ChiefsPlanet
Page 5 of 51 1234 5 678915 Last »
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Todd Haley is the "Mystery of Pittsburgh" (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=261647)

jd1020 07-22-2012 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8759766)
Because the same people who screamed for 5 years that this team is worthless without a franchise QB are now the ones who say Haley is a lousy coach because he couldn't win without one.

I don't know if Haley was going to be a good coach or a great coach. I do know that he deserved better than a front office stubbornly clinging to a bad QB. And he deserved better than the petty micromanagement and head games that Pioli was pushing on him.
I'd take Cassel over Palko but maybe thats just me.

chiefzilla1501 07-22-2012 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759770)
I'd take Cassel over Palko but maybe thats just me.
And who's damn fault was that? Last time I checked, Pioli was the guy who had the power to bring somebody else in.

jd1020 07-22-2012 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8759771)
And who's damn fault was that? Last time I checked, Pioli was the guy who had the power to bring somebody else in.
Pretty sure Kyle Orton was on the team.

chiefzilla1501 07-22-2012 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759774)
Pretty sure Kyle Orton was on the team.
Oh right, THAT bullshit argument.

BigMeatballDave 07-22-2012 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759774)
Pretty sure Kyle Orton was on the team.
Yeah, he should have started in Chicago.

jd1020 07-22-2012 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8759778)
Oh right, THAT bullshit argument.
Do explain.

L.A. Chieffan 07-22-2012 03:16 PM
Thank goodness Cassell is no longer hamstrung by this guy.

jd1020 07-22-2012 03:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8759781)
Yeah, he should have started in Chicago.
I would have started him against Pittsburgh or at least brought him in in the 2nd half. A half assed offense with Orton > a full playbook with Palko.

chiefzilla1501 07-22-2012 03:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759783)
Do explain.
We're talking about one half of a game. Palko started over Orton. Haley made the QB switch in the second quarter. Orton dislocates a finger on the first play.

I'm not going to fault a guy because he doesn't want to put a guy with a serious injury on the field. And I'm not going to fault him if he didn't want to throw him into the fire a la Carson Palmer. I thought Orton should have started against Chicago. He didn't, but that's only one half of a game.

chiefzilla1501 07-22-2012 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759794)
I would have started him against Pittsburgh or at least brought him in in the 2nd half. A half assed offense with Orton > a full playbook with Palko.
Orton had only been with the team for about 2 days. He was signed 4 days before and took personal leave after he was signed.

This isn't the argument you want to use.

jd1020 07-22-2012 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8759801)
Orton had only been with the team for about 2 days. He was signed 4 days before and took personal leave after he was signed.

This isn't the argument you want to use.
You love for Haley is too cute.

BigMeatballDave 07-22-2012 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759805)
You love for Haley is too cute.
Dude, seriously?

DeezNutz 07-22-2012 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8759766)
Because the same people who screamed for 5 years that this team is worthless without a franchise QB are now the ones who say Haley is a lousy coach because he couldn't win without one.

I don't know if Haley was going to be a good coach or a great coach. I do know that he deserved better than a front office stubbornly clinging to a bad QB. And he deserved better than the petty micromanagement and head games that Pioli was pushing on him.
No, I think Haley was horrendous b/c he was one of the worse game day coaches that I've seen in a long time. Completely and hopelessly lost on Sundays, and this quality and the suck of Cassel are mutually exclusive.

chiefzilla1501 07-22-2012 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8759805)
You love for Haley is too cute.
That's always the best.

When you know you're dead wrong, go back to the attacks.

Admit you were wrong.

DeezNutz 07-22-2012 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8759801)
Orton had only been with the team for about 2 days. He was signed 4 days before and took personal leave after he was signed.

This isn't the argument you want to use.
Five set pass plays with Orton = exponentially better than anything involving Palko.

If you're remotely justifying Palko playing, your argument is laughably flawed. Hell, there's likely no way that Stanzi can be worse than Palko, and there was that option at the very least.

QB aside, Haley was and is a joke as a HC.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:34 AM.
Page 5 of 51 1234 5 678915 Last »
Show 80 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.