Is Aqib Talib the best DB in the NFL history?
 

Been watching a ton of NFL this season and there really doesn't seem to be a better NFL defensive secondary player than Aqib Talib.

Wish we could get our hands on him.

He's still a ****ing idiot.

Nah, he sucks dick.

Who cares? I'm more concerned with talent.

And from what I saw today no one is at the same level.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...12/sherman.jpg


And its not even that close.......

love the Sherman comparison.

props

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Is Aqib Talib the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Patriots&amp;src=hash">#Patriots</a>&#39; first true shutdown corner since Asante Samuel? <a href="http://t.co/5xjUNHRUcJ">http://t.co/5xjUNHRUcJ</a></p>&mdash; Boston Globe Sports (@BGlobeSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGlobeSports/statuses/384311730631106560">September 29, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Probably Sherman.

I don't know what Revis has done since the injury, but if he's good to go, he's probably still on top.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>He&#39;s the best at his position right now&quot;<a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport">@BleacherReport</a>: Aqib Talib... <a href="http://t.co/YABdbXUJlZ">pic.twitter.com/YABdbXUJlZ</a>&quot;</p>&mdash; Levan Reid (@LevanReid) <a href="https://twitter.com/LevanReid/statuses/384556677355143168">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>LMFAO RT <a href="https://twitter.com/BrockOgami">@BrockOgami</a>: 70% of the earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Aqib Talib</p>&mdash; The Chill God (@MikeStayChillin) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeStayChillin/statuses/384558739048501248">September 30, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Im supposed to hate the guy, but I just cant. He is just lock down. Tight ends, receivers.......he covers em all.

Talib is nice, so im not insulting him. But Sherman is just on another planet.

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Love Sherman.

But when the game is prime I need to see him come through.

Talib has the throne as of now.


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Well, true.

Does what Sherman did today count?

Cool so you do what ESPN does and you fall in love with players after a game or two... That's sweet.

Definitely. Amazing play he made.

Im going to guess and GUESSING that Bambi is probably a JAYHAWKS fan.

Just trying to put two and two together.

Talib, Jayhawk, finding success.

Defensive backs come and go quick in the NFL. Revis, Sherman....maybe Peterson someday.

Cornerback has to be the most pressure filled position in all of sport.

It's amazing what these guys do.

Sherman has done it for exactly one season...lets not act like he's some 10 yr. All Pro every year some sort of vet.

You wouldn't want him over ANY of our defensive backfield?

No, he isn't he best. That doesn't take anything away from him, though. He's damn good. I wish we had him.

Well, as Im a browns fan first, KC supporter second, I can safely say that Yes, I would take Talib over Chris Owens, or Buster Skine. I can also say that no I would not take him over Joe Haden.

To the Chiefs, I think he would fit in amazingly well in the Sutton scheme. But you wont get me to tell you of which he would start over. I have too much respect for the job that Flowers, and Sean Smith have done.

And by the way. Im not detracting from Talib. I just know how it is to support a player from a college team you liked. I think Talib has all the talent in the world, always has.

I thought this was an educational friendly football discussion, not whether or not I would take him.

hell, ANYONE COULD OF HAD HIM. No one made him an offer.

Incorrect.

Sherman has been a beast this going on his 3rd year.

He was a complete menace in 2011, just last year, he destroyed everyone he faced.

This year, more of the same.

just because ESPN wasn't talking about him in 2011. People knew about him.

Oh ok....TWO years....

not bad for a guy who has been in the league for just over two years lol.

Well he's making 4.8 this year.

I would bet he'll be in the 8-9 per with a multi year deal once next year begins.

It's hard to make the Joe Haden comparison with the Brown never playing in primetime. But it should be interesting going forward.

Look who he's playing around and the scheme...think he's the same player if he's in Jacksonville?

He's good but people need to chill out...

HA. Enjoy Thursday night......

Bills, and Stevie Johnson, vs Joe Haden.....

Joe Haden absolutely made Aj Green irrelevant today......

That's a good point. But which came first? The chicken or the egg?

Both Browner, Earl Thomas, and Richard Sherman all came in within one year of each other. Earl being in the 2010 draft, Sherman in the 5th round of 2011, and Browner signed from Canada.

That's a good point.....

I'll look forward to it. I'd be interested in seeing what the Browns have been up to.

I pull for them over Cinci.

Only if he throws another Coon-O-Ween party....million dollar talent....two cent brain...which means he should self destruct soon.

http://www.pitch.com/binary/e298/131...oon-o-ween.jpg

I was shocked. After what Cinci did to the packers, I thought they were going to savagely rape my Brownies. But, the defense for the Browns, is very Chief esque.

It's one of those games where you're like... "well, i guess the Chiefs have just the Broncos and Pats to worry about moving forward."

I thought Cinci was a threat but after today I'm not so sure.

ouch...

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Your dumbassery is well-documented here.

I'll take Sherman.

"I served with Marcus Cooper. I knew Marcus Cooper. Marcus Cooper was a friend of mine. Aqib, you're no Marcus Cooper."

~ Tysyn Hartman ~

Im a KU fan and everything but Sherman is quite noticeably better than Talib. There is probably a handful of CBs right now better than Talib bit he certainly has came a long way and risen to the top.

Talib still on the herb wagon?

I'd say he's playing the best ball of his career for sure. Talib is definitely in the mix as the best cover corner in the league, IMO.

Creepy beaker obsession is creepy

How deep do you think the Yankees will go in the playoffs this year?

Talib's a good corner, especially in press man, but he's not the best in the NFL. Sherman, Peterson and Revis (when he's healthy) are probably the top three.

wasnt Talib sitting on the open market this offseason and nobody wanted him so he upped for 1 year?

lol

Thanks for the opinions everyone. Very interesting to see how this guy ranks in light of what we witnessed last night.

Incredible one way or another.

Talib certainly has upped his game, but he's still a notch below Sherman and Revis.

He's in the top 5 for sure, but it's Sherman, and the other 4.

Stop, guys.

Stop, or he and his mom will shoot.

Throw Patrick Peterson in the argument as well.

Talib is very, very good. But he's not the best CB in the league. At least not yet. And what is the deal with him introducing himself as from north Dallas something? :cuss:

He dominated Julio Jones. Therefore Big 12 > SEC. /SaulIdiot

I think he's top 5, certainly, but would definitely take Sherman and, if healthy, Revis over him, not much doubt about it.

Don't remember saying anything like that...of course Julio was "dominated" to the tune of 108 yards receiving plus another 38 on a PI call. 146 combined yards for Jones...translates to 2,336 yards over a full season...not bad for being dominated.

Not all of that was on Talib. Not like Talib had him the whole game.

In fact, Talib did NOT have him on the long bomb down the left sideline during the final drive. That was Dennard/McCourty.

Looked to me like Talib handled him great WHEN he was on him.

The Patriots were also keeping a safety above Jones for almost the entire game. It was reminiscent of how they defended Fitzgerald last season.

wow. I applaud the terribleness of this post. :clap:

Saul is a moron who obviously didn't watch the game or see Julio's 50 yarder late was not even against Talib. Don't bother explaining details to him.

So...you're trying to bolster your contention that Talib dominated Jones by saying that Talib wasn't matched up against Jones?

McGrath would own him.

I'm not sure it's an SEC thing but there does seem to be a tread of severely underperforming players from the SEC recently.

Tebow, Eli Manning, AJ Green, Julio Jones.

While most of the big stars: Adrian Peterson, Jamaal Charles, Aaron Rodgers, Calvin Johnson, Tom Brady, Russel Wilson etc seem to be coming from the Big 12, Pac 10 and Big 10...

NBC posted a graphic on it. I believe Jones was targeted 8 times while Talib was covering him, for 1 completion and 1 INT.

This is going to be fun...

NFL starting QBs from the SEC:

Peyton Manning
Eli Manning
Jay Cutler
Blaine Gabbert
Cam Newton
Ryan Tannehill
Matt Stafford

7 out of 14 SEC teams have a starting QB in the NFL right now.

QB rankings for SEC QBs:
1
6
8
12
15
29
35

QB rankings for Big 1? QBs:
17
26
27
30
31
33

Top 100 players in the NFL from the SEC: 21 (including 5 of the top 10)

Http://nfl.com/top100/2013

Two of the top 3 rushers in the NFL are from the Big 12.

The highest ranked SEC running back is #9.

Maybe you can get a QB in the top half of the NFL some day. Not likely when Sam Bradford is the most accomplished NFL QB the entire conference has ever produced.

Not sure where you get your numbers. Ryan Tannehill is the #9 ranked QB in the NFL.

Same as the highest ranked RB from the SEC.

Again, you're wasting time explaining facts to a moron. Don't.

ESPN true QB ratings

Congrats on having 2 running backs off to good starts. Too bad their teams aren't winning.

I don't root for conference affiliation. You've got that department covered.

I love it. Big 1? fans love to talk shit on the SEC. After inevitably getting their asses handed to them, they always retreat behind the "I don't care about conference affiliation" line.

Sherman >>>>>>>>> Talib.

Yes, I'm biased because Sherman is my favorite player in the league right now, but it's also true. Notice how the only people disagreeing are the two dumbest KU homers on this website.

Talib is a very solid Corner. You could certainly make the case that he is one of the best CBs in the league who has never been in the Pro Bowl.

The original post that started this was made by PB making a joke at your expense. We all know you spend the year preparing for the College Football Conference All Star Game which never comes.

True. Either him or Richard Sherman.

I'll take the guy who was an All-pro. So he's not the best CB that hasn't been to a Pro Bowl...but he's one of the best. Top five for sure.

What is so hard to understand about "when Talib was on him, he pretty much completely shut him down"?

I have a question. Can you claim guys are sec guys when in college their schools were BIG 12 GUYS?

Blaine Gabbert and Tannenhil were both in the Big 12 when they were in college.....

You rip me for liking alex smith, but you like Lebron James, you like Richard Sherman.....

How is that any different than me liking Alex Smith? lol

Both those QBs were and still are Big 12 QBs. They were recruited to and played their entire career in the Big 12.

When speaking of the Big 12 Tannehil makes the conference look good. Gabbert makes you feel embarrassed but you have to claim both yes.

It's not hard to understand. Guarding a guy well for only a few plays is not the same as dominating someone, though.

They aren't "SEC guys", but they are from schools that are in the SEC. You can't really say that the Big 12 puts a bunch of QBs in the NFL when Gabbert, Tannehill, Daniel, and Smith all played for programs that aren't in the Big 12 anymore.

The SEC is loaded with programs that put QBs in the NFL. Those programs include Mizzou and aTm. The Big 12 has never produced even an average NFL QB. Steve Balboni thinks that's an embarrassment.

I see.

Off Topic, but can you imagine how good Tommy Frazier would of been had he came out in this era?

I was trying to think of a good big 12 qb. You made a good point, although, I don't necessarily agree with your logic, I can see your point