Qb Drafting Guessing game.
 

The stuff posted about who scouts like and who they don't, got me thinking about predraft rankings.

So lets play a little game. I tried it in another thread but it kinda got buried.

I think this will be a good visual for some of the "don't draft x QB early, he isn't Luck etc" fans.

So, I will post a pre draft scouting report and you guys try and guess the player.

Put this one in the other thread so we will start with it.

POSITIVES: Athletic passer with the physical skills and mental intangibles needed to lead a franchise at the next level. Quickly sets up in the pocket, sells ball fakes and technically very sound. Poised under the rush, steps up to avoid defenders and works to keep the play alive. Patient, buys time in the pocket and waits for receivers to come free. Does an excellent job with his reads and natural looking off the safety. Does not make mental errors and throws the ball away rather than toss the errant pass. Times the short and intermediate throws well, as receivers rarely wait for the ball out of their breaks. Outstanding vision and immediately spots the open receiver. Possesses a quick release, live arm and zips the outs or gets the ball downfield. Throws with touch. Sits in the pocket and takes a big hit in order to get the pass off. Fleet-footed and picks up yardage with his legs when necessary.

NEGATIVES: Though accurate, lacks top pass placement and has receivers extending vertically to pull the ball out of the air. Must improve his accuracy down the field. Lacks top footwork releasing the ball off a three step drop. Lacks pocket stature.

ANALYSIS: A physically gifted passer with a great understanding of the position, _____ has made himself one of the nation's top quarterback prospects the past two seasons. May not fit every system, but should quickly flourish in the NFL for a timing offense that does not throw the ball down the field with regularity. Offers a good amount of upside and is a coachable player who should continually improve his game.

PROJECTION: Early First Round

Who is it?


Here's another one.

A vocal leader in the huddle. Arm strength is not spectacular but strong enough. Not a threat to run the ball , but scrambles extremely well. Solid with his technique.
Weaknesses
Accuracy is the number one concern. 19 interceptions in 14 games is unacceptable for a first round pick. Most interceptions are a result of short arming passes


All QB's listed are currently in the league.

Is this a QB coming out this year?

Nope

Neither are this year. Both currently int he NFL.

And don't cheat and google it.

Rodgers.

Next.

Sorter with the win on the first.


Now, who's the second.

Damn was who I was going to say you got it.

Marky Baywatch

PGM, is that Sanchez?

2nd one =Rapist or Eli?

2nd one is .............









Matt Ryan.

Don't edit the OP.

Post new scouting reports in new posts.

Too confusing to read the OP over again.

2nd one was easy because I remember Ryan's INTs.

This one should be easier.



POSITIVES: Play-making quarterback with a great feel for the position and game. Sets in the pocket with solid footwork, does a terrific job selling the ball fakes then scans the field, buying as much time as possible. Patient, in total control of the offense and makes smart decisions. Natural looking off the safety, stands strong against the rush and works hard to make positive plays. Sharp and accurate in the short game; leads receivers on crossing patters, puts zip on intermediate throws and has a great sense of timing. Knows were the receivers are on the field and puts passes where only his wide outs can make the reception. Instinctive, possesses great football intelligence and a leader in every sense of the word. Turned in a tremendous performance at the Senior Bowl after an illustrious collegiate career

NEGATIVES: Has a terrible throwing motion that is best described as awkward. Pushes the ball or whips it from the side and falls out of his throws. Looks like he's throwing a heavy ball and constantly changes his point of release. Cannot drive the deep pass and not accurate down the field.

Rivers

Rivers?

The Good: Big armed pocket passer with the abilities to make plays in or out of the pocket. Poised under pressure, looks off the safety and takes what the defense gives him. Possesses a terrific pump fake, drives his long passes down the field and smartly places his deep throws in front of the target, letting receivers run to the ball. Gets outside the pocket, makes plays on the move and loses nothing on his throws displaying zip on the short passes or driving the deep tosses while on the run. In complete control of the offense in every sense of the word and a true leader that makes good decisions and does not put his team in a bad spot.

The Bad: Needs to improve his footwork, release and does not throw the tightest spirals.

Sorter is 2/3.

You guys need to pick it up.

This one is a little tricky because it says he's got great zip and arm but says doesn't throw tight spirals.

The footwork/release makes me think this is Cutler or Stafford.

Big Ben?

Anyone else on that one?

Pest with a win.


Good job buddy.

Load up another? Ok.


Strengths: Average height, but has great bulk ... Born with a rocket launcher for a right arm ... Throws the ball with a nice, tight spiral consistently ... Puts great touch on fade routes ... Displays a compact release ... Secures the football in the pocket ... Plays in a pro-style offense and is well coached ... Has a lot of experience against top competition as a 3 year starter ... More productive in junior season than he was in past ... Upside warrants a top three pick.

Weaknesses: Drop could be much quicker ... Sluggish footwork at times ... Throws off his back foot more than he should and it leads to poor accuracy ... Puts too much zip on the football on intermediate and crossing routes ... Doesn't sell the play action as well as he could ... Not going to elude pressure in the pocket, but does a decent job of moving the chains with his feet ... Doesn't show an understanding to audible into the correct pass protection or diagnose coverages.

Stafford?

Stafford.

^^This

Would you stop posting? I end up getting distracted looking at Boxxy.

:D

http://results.interesting.cc/click/...3bdbc2b0c1&n=0


For shits and giggles I looked up Matt Cassels predraft scouting report and this is the result I got.

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That seems fairly accurate to me.

3 way tie there.


Nicely played fellas, I'm making em too easy.


Wears left knee brace… During pregame warmup, didn’t look like he had a rocket arm… As game progressed, I saw excellent arm strength under pressure and the ability to get velocity on the ball on most throws. Good deep ball range. Good touch. Good vision and poise.

Sees the field… In shotgun on most plays and his only running option is a draw… his offensive line is poor. Red-shirt freshman left tackle. ____ doesn’t trust his protection. Can’t. No way he can take any form of a deep drop and look downfield. With no running game (10 yards rushing the first half) and no real top receivers, he’s stuck with the three-step drops and waiting til the last second to see if a receiver can get free. No tight end either. No flaring back. So he’s taking some big hits. Taking them well. Carried an overmatched team entirely on his shoulders. … He’s big, never gets rattled. Rallied his team from a 14-3 halftime deficit basically all by himself. Led them on two successive third quarter drives to go ahead, 17-16. The first touchdown, a 40-yard streak down the left sideline, he dropped the ball over the receiver’s right shoulder. Called the next touchdown pass himself, checking off to a 12-yard slant… Makes a lot of decisions on play calls at the line of scrimmage, but they ask too much of him. They don’t just let him play. This is a guy you should just let play… When he’s inaccurate, he’s usually high, but rarely off target to either side… Plays smart and with complete confidence. Doesn’t scold his teammates, but lets them know when they line up wrong or run the wrong pattern… Threw three interceptions. Two were his fault. Trying to force something both times. He could have run on one of them, a fourth down play. He has a lot to learn.

Summary: I think he’s the complete package. He’s not going to be a fast runner, but a little like Joe Montana, he has enough athletic ability to get out of trouble. In that department, . But he has a feel for the pocket. Feels the rush.

Throws the ball, takes the hit, gets right back up… Has courage and poise. In my opinion, most of all, he has that quality you can’t define. Call it magic. As [former Baltimore Colts defensive back] Bobby Boyd told me once about Unitas, “Two things set him apart: his left testicle and his right testicle.”… . ___ doesnt get much help from the coaching staff. If he comes out early, we should move up to take him. These guys are rare, you know.

Are these all about starters?

Jake Plummer?

Starters and still in the league?

No wait...I bet that's Josh Freeman.

Yes, these are all current starters in the league.

The last one is from an actual GM.


And the player is Eli Manning.


No one wins that one.

Really hard to tell, but that'd be my guess too. Maybe Flacco?

Edit: NVM

Strengths: Elite frame with excellent height and in great condition ... No questions about arm strength; shows elite arm strength on 15- to 20-yard stick throws (outs, posts) ... Uses nice touch and throws a catchable ball ... Can throw the ball on the run ... Very low interception percentage from sophomore to junior year; Solid decision maker ... Nice footwork and has a quick drop ... Outstanding feel for the pass rush ... Great mobility and can gain yardage with his feet ... Extremely high upside.

Weaknesses: Accuracy was abysmal in junior year ... Locks on to receivers and shows below-average field vision ... Wildly inconsistent; runs hot and cold ... Questionable leadership ... Intangibles will go under the microscope by pro scouts who can talk to ___ players and coaches.

Cutler?

That one's Flacco.

Come on Clay, you of all people should get that last one.

Josh Freeman.

Freeman?

Positives: Has added over ten pounds of bulk and muscle tone to his frame during the 2005 offseason … Shows good mobility rolling out of the pocket and decent quickness driving back from center to his throwing point … Does a good job of hitting his receivers in stride in the short area, especially on crossing patterns … Tough player who absorbs a lot of punishment due to marginal protection, yet has missed only three-quarters of one game and one-quarter of another due to injuries … Shows good touch and accuracy on underneath routes … Has the balance and lateral agility to step up to avoid the pass rush … Despite holding the ball low, he has the arm power and quick throwing motion to get the ball out with velocity on screens … Can buy time in the backfield when flushed out due to his foot quickness … Has a lively arm with a snappy release (but needs mechanical refinement).

Negatives: Might be a little gun-shy from all the punishment he has taken over the years … Needs to do a better job of securing the ball before running, as he has fumbled 25 times the last two years … Must do a better job at the pre-snap recognizing defensive schemes, as he does not always scan the field well … Seems to lack confidence with his receivers, failing to anticipate when his targets will be breaking, resulting in a high amount of deflected passes … Spends too much time eyeballing his primary target, rarely looking off to locate his secondary receivers (this causes a lot of interceptions (27) and pass deflections (149) over the last three years, including 74 pass break-ups in 2005) … Must learn how to step into his throws to generate better accuracy (steps back on too many of his tosses) … Uses poor judgment at times when flushed out of the pocket, either holding on to the ball too long resulting in a sack, or throwing the ball up for grabs causing costly interceptions … Has good touch in the short area, but because he carries the ball so low, he does not get ideal trajectory to feather the ball over the head of the defender … Lacks accuracy throwing on the run, especially when unleashing from the left hash … Rotates his hips too much through his release and needs to throw off the front foot more.

Cutler

Cutler?

2 for 2 there.


Cutler.

Positives: Good height to see the field. Very poised and composed. Smart and alert. Can read coverages. Good accuracy and touch. Produces in big spots and in big games. Has some Brian Griese in him and is a gamer. Generally plays within himself. Team leader.

Negatives: Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the '99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you'd like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can't drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his

Matt Leinart.

Flacco?

Tom Brady?

Wait.....99 season? Jesus.

Tom Brady?

Curse my slow internet.

****, nevermind.

Yeah I'd bet that's Brady.

Surprised you guys can't get that last one.


I thought there'd be a bundchen that would get that one?

Dang, sure fit the description of Brady......

I dunno.

Didn't catch my Freudian slip there?


Yeah it's Brady.

Well now it's obviously Brady.

Give us some from the 90s. Might be hard to find.

Sarcasm fail. :grr:

Positives: Has smooth muscle tone with good upper and lower body development . Displays proper upper-body mechanics in his setup . Has a snappy, quick release and the arm strength to get the ball deep . Shows a good, soft touch and the ability to sense pressure in the pocket . Elusive enough to scramble away from defenders to buy more time . Very comfortable in the short-to-medium passing attack, putting good zip behind his tosses . Really came into his own as a senior, showing the leadership and poise that was missing in the past . Has ideal size, big hands and very good running speed . Shows good pinpoint accuracy and now shows the ability to spot his secondary targets.

Negatives: Lacks a quick arm, as the ball does not explode out of his hands . Does not take command of the huddle the way he should . Plays well in spurts, but until the second half of 2002, he did not show consistency . Can be rattled under pressure . Very streaky thrower who makes poor decisions when off his game, eyeing his primary targets too long . Needs to do a better job of reading and reacting to the pass rush . Will spray the ball at times on his long tosses.

Schaub?

Carson Palmer.

Carson Palmer?

I would go Palmer.

Palmer

I GOT IT FIRST GENIOUSES

Totally forgot about Carson.

Yeah, it's Palmer.

I got Stafford first.....Dick.

It's hard to find any of the 90's guys.

ANALYSIS
Positives... Versatile scrambler who is very tough to defend...Shows quick feet and excellent balance, smoothly dropping back from center in his set-up...Has a snappy overhead delivery and a good feel for reading defenses...Knows how to lay the ball away from defenders on his deep tosses and shows good touch on his post patterns... Confident on the field, proving that improvising is one of his stronger suits...Well-respected by his teammates as he rarely loses his cool...Puts impressive zip behind his short tosses, threading the needle on his slants...Leads his receivers well into the pass on his long outs...Eludes the rush with fluid agility and steps up in the pocket to absorb punishment rather than making a costly throw into coverage...Excels at getting outside the pocket and throwing on the run...His ability to run with the ball causes opponents to defend the entire field...Anticipates coverages, throwing to receivers away from defenders.

Negatives... Tries to carry the "weight of the world" on his shoulders too much...Seems very uncomfortable being in the limelight...Still needs to mature as a player...Sometimes gets too confident in his running skills, forgetting to eye his secondary receivers in order to run with the ball when his primary target is not available...Tends to get into a three-quarter throwing motion as the game wears on, taking a little zip off his tosses... Has a little bit of a wind-up in his release when throwing long, which makes his receivers work a little harder in order to get to the ball...Has good arm strength, but needs to refine his throwing mechanics, as he is not that quick to load and reload in his delivery.

Is this a 90s?

nope

Michael Vick

My turn.

Positives

• Makes great accurate throws, already NFL caliber type passer
• True pocket passer
• Quick release and fast throwing motion limits turnovers
• Tremendous arm strength

Negatives

• Size is a little below average
• Is brittle, injured in 2003 and 2004 at ______
• Release point is low
• Slow player, lacks agility to make lineman miss

Draft Outlook

Sounds like Croyle. LMAO

That last one is Vince Young.

Yup. ROFL