What were your thoughts when we aquired Cassell?

I'm not equating. The fact that he has surpassed wins and TD totals that people said he couldn't reach. That's the problem with calling people out for enjoying the rub and success

Of course they are the ones who bring it up.........because those QBs suck.

Yet every time one of them even had a halfway decent game the shoe was on the other foot.

He's headed for 27-7 ROFL

Oh I don't know... don't care about doing that and have not. The true haters have already been put in their place this season. Just pointing out that in each of our 3 losses, the defense gave away a shitload of points and yards. That if we do lose in the playoffs, I suspect it will be for this reason, primarily... as we have a precedent set for our losses.

Truth, it's a team game. As much as JC went off on Oakland, if guys were not doing there part, JC would not of had 5TD's and all of those yards.

At the same time, AS was not responsible for all the points scored the last 5 games, he was a part of it, just as the other players on the team doing their part.

Let me try it this way. Going into the season we have a pretty good idea what an established player's numbers will be, right? We expect Peyton Manning to put up MVP type numbers, we expect Megatron to put up elite numbers. We we don't know is if/when they have that bad game. When does Megatron drop one that hit him in the numbers? When does Peyton through that INT in OT? You can guess what a player is going to be on a season, but to forecast what a player will do in one paticular game against a team yet to be determined in unknown conditions is just crazy.

No, specific criteria for "going forward with Alex Smith as the franchise QB." The question that I was answering.

I assume Cochise's question about "going forward with him as a franchise QB" includes an extension and commitment to Alex Smith that pays him like an elite QB.

That whole post was about what it would take to jump on board with that type of extension.

If you ever said any negative about Alex ever and are now trying to say you "are surprised about how well he's playing", or something along those lines, gfy.

You are the very definition of a bandwagon wuss fan.

And if you swallow every cum guzzling move your favorite team makes without any critical thinking/analysis you are the very definition of a homer. Congrats you are now a Deb Deitweiler/Stevie Ray.

Better than a Debbie downer that shits on everybody's parade because their own life is crap. lighten up Francis it's football.

We just had the best game ever against the arm pit of the NFL

If only we had a QB to suck on JFC!

You might want to read the thread, then - because I said the same thing. I want the monkey off our backs, and I really don't care how it happens.

With that said, there's also nothing wrong with people wanting to see how that game plays out. I'm not sure why it's a problem, considering the flip side - where people used the first 9 games as some sort of, "yeah, told you so" when anyone with a set of eyes knows he played average ball at best and rode the defense to 9 wins.

There are a ton of reasons this debate will likely never end:

-Many of the people involved aren't even arguing the topic anymore, they are just arguing the poster themselves.

-Many are absolute extremists who refuse to consider any middle ground.

-The Niner trolls continue to stir the pot.

-There are plenty of jackasses who can't formulate a coherent argument on their own, so they resort to bringing up Geno Smith.

-Some can't even stick to their original argument, and want to have it both ways.

Example: First 9 weeks - "He's 9-0! All he does is win!"

When pointed out that the defense/ST did the majority of the heavy lifting, the boilerplate response? "It's a team game."

Fast-forward to present day. We're 2-3 over the last 5 games. Apparently, it's not a "team game" anymore.

Nothing is going to change here, which is why I've stayed out of the conversation for the most part, along with the fact that AS has played well the last couple of weeks. Let's hope we continue to see "Charger Game Alex" and not "First 9 Weeks" Alex.

And if after your critical thinking has failed you, and you refuse to change your stance because you are an ass hurt bitch?
What then?

I've shit on Fisher and Alex Smith. Loved most of the other moves except cutting a FB that was drafted in the 6th.