Jones has a degenerative neck injury that got him released from USC. Their doctors wouldn't clear him to play there. Huge risk pick despite his very good stats from Georgia.

You pussy.

You were so Anti-Geno. Stick to your guns. Don't be swayed by the NFL grade scale. You know you hate the guy. 10,000 other guys in this draft are better than him. I know, because you told me so. Don't cave in now.

It sucks that RunKC and BlackBob who "watch the tape!" and say that Geno looks just as raw as Jafatcus Russell will be reaping the same amount of satisfaction and joy on future Sundays as the rest of us. They'll even say stuff like, "I always liked Geno, but just knew he had a LOT to work on."

But then again, that is the very reason why we need Geno Smith. One of these days we're not going to have any need for labels. Gentile/Jew or Drafturbator/True Fan. It doesn't matter. We'll be like those happy-go-lucky Patriot fans that live here only not as douchebaggy. People will say, "Reid isn't that great of a coach, you're only good because you have Geno Smith." And we'll say, "Yeah. So?"

I'm not swayed by this. He still has a lot to prove and this is not a final big board. And if we do pick him, then I'll trust Reid and hope Geno makes me eat my words.

Since you seem to like this ranking so much, I wonder what your thoughts are about his pro comparison being Aaron Brooks?

This is ironic since you and Sac are the one's throwing the stats, extensive research and video of him?

And of course I'm going to cheer for Geno if he is a Chief. Why would someone NOT cheer for the QB of their favorite team to do well?

It would be no different for you if Glennon or Barkley was the QB. You wouldn't like the pick, but you would still cheer for them and hope for the best.

Aaron Brooks never completed over 60 percent of his passes in college.... 52% his final year with 15tds and 10 int. I dont see any comparison other than color.

Wait a minute "If he continues to improve his accuracy throughout 2012" This analysis was done last year...

Rankings are recent. Player profiles are not. Those will probably be updated in within a month in time for the combine.

gotcha. Still though, even last year the Aaron Brooks comp doesnt make much since.

They're comparing him to Aaron Brooks because Brooks was a lanky guy with decent mobility and a pretty good arm who could chuck it down the field.

Unfortunately Aaron Brooks had a terminal case of dumbass.

These mock drafts are hit and miss. NFLDraftCountdown had Geno going first last week and now Joeckel is 1st.

Its terrible. Cam is already claiming he's super man and shit sooo.. back to the drawing board.

I think we'll know alot after the Senior Bowl /Combine.
NOt that those are the end all be all for evaluation, but one thing is a bi-product of those is you get an idea of what teams think of certain players.

most of those reports are smokescreens however.

If after those two events he's not mocked in the 1st, I would have to consider another option at 1. Not because I want to though. I want the dude here.

If the Chiefs would end up not taking him at 1, and not trading back - they damn well better trade back into the 1st (or wherever they think he'll be/when they want him).

If he's mocked as, say, #10....piss on it - take him #1 overall.

Never said you wouldn't cheer for him. Currently around this place, though, you're doing a lot more shitting on him than you are cheering for him.

That's cool that you have a different preference for the Chiefs QB at #1. But if you say you like Geno, then your analysis of "he still has a lot to prove" is pretty disingenuous. You're not seeing the big picture.

Compare this to me. My #1 guy is Geno. I DO, however, like Tyler Wilson. At this point my only concern with Wilson is those two concussions. There's no "he has a lot to prove" bullshit. I already think he would make a good QB to take at #1 overall in most drafts. And the same goes for Barkley, only I prefer him even less to Wilson and Geno.

Only guy I'd be pretty ****ing pissed about drafting at 1 is Glennon. If we did that I might create a "Mother**** you Andy Reid" thread

Geno is the best fit for Reids offense. Gonna be the pick.

The senior bowl is a good setting for guy's like Mayock and Kiper to talk to scouts, GMs, and coaches. Half of it is smoke but, most of that smoke is from the mid round picks down. The smoke usually clears for the top 10 after the senior bowl. There usually aren't many suprises as far as who will go in the top 10. Where they go is the question.

I don't know man. I think Wilson is the best pick for Reid's offense. He is more mobile. He looks like a Favre or McNabb kind of prospect. I'm not saying he compares to those guys. I am just saying his style is much more like theirs than Geno's.

Geno's more accurate.

I'm not going to argue what I see in him because I have seen what happens to people that do.:) I like Wilson better and I'll leave it at that. Geno is a close second for me.

Fair enough.

Nothing wrong with liking Tyler Wilson. There is a lot to like about him. I like him too.

But.....

His concussion history may be enough to knock him out of the 1st round.

As someone who was on board for Wilson last year and throughout the early parts of this year, he's a solid prospect. I wanted the Chiefs to avoid Tannehill and get Wilson this year. Geno has shown this year he's a better QB, in addition to the film I've broken down last year. Geno>Wilson IMO.

In!

Have you compared 2011 Wilson to 2012 Geno? That's what I'm doing. I threw out Wilson's 2012 tape because he lost three receivers to the draft and his HC. Look how much the Saints and Brees struggled with Payton gone? It's the same for Wilson imo.

sweet...can i throw out any of Smith's games I don't like?

since QBs will never face adversity in the NFL, we shouldn't count those...

You can do whatever you want. :toast:

sweet...none of Smith's losses count

just because

****in' A.

by the way, if you throw out Smiths int...he threw 0 ints


pretty much unprecedented..draft him

If you throw out his incomplete passes he completed 100% of his passes!

Wait, where is that from?

The article that is referenced in the "Andy Reid's first priority: Quarterback"-thread.

I wanted to criticize for a long time but once I realized this was the best out there.....eh......*sigh*.........let's draft him.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/att...champipple.jpg

:toast:

Awww yeeeeaaahh Rausch is coming aboard :)

It will be awesome, dude. Just think of Geno as the black 0dd T0dd. He, too, can beat the crap out of small town bar bouncers!

Yes, I've seen all of their games from both 2012 and 2011 as well as a few from 2010 from both. To throw out Wilson's tape this year entirely is one of the dumbest things I've read on this board. ROFL

LMAO

**** yeah!

The Geno T0dd!1!

I want that on a sweaty wife beater...

The 10k rule isn't a hard limit or anything, but the bigger a thread gets, the slower it will be to load and the more of a load it puts on the server. 10k was a reasonable cutoff just because we probably don't have more than 15-20 threads of that size in total, but a really popular thread that's even smaller than that (such as the SOC thread) will cause the same kinds of issues. It's not a huge deal or anything, but they tend to cause the server to lag for a minute or two.

You think team's are going to mostly watch 2012 film of the Saints or, 2011-2010 on down next year?

Well, since they'll have a different playcaller, primarily they'll watch 2011. HOwever, they aren't going to completely throw out their film from last year, especially if they were evaluating individual players (example, evaluating players that will be UFAs)

It's beyond stupid to throw out Wilson's tape from this year. There are some solid things he did and some not so solid plays. To completely discount the negatives or both is just ****ing dumb.

If only we could do this with the federal budget

Well, guess you should have elected him then...

If it were just Wilson, it would be one thing.

But given the track record of Petrino QBs in the NFL, the 2012 tape HAS to be considered. It's a legit red flag.

pwnd

In the end, this is why taking Geno is a win-win for Clark.

are you kidding me?!

You want to see some nerd?~

http://i.imgur.com/habCG.jpg

And being an air-raid QB isn't a red flag?

Your post sucks.

Negged.

How about 2011 Geno Smith versus 2011 Wilson?

That seems fair too.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/OrUpzWQr0x4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qvrXu9Fsvpk?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/GB5OW9i7KHs?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

A huge misconception by fans of other teams, they think we have a terrible team. We have some serious talent on this team. All we need is an average to above average QB with a coaching staff that doesn't have anything to do with the patriots.

We get a QB this year and we contend for not only the division but the Lamar Hunt trophy

It's time to bring that shit back home.

Geno is going to be holding that trophy just like this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/ima.../136435096.jpg

Geno has the prettiest balls in this draft...he also throws some really nice passes

Offense sells tickets, defense wins championships.

We currently have 10 defenders that were drafted in the third round or earlier. And 6 first round picks on that side of the ball.

Berry 1
Flowers 2
DJ 1
Hali 1
Houston 3
Dorsey 1
Poe 1
Jackson 1
Arenas 2
Bailey

You know how to sell tickets?

Draft a quarterback that can make the offense exciting for once.

Dexter McCluster?

Hide your wife, hide your kids...Geno gonna rape errbody up in here

See what I did there? :)

What am I missing? All I see is normal Geno Smith.

Time to retire this cliche.

Defensive rankings of remaining teams: SF: 2; ATL: 12; NE: 15; BAL: 19
Offensive rankings of remaining teams: NE 1; SF 5; ATL 12; BAL 13

Offensive average: 8.25
Defensive average: 12

*Rankings are from DVOA, which adjusts for opponent

Last year defenses w/ weighted rankings of #18 and #30 played in the SB.

The quality is kinda dissapointing but Ill post anyway.

As requested, video of virtual Geno.

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/57670720" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen="" mozallowfullscreen="" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/57670721" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen="" mozallowfullscreen="" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

<iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/57670722" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen="" mozallowfullscreen="" allowfullscreen=""></iframe> .

god damn son

Quality that bad?

Thought I saw Winston holding.

No son.

Shit was straight MAD beats, yo.

Geno with some DOWN ass wizzes.

Makes all the throws. Even in Madden.

some of the dopest, phattest sky worms I ever SEEN HOMEY

THIS DAWG THA ILLEST

Got one more uploading now. Might make a couple more too.

ROFL @ sky worms

jayno what for you call G-Dawg's zingers sky worms, son?

CUS THAT SHIT DIRTAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY

LMAO

Then how about 2010? In a pro style set?

Yeah, you know he's just going to kick as much ass and then some.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/uNsvPiZAWZE?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ROFL

Same can be said for Wilson. He was still really good this year without Petrino and being surrounded by shit.

I and most i believe will not have a huge issue if Wilson is selected #1.

As for any other QB, despite my personal beliefs on Nassib and Dysert, I don't want them when Geno and WIlson are both available.

Yes he did.

But he doesn't have the accuracy and awareness that Geno does.

The guy takes some seriously bad shots - a lot. That scares me, especially at the next level.

And he can put the ball into the defense's hands when he has to press in a game - something Geno does not do.

I like Wilson. But there are questions about his game and feel for it.

And there's the concussion issue.

In the end, he's just not at the same level in terms of ceiling that Geno is. He's got a lot of very nice traits you look for, but there are a couple of things that worry you, especially at the next level.

This. Entire. ****ing. Post.

I would love to hear your take on Nassib, Sorter.

I really like that kid. I think he can be a good starter.