Royals Deal Huber to Pads
KANSAS CITY -- The Kansas City Royals traded first baseman/outfielder Justin Huber to the San Diego Padres in exchange for a player to be named. Huber, 25, has made brief appearances in the Majors with the Royals the past three seasons after being acquired from the New York Mets on July 30, 2004
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The guy never got a fair shot here.
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Not sure that will work for him. He needs to be in the AL in the DH spot.
That being said, great trade. No need for him to go to some AL team where he can rape us. |
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Oh No!!! Not Justin Huber!!
There goes my World Series dreams.... |
Great news, we were going to get nothing for him. Huber's a good kid, but he can't play the field and he's just a decent hitter. He had no shot of making the team with Butler and Shealy around.
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Also, the Royals officially named Bale as the #4 and Tomko (ugh) as the #5.
Davies and Hochevar to AAA and JDLR was DFA'd. |
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And thank god JDLR is DFA'ed. He sucked. |
Haha. What if Gayton Moore messed up. Emil hit a homer today for the A's and has looked good so far this year. Sweendog also with the A's now went 2-4. What if Huber turns into a Ryan Bruan type player?
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Poor Hochevar..... that guys is really looking like a waste of a draft pick.... especially a freakin first overall pick.
After dicking around reneging contracts for 2 straight years before going #1, sucking in the minors, and getting an honest shot this year, he still can't get it together.... Sheesh..... |
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Personally, I'd rather have him in Omaha, pitching every 5th day, instead of in KC at the pen, unsure when he's going to pitch.... |
yawn
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the royals did everything they could to keep up from succeeding
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By the time he starts his 4th game you'll calling for his head. |
I don't understand baseball trades. How do you trade for "a player to be named". I mean, doesn't that leave the door open for the other team to give you some scrub they were going to cut anyway?
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Gathwright must be a complete tool
no matter what he does he can't get the job |
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There are numerous guys from Hochevars draft already in the majors, some of them were high schoolers and they're already up... |
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I wonder why this team keeps giving Shealy chances when he frankly sucks...
Ah well we got Luke Hochevar coulda had Tim Lincecum... |
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When Emil was a full time player he was a doubles machine. Batted .287 and .288 with 17 and 15 homers respectively in those two seasons. Jose Guillen .290 and 23 homers and .283 and 24 homers in his last two full time seasons. I don't see much of a difference. |
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You are right about Guillen's fielding being better than Emil by a little, and I'm not disputing that Guillen is A LITTLE bit better than Brown...but not by a huge margin. And we paid a HUGE margin more to get him. Besides, when Guillen finds out he can't HGH it anymore after his suspension what then? |
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Frankly, his age isn't a big deal, because he doesn't have near the mileage on his arm that similar-aged pitchers do. |
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Andrew Miller.....
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Stick to football, bud. :) |
Emil was a butcher in left field. He also wasn't a terribly smart player (see base running in first game as an A). I'm thrilled he's gone. Good teams don't have Emil Brown roaming left field. I'm not completely sold on Guillen, but I'm willing to wait and see.
On Tomko....yes, he's not great and I'll probably hate him after four starts. But that can be said about most teams number five starter. Two years ago I hated our #1 starter (Elarton), so I suppose we've come pretty far. |
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And with that Miller thing I realized it after I typed it, my baseball knowledge isn't as strong I admit that. |
I think you guys are too quick to dump on Hochevar. Yes, he hasn't dominated yet, but last year was his first full year in the minors after taking a year off after college. He has ace stuff - it just might take another year or two for him to get back.
Plus, what's so great about Andrew Miller? He had a 5.63 ERA in the majors and Detroit loved him so much they traded him this offseason. I'll give you Lincecum, but at the time of the draft there were major questions on if he would hold up due to his small size, and the verdict is still out on that. |
Andrew Miller was still in a trade that netted them one of the best players in the league.
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Andrew Miller has proven nothing yet. |
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BTW,
Emily Clemente was horrible in the OF. It looked like he didn't care to be playing the field at all. Guillen might have cost a lot more, but it was a relatively short deal (3 years) and he actually appears to care about his defense. |
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Royals fans of all people should know better than to rush pitching prospects. We go through this every year... "Bring up Gordon!" "Bring up Teahen!" "Bring up Greinke!" Then when we have them basically skip AAA and they struggle, they were "rushed". Yet next spring, it's the same thing. Next year, it'll be someone else. What is it possibly going to hurt to give him another 10 starts or so in AAA. Who cares what the other pitchers in that draft are doing, what sensible person would evaluate an athlete at someone else's pace....
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What does that matter? How did he do in the majors? Ryan Sims played a few seasons in the NFL too. Who cares? |
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ROFLROFL OK Mecca. Now you are an expert on gymnastics too. Yep, I'm sure because his dad was a gymnast, he won't get hurt. |
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Anyone who knows anything about the human body knows that if you are more flexible you are less likely to suffer a serious injury.....
It's why are you are suppose to stretch before and after workouts..... |
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So because his dad was a gymnast, he is less likely to get injured. |
Um he's less likely because growing up doing gymnastics and the exercises that go with do make you more flexible.
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And Sims is a bad analogy since the NFL doesn't exactly have a minor leagues. Outside of NFL Europe so to speak. |
Say what you want about Miller but he was one of the main components to a deal that netted them one of the best players in baseball.....that counts for something.
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The Marlins hit time and time and time, they know what they're doing.
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He was considered MLB quality out of high school. He went in the first round in 05(40th overall) which he reneged the contract, and first overall in 06. He has yet to begin to live up to the players drafted around him in the 05 or 06 class. I realize that pitchers are a different breed, and sometimes need specific development/patience/opportunities, but he still should be well above where he is now. The Royals have too much invested in him to give up on him, but as a fan I want to see more from a player of his talent who has been given opportunities to succeed. I'm not giving up on him, but I think he should be much farther along. |
I'm perfectly fine letting Hochever work most of the season in AAA, no rushing the prospects....
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OK Mecca. Point taken. All things Kansas City sucks. Andrew Miller will win the Cy Young in the NL this year, and Lincecum will be the most durable pitcher ever because his dad was a gymnast. Meanwhile, the Royals will fall deeper into a hole because Hochevar is in the minors to start the year |
My guess is Hochevar isn't in Omaha for very long. He was the best pitcher on the staff this spring.
That Ramirez kid they picked up looks good if he's over his elbow problems. Speculation seems to be that de la Rosa is going to be the 'player to be named later' which is why they sent him down. At least that's what I heard a few hours ago. As for Huber, they managed to get something for him, which is probably a good thing since it wasn't too likely he was ever making the Royals roster. |
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He threw roughly 20 innings in Indy ball in May before the 2005 June Draft, and then threw 15 innings in low A at the end of the year once he signed his contract. His situation is unique compared to the other top prospects in his class, and I'm not ready to throw him under the bus because it makes sense he would be a bit rusty. Also, I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say he reneged on a pro contract in 2002. He didn't sign the contract, and was a flier pick because he had told scouts he was going to college. That happens all the time to high school players. Not signing a contract is not the same as "reneging". Quote:
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Teahan is gonna break out someday!! ROFL |
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Hes never going to be a superstar. He is what he is: Avg: 270-290 HR's: 10-20 RBIs: 60-80 Thats probably his ceiling.... |
post #67 wins the thread
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One of these things is not like the other... OBP SLG .353 .460 .300 .347 Not to mention he couldn't catch a cold. |
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Hochevar's rookie deal was a 4-year major league contract (the Royals first IIRC), so there's no point in leaving him in Omaha to save service time. The clock's already been running for two years...
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MLB teams still retain the rights to every single kid drafted for their first six years of pro ball. |
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