Potential top pick Jarvis Jones enters NFL draft
 

Potential top pick Jarvis Jones enters NFL draft

If we go 4-3 it would be almost worth taking this guy over a QB since Hali would become a DE. Almost.

I wish clowney could go pro

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really?

we almost need a lb more than a QB?

LMAO. Unbelievable.

He can't. You have to be 3 years removed from your senior year in high school.

Don't worry, we can trade for Alex Smith and get that kid from Louisville next year, or draft the kid with the neck in the fifth!

Sorry I read that as would.... Clearly you said could, my bad.

Jarvis Jones is going to play 3-4 OLB in the pros.

What's worse is that he suggests we should take Jones if we're going to a 4-3.

Jones is a 3-4 OLB in the NFL.

Reid will have a plan. I trust him with our QB situation, bringing in three new guys.

If Jarvis Jones were Clowney, I might care.

As it is, he's no better an OLB prospect than Smith is a QB prospect and we need the QB significantly more.

if we aren't taking a QB at 1 (which I think is reeruned), I'd rather have Jones than T'eo etc.

JFC people, we don;t even have a DC yet or know WHAT defense we will even be playing in.

You don't draft people that doesn't fit your scheme.

Dude.....Jones, DJ and Houston would be a terror-trio at LB

:clap:

Jarvis Jones has no position in a 4-3.

In a 3-4, overkill.

In a 4-3, none of them really fit.

J Jones is going to be the #1 overall pick. I think it's a lock that he will be no less than the 3rd overall pick. His attitude and approach to the game are unparalleled.

LMAO

Maybe Detroit or Jacksonville will fall in love with him and overpay to move up

ROFL

After the combine, he'll probably fall to the late 1st.

Damontre Moore is a superior prospect in nearly every way.

Chiefs are drafting a QB at #1 overall all day but really, this defense needs much more help at the Dline position than LB. I don't believe you can be an elite defense without some strong Dline play and now we only have Poe who might become great and nothing else much good.

That being said, of course if you see Jones as Von Miller, you take him.

I like Moore a lot...5 star bluechip. I'm hearing that Detroit is going to draft Moore with their 1st pick.

Guy who won't be drafted by the Chiefs enters NFL draf

Maybe we can swap 2nd rounders with Jacksonville and move down and take him! /Pioli

FYP

He's legit. He and Lotulelei are the only defensive guys truly worth the #1 pick.

NO THANKS.

It is pete after all.

I want to draft Geno and then find some kid with the last name Wesson as a WR or draft a WR and make him change his last name to Wesson. BADASS duo right there.

Dude will be lucky to still be playing football after his rookie contract. I wouldn't be shocked to see him drop out of the top 20

Has Moore declared?

I really cooled on Jones as the season progressed. He's just way too easy to neutralize by running right at him.

Yep.

And his back issues aren't gonna go away...the combination of those two factors makes him a very risky pick high in the draft.

can he play QB

Then yeah, he's a better prospect than Jones as well.

Jarvis is a similar prospect to Coples and should probably go at around the same spot. I think Coples has more upside than Jones, but Jones has less of an attitude issue (though more of an injury risk).

Clowney might make me rethink QB.

Moore is the best defensive prospect in this draft. He has great burst and quickness at the snap...that's an expensive skill in the NFL.

He's a true sophomore. He can't declare.

Yep. He's gonna be a stud.

yeah, our problem for the last 30 years has been a failure to address the position of LB...


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Well I'll say this. If the Chiefs were to mess this up and somehow not draft QB #1, might as well be this guy.

Better that some other options I've heard.

Not really. He's at best the 2nd-best pass rusher in the draft, can really only play 3-4 OLB, and has spinal stenosis.

He's one of the worst options at #1 overall actually.

If they don't draft a QB....then it will be because they draft Moore. And that's only going to happen if they go back to the 4-3 and they don't think that Hali and Houston can be bookends.

I didn't know about his spinal issues. That's definitely a factor.

I suppose I was speaking more towards the fact that I'd rather take a pass rusher vs a LT or MLB but obviously health concerns are important.

Hopefully will be a moot point and we'll just take the best QB.

If it were me and we are sticking with a 34, we need pass rushers on the dline. Not at OLB, we have those.

I would love Jones if we didn't have Hali and Houston. Not a position of need. Frankly with the #1 pick, it has to be QB or at worst LT.

With new Gm's and HC's. We don't currently have a QB worth keeping on the roster and even if we had an average one, it would be an uphill battle for him to stick around. It's just the way things go.

So, currently no QB, new HC, GM etc, and the first overall pick.

It's really not that hard to put two and tow together.

While I hate the thought of taking a LT so high, I'd be a lot more willing to listen to it if there was a great LT in this draft. There isn't.

Joeckel is about the 5th-best tackle in the last 4 or 5 years.

Again, if we want a pass rusher, it should be Moore.

Jones isn't worth the #1 overall pick.

It just depends really. Even if there were a Jake Long, look how that worked out for the Phins.

I realize you can't just throw your rookie QB to the wolves, but you also have to get the rookie QB to start.


It's pretty easy. Re Sign Albert. Done.

Thats not as crazy as it looks at first glance when you consider the stuff the professional experts are saying about Geno Smith. NFL.com is comparing Geno to Jason Campbell. Chiefs might as well just take Jones #1 and then trade for Jason Campbell. Lookit the NFL.com QB Analysis:

NOT THE ANSWER: Teams looking to answer their QB question aren't going to find one in the 2013 draft

By Bucky Brooks
Analyst, NFL.com and NFL Network
Published: Jan. 2, 2013

1) Geno Smith, West Virginia

Smith faltered down the stretch against the tougher defenses of the Big 12; scouts started to have concerns about his ability to find his secondary options in the route progression when opponents take away his primary receiver with blanket coverage. He struggled to consistently identify the open receiver in games against Oklahoma, Kansas State and Texas Tech, a trend that continued in the New Era Pinstripe Bowl against Syracuse. Although Smith completed 66.7 percent of his passes with two touchdowns and zero interceptions, he was sacked three times and repeatedly looked confused when the Orange took away his No. 1 option. As a result, Syracuse blew out West Virginia, 38-14.

Pro comparison: Jason Campbell

That's laughable. Geno might not work out in the NFL but he's nothing like Jason Campbell.

This guy is pretty good.

Maybe he's not a fit for us because of what we have at OLBer, but still, this guy is a talent. Some team will be happy to have him in the top 5/top 3/maybe even #1 overall (if we can trade the #1 pick for 2 or 3 and still get our QB, who gives a shit. This guy will be coveted, that could help in our favor)

Ease up on the kid... once he gets a little NFL experience under his belt, he could be....

He is a good player, but he's probably not the best pass rusher int he draft plus he has a fairly big medical concern.

The first overall pick should be spent on a pick that addresses why you have the worst record to begin with.


No other position put us where we are now more than QB and better be addressed first and foremost.

He's gonna drop after the combine medicals.

Marcus McNeil fell all the way to the 2nd round.

He's no Jamarcus Russell, that's for sure.

Can we ban any stupid mother****er that throws up BUCKY ****ING BROOKS from now on?

Soon as I can think up a snappy comeback, you'll be sorry... you'll be hurtin' bad!

Arrowhead should be erased from history if we get another retread QB.

J Jones work ethic and stamina are second to none. Also, it's extremely difficult to measure desire and drive. There have been tons of guys with a lot of talent who have fallen flat on their faces. JJ is another Von Miller and guys who have the ability AND desire to work...they become legendary.

Well, somebody is gonna get a "legendary" player in the late 1st round then...

NOT ADVOCATING THIS IN THE LEAST, BUT...

How would Demontre Moore do as an undersized DE in a 1-gap 3-4 defense? He looks like he's got the height and the long arms... just not sure if he has the low center of gravity.

Remember, JJ Watt was a tad oversized coming out of Wisconsin as a 4-3 DE. He's been balls**** amazing as a 3-4 guy.

Another thing that, IMO, advocates taking a QB first overall, is for every other positional guy you bring up, there is someone later in the draft who fits what we would need from his spot.

TEo? Yeah Skov is perfect beside DJ. Would Teo be better? Maybe. But you can get the best QB prospect available and still get a great ILB.


Hell, I guess same can be said about QB by some, but I think the difference between Geno and Wilson to the next QB group is too big to pass over.

ESPN just said Chiefs should draft him.

smh

I actually said this to a friends patient today. We were talking Chiefs and he said "yeah but we get the first pick in a year where we need a QB and there isnt' a Luck available".

I hit him back with a "Yeah we have the overall first pick, in a normal draft year, the same kinda year where Aaron Rodgers, Matt Stafford, etc were drafted".


He said, yeah I guess.

FYI, if it wasn't obvious before, everybody now knows that Narrow Head is BlackBob...

I just think Moore is a stud. A good coach could find a place to use him.

Like we've said, alot lately.


With new Gm's and HC's come new QB's. Add to that having hte first overall pick, it isn't hard to figure out what is likely to happen.

I think he has all of the attributes at this point. I also think that he goes much higher than late 1st round.

So the spinal stenosis that had him almost quit football is ?

Marcus McNeil was a potential top 10 LT with spinal stenosis.

He went to the combine and then got drafted in the 2nd round.

"Hey, Dr. O.City! How about them Chiefs?"

"Oh, it's good Patient BlackBob. I can't wait until they draft a QB in the first"

"Ohh, really? Haven't you heard? There really aren't any good QBs in this draft. Kind of disappointing really. Maybe we can trade down for extra picks."

"Okay... so we're doing your root canal without an anesthetic, today, right? Marvelous."

"Hey! Wait!" *DRIIIILLLLL*

Yeah, eh, not ideal.

Jones single handily destroyed Mizzou.