressive.

HemiEd 01-07-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9291409)
He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.

So they are just going to lose him you think? Maybe he will give the Chiefs a discount since he has been way overpaid?

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9291414)
I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.

Would he then become a rushing DE, instead of just eating up blockers?
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9291440)
I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?

I would love to see them get some return on that huge investment.

ChiefMojo 01-07-2013 09:48 AM

Told you guys this was coming. All signs were pointing to the 4-3 under which the likes of Kiffin, Jauron and Seattle runs.

It is actually a defense that s similar to the 3-4.


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