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Ace Gunner 09-12-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8904092)
The early Floyd stuff isn't prog, it's psychedelia.


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htismaqe 09-12-2012 11:41 AM

I think the distinction, at least in my mind, is in the METHOD.

Prog rock produces increasingly complex and interesting ideas through application of musical theory and technique.

Syd Barret produced increasingly complex and interesting ideas in a completely random, non-technical way, much like other psychedelic songwriters at the time.

Rausch 09-12-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8904159)

Syd Barret produced increasingly complex and interesting ideas in a completely random, non-technical way, much like other psychedelic songwriters at the time.

The rest of the Floyd though were very technical and got their hands on any and every piece of technology they could.

Black Bob 09-12-2012 11:43 AM

Pink Floyd for sure. I am Rushed out...

Reaper16 09-12-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8904159)
I think the distinction, at least in my mind, is in the METHOD.

Prog rock produces increasingly complex and interesting ideas through application of musical theory and technique.

Syd Barret produced increasingly complex and interesting ideas in a completely random, non-technical way, much like other psychedelic songwriters at the time.

It's easy to see why Pink Floyd transitioned to being a progressive rock band, though. Psychedelia could basically be considered proto-prog much in the same way that Led Zepplin plays a sort of proto-metal.

htismaqe 09-12-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8904167)
The rest of the Floyd though were very technical and got their hands on any and every piece of technology they could.

That's why I specifically said the EARLY Floyd stuff really can't be considered prog...

htismaqe 09-12-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8904185)
It's easy to see why Pink Floyd transitioned to being a progressive rock band, though. Psychedelia could basically be considered proto-prog much in the same way that Led Zepplin plays a sort of proto-metal.

I can agree with that.

You just have to be careful with strict definitions, otherwise someone gets the impression that Boston is "progressive rock". :D

Bugeater 09-12-2012 12:16 PM

How is Queensryche even in the conversation?

Frazod 09-12-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8904332)
How is Queensryche even in the conversation?

They're better than ****ing Rush.

Frosty 09-12-2012 12:24 PM

That top 100 list has Styx and Primus on it. I'm not enough into arguing over what is and isn't prog rock to know for sure but those two wouldn't have been the first to spring to mind (the Beatles either).

Reaper16 09-12-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 8904332)
How is Queensryche even in the conversation?

I dunno. They aren't as legendary or as popular.

That said, they have two albums that are quite good (The Warning and Empire), a self-titled EP that is GREAT, and their album Operation: Mindcrime might just be the very best rock album of the 1980's.

htismaqe 09-12-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 8904376)
their album Operation: Mindcrime might just be the very best rock album of the 1980's.

Whoa, whoa, whoa...hold up...

Reaper16 09-12-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8904384)
Whoa, whoa, whoa...hold up...

It's absolutely in the conversation, IMO. It's a near-flawless album.

Pablo 09-12-2012 12:47 PM

Pink Floyd by a lot.

tooge 09-12-2012 12:53 PM

three totally different bands with three totally different sounds. Sitting around a campfire after midnight is Pink Floyd time. Cruisin to a fishin trip is Rush time, workin out is Queensryche time.


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