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The Bad Guy 01-16-2013 08:42 AM

According to Bill Maas...New OLine coach is...
 
Andy Heck. Surprising because his name was never floated around.

ChiefMojo 01-16-2013 08:46 AM

http://www.jaguars.com/team/coaches/...3-bb4550b47327

milkman 01-16-2013 08:46 AM

The Jags have been irrelevant for so long, I have never paid any attention to them.

How have the O-Lines performed?

Marco Polo 01-16-2013 08:47 AM

Biography

Andy Heck is a veteran of 20<SUP> </SUP>seasons in the NFL, with a career that includes 12 years as a player and eight in coaching. This is Heck’s seventh season as the Jaguars’ offensive line coach and his ninth season on the Jaguars staff.

Heck joined the Jaguars coaching staff on February 9, 2004 as the offensive assistant/assistant offensive line coach. He spent the 2005 season as Jaguars assistant offensive line coach before being promoted to offensive line coach in 2006.

The Jaguars offensive line in 2011 paved the way for Maurice Jones-Drew to win the NFL rushing title with 1,606 rushing yards, which also broke Fred Taylor’s franchise single-season rushing record. Key to Jones-Drew’s success has been the presence of veteran center Brad Meester. In 2011 Meester became the first player to play 12 seasons for the Jaguars, and he eclipsed the franchise record for career games played with 177.

In 2010 the Jaguars boasted the third-ranked rushing offense in the NFL, averaging 149.7 yards per game including a 4.7-yards-per-carry average that ranked fifth in the league. The team’s 2,395 rushing yards were the second-most in team history, and this was achieved despite having only two offensive linemen – Meester and Uche Nwaneri – starting all 16 games.

In 2009 Heck was the beneficiary of the Jaguars’ first two draft choices being offensive tackles. Charged with integrating the two promising rookies into the lineup, Heck led Eugene Monroe to make 13 starts at left tackle while Eben Britton started 15 games at right tackle. The two rookies’ appearance in the opening day starting lineup distinguished them as the first pair of rookie tackles to start an opener since 1982 when Luis Sharpe and Tootie Robbins started for the St. Louis Cardinals.

In 2008 the Jaguars line was decimated at the outset when starting guards Maurice Williams and Vince Manuwai were lost to season-ending injuries on opening day. Meester also missed the first six games of that season with a biceps injury before joining the lineup.

Under Heck the line paved the way in 2006 and 2007 to the two highest single-season rushing totals in franchise history to date, and two of the three lowest sack totals. The Jaguars set the single-season franchise-record for rushing yards (2,541) in 2006 including a franchise-record 375 yards against Indianapolis, and allowed only 30 sacks, the second-fewest in team history. In 2007 the line led the way for 2,391 rushing yards (149.4), the most in the AFC and second-highest total in the NFL, and the team allowed only 31 sacks, the third-fewest in franchise history.

Prior to joining the Jaguars Heck served three seasons on the University of Virginia coaching staff, the first two seasons as a graduate assistant and the final year as tight ends coach. He tutored All-America tight end Heath Miller, who set numerous Atlantic Coast Conference tight end records for receiving and scoring. Miller was a first-round pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2005.

Prior to joining the Virginia staff, Heck played in the NFL for 12 seasons (1989-2000) as a standout offensive lineman. He finished his playing career with the Washington Redskins, where he played for two seasons. As the starting left tackle in 1999 he blocked for an offense that ranked second in the NFL. From 1994 to 1998 Heck was a five-year starter for the Chicago Bears. In 1995, he gave up no sacks as part of an offensive line that yielded the fewest sacks in the NFL.

Heck was drafted in the first round (15th overall) by the Seattle Seahawks, where he was a unanimous All-Rookie selection in 1989. A starter for all five years with the Seahawks, he played three seasons without missing a snap.

Heck's fifth-grade teacher, Marylou Winkler of Annandale, Va., was named NFL Teacher of the Year in January of 1994, after being nominated by Heck. She received $5,000 from the NFL and the school received a $10,000 scholarship in both of their names.
A 1989 graduate of Notre Dame, Heck received a bachelor's degree in American studies. A first-team All-America selection, he co-captained the 1988 national championship team that finished 12-0. Heck was a tight end for his first three seasons at Notre Dame before moving to tackle in spring drills in his senior season.

Heck was born January 1, 1967, in Fargo, North Dakota. He and his wife, Jennifer, have four children: Jonathan, Charlie, Molly and Evelyn, and live in Ponte Vedra Beach.

COACHING BACKGROUND: Virginia 2001-03, Jacksonville Jaguars 2004-12.

The Bad Guy 01-16-2013 08:49 AM

Been there since 2006. Seems to always produce a solid run game.

This staff sans the dc is just excellent.

ChiefMojo 01-16-2013 08:51 AM

We know the Jags have ran the ball very well but they have been meh due to QB play since Burnell.

Three7s 01-16-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9323661)
Been there since 2006. Seems to always produce a solid run game.

This staff sans the dc is just excellent.

Unfortunately, the DC is the most important part of an Andy Reid based coaching staff. I hope he does better here.

Phobia 01-16-2013 08:55 AM

I will just wait. I'm not saying Bill Maas is untrustworthy, I'm just saying I trust other people a lot more.

KCUnited 01-16-2013 08:58 AM

Thought he said "hand me X".

tomahawk kid 01-16-2013 08:58 AM

Wonder if Sparano just wanted too much $$$?

Strongside 01-16-2013 09:09 AM

Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

bsp4444 01-16-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9323681)
I will just wait. I'm not saying Bill Maas is untrustworthy, I'm just saying I trust other people a lot more.

This.

Deberg_1990 01-16-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

Its too bad this guy isnt coaching so we could cut him a nice deal for Cassel.

BoneKrusher 01-16-2013 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

maybe pee wee Football.

ChiTown 01-16-2013 09:17 AM

I would actually like that hire a lot.

Coogs 01-16-2013 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

I swear to God we are going to have to pull the "Decleration on Independence" Thread out of the Hall of Classics and keep relevant until this guy is gone from our team.

Anyone who suggeests he should be out QB should immediately be forwarded a copy of the OP. That includes new coaches and FO hires.

htismaqe 01-16-2013 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

:facepalm:

htismaqe 01-16-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9323654)
The Jags have been irrelevant for so long, I have never paid any attention to them.

How have the O-Lines performed?

Hard to tell. They have some high draft picks on that line too.

Their QB play is just as bad as ours though.

RUSH 01-16-2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9323681)
I will just wait. I'm not saying Bill Maas is untrustworthy, I'm just saying I trust other people a lot more.

Alex Marvez from fox sports is reporting it as well.

ChiefMojo 01-16-2013 09:41 AM

Heck looks like a ZBS coach btw.

ILChief 01-16-2013 09:42 AM

So Cassel has gotten two coaches and a GM fired in four years and Andy Reid, who has freedom to do pretty much whatever he wants, is gonna keep him? No way


It's nice to know I can ignore anything Gil a Brandt says

htismaqe 01-16-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9323786)
Heck looks like a ZBS coach btw.

Fine with me. I like that scheme.

siberian khatru 01-16-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.


I'd rather listen to what Tex Schramm has to say. And he's dead.

Rausch 01-16-2013 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

After watching him for 4 years there is absolutely nothing about his physical ability that leads me to believe he should have ever even been a b/u in this league.

I hear he's a great guy, great teammate, wonderful person. I hope the rest of his life outside of football is blessed.

That said this man is DREADFUL in every area when it comes to being an NFL QB...

FringeNC 01-16-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

The Alzheimer's therapy is NOT working.

Strongside 01-16-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9323824)
The Alzheimer's therapy is NOT working.

Time to try euthenasia.

BigMeatballDave 01-16-2013 10:03 AM

I literally want to punch that old ****er in the face.

HemiEd 01-16-2013 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9323787)
So Cassel has gotten two coaches and a GM fired in four years and Andy Reid, who has freedom to do pretty much whatever he wants, is gonna keep him? No way


It's nice to know I can ignore anything Gil a Brandt says

If you include OCs it would be more than 2 Coaches.

Please, reassure me again that there is no ****ing way this team is going to pay the bonus that is due Matt Cassel and keep him!:D

loochy 01-16-2013 10:11 AM

What the....Heck?

I'm really really interested to see how much of this team's failure was due to inept coaching.

seaofred 01-16-2013 10:16 AM

Coaching was a big part of the problem, but QB play has been just as bad.

loochy 01-16-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaofred (Post 9323893)
Coaching was a big part of the problem, but QB play has been just as bad.

How much of the bad QB play resulted from improper coaching or scheme?

Rausch 01-16-2013 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9323898)
How much of the bad QB play resulted from improper coaching or scheme?

I think it's safe to say it was a perfect storm of suck from owner down to the guy who squeezes the footballs on the sidelines to break them in...

loochy 01-16-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9323903)
I think it's safe to say it was a perfect storm of suck from owner down to the guy who squeezes the footballs on the sidelines to break them in...

Yeah. It's safe to say that.

Coogs 01-16-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9323817)
I hear he's a great guy, great teammate

Who did you hear that from? Gus himself?

Titty Meat 01-16-2013 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

Ive spoken to gil many times. Great guy but the game has passed him by.

Rain Man 01-16-2013 12:01 PM

Just don't ask him how to block Derrick Thomas.

PhillyChiefFan 01-16-2013 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 9323787)
So Cassel has gotten two coaches and a GM fired in four years and Andy Reid, who has freedom to do pretty much whatever he wants, is gonna keep him? No way


It's nice to know I can ignore anything Gil a Brandt says

I swear some of these guys just pull this stuff out of their asses just so that if it happens they can say they called it, no matter HOW stupid they sound.

FringeNC 01-16-2013 12:12 PM

For the sake of season ticket sales, I don't see how Cassel remains on the roster even at a fraction of his current number.

Frosty 01-16-2013 12:18 PM

If I never see Cassel take another snap in a Chiefs uniform, it will be too soon. That includes preseason, so **** this "keep Cassel as a backup" nonsense. :shake:

htismaqe 01-16-2013 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9324432)
For the sake of season ticket sales, I don't see how Cassel remains on the roster even at a fraction of his current number.

Andy Reid knows a lot about QBs.

Rest assured that he will know as soon as he talks to him that Matt Cassel isn't one.

boogblaster 01-16-2013 12:22 PM

sounds solid too me .. hire him .....

Rausch 01-16-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9324360)
Just don't ask him how to block Derrick Thomas.

Apparently you throw some pu$$y in front of him.



















Too soon?...

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-16-2013 01:27 PM

Reid Ferrin‏@KCChiefs_Reid

Chiefs name Andy Heck the team’s offensive line coach and Kevin O’Dea the club’s assistant special teams coach. #Chiefs

O.city 01-16-2013 01:28 PM

Is Heck a ZBS guy? Anyone know? I'm too lazy to look.

Phobia 01-16-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9324866)
Is Heck a ZBS guy? Anyone know? I'm too lazy to look.

He's a Z28 guy but he'll probably upgrade now that he's on Clark's payroll.

Phobia 01-16-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9323817)
After watching him for 4 years there is absolutely nothing about his physical ability that leads me to believe he should have ever even been a b/u in this league.

I hear he's a great guy, great teammate, wonderful person. I hope the rest of his life outside of football is blessed.

That said this man is DREADFUL in every area when it comes to being an NFL QB...

He's pretty good at handing off most of the time and cashing checks.

saphojunkie 01-16-2013 01:51 PM

If we don't take Geno Smith #1 overall, then I hope Cassel is the starter for 16 games. At least that way we're guaranteed to have the top pick again next year.

ChiefMojo 01-16-2013 01:59 PM

So we can grab Clowney? ;-)

The Bad Guy 01-16-2013 02:00 PM

Staff is pretty much done except for Childress. Heard yesterday he's still coming as senior offensive assistant.

ChiefMojo 01-16-2013 02:02 PM

Is his hold up to do with his contract with the Browns?

The Bad Guy 01-16-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 9325020)
Is his hold up to do with his contract with the Browns?

Not really sure.

booger 01-16-2013 02:05 PM

They gonna have a couple younger assistants in place to learn under Brasher and Emmit Thomas TBG?

The Bad Guy 01-16-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 9325034)
They gonna have a couple younger assistants in place to learn under Brasher and Emmit Thomas TBG?

Otis Smith was rumored to be staying, but he would have been announced by now.

I don't think so. I think they'll just bring in new guys when these guys are ready to retire.

Dave Lane 01-16-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9324509)
Apparently you throw some pu$$y in front of him.


Or ice

jallmon 01-16-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

He also thinks that Colt McCoy is the franchise QB for Cleveland.

booger 01-16-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9325082)
Otis Smith was rumored to be staying, but he would have been announced by now.

I don't think so. I think they'll just bring in new guys when these guys are ready to retire.

Not a bad way to do it either. I just wondered about Brasher in particular. I guess he seems to get the most out of his DLmen. What have you heard about him?

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2013 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9324866)
Is Heck a ZBS guy? Anyone know? I'm too lazy to look.

This hiring says a LOT. Frankly, if it means what I think it means, it says a lot of good about Andy Reid.

Reid is a power blocking guy. Jon Runyan was a 330 lb right tackle, Jason Peters is a 340 lb blocker, Hank Fraley was a 310 lb center. He likes big, big dudes. Heck's offensive line at LT, C, and RT? Somewhere around 305, 290, 305. Says a lot about Reid if he's going to design a scheme around a lighter weight ZBS when his entire background is around maulers playing power blocking.

O.city 01-16-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9326909)
This hiring says a LOT. Frankly, if it means what I think it means, it says a lot of good about Andy Reid.

Reid is a power blocking guy. Jon Runyan was a 330 lb right tackle, Jason Peters is a 340 lb blocker, Hank Fraley was a 310 lb center. He likes big, big dudes. Heck's offensive line at LT, C, and RT? Somewhere around 305, 290, 305. Says a lot about Reid if he's going to design a scheme around a lighter weight ZBS when his entire background is around maulers playing power blocking.

Yeah, I gotta say, I'm liking the fact that he's not fitting square pegs in round holes.

Seems he's evaluating/evaluated the roster and is getting coaches to fit the players we have, not just bringing a system in and forcing guys into it.

We'll have to se how it works out, but I'm liking it so far.

FloridaMan88 01-16-2013 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 9323712)
Heard this on 610 this morning. Meh.

I ALSO heard, on 610 as well, Gil Brandt say that if he were coaching the Chiefs that his guy next season would be Matt Cassel. UBUHWHAAAA?

"I'm a Matt Cassel guy," Brandt said. "I just think he's a football player"

Yes, Gil. He's in the NFL. He is a football player. That does not mean he's a GOOD football player.

I think you are a football analyst. This does not mean you're not a ****ing idiot.

Gil Brandt is obviously past his expiration date and needs to drop dead.

O.city 01-16-2013 10:00 PM

Speaking of the offensive line, I've noticed Albert back on twitter, going all "Chiefsnation" and RT all these tweets about staying a Chief etc.


I hat to lose him if health is ok, he's grown into a good player and still has room to grow.

milkman 01-16-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9326986)
Speaking of the offensive line, I've noticed Albert back on twitter, going all "Chiefsnation" and RT all these tweets about staying a Chief etc.


I hat to lose him if health is ok, he's grown into a good player and still has room to grow.

I would guess that bringing in a "proven winner" would excite the players as much as most fans.

O.city 01-16-2013 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9327069)
I would guess that bringing in a "proven winner" would excite the players as much as most fans.

Yeah, I've noticed they've been talking about it quite a bit on twitter.

Micjones 01-16-2013 10:33 PM

Solid hire.

The Jags had a Top 10 ground game four out of seven years Heck served as the offensive line coach. They also gave up a shit ton of sacks, but that's largely due to a wilted David Garrard and Blaine Gabbert.

Score one for the Chiefs' running game.

O.city 01-16-2013 11:01 PM

Speaking of Albert, when can he be re signed? Do we have to wait till March?

silver5liter 01-16-2013 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9327191)
Speaking of Albert, when can he be re signed? Do we have to wait till March?

I think he can sign now but im not sure. But if this is his real twitter that just got created it sounds like he wants to stay. I would think its a fake but jamaal and Jeff allen were both talking to him.

https://twitter.com/Balbert76

O.city 01-16-2013 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9327285)
I think he can sign now but im not sure. But if this is his real twitter that just got created it sounds like he wants to stay. I would think its a fake but jamaal and Jeff allen were both talking to him.

https://twitter.com/Balbert76

Yeah, I think it's really him.


Sounds like he wants to be in KC. Maybe we sign him soon?

silver5liter 01-16-2013 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9327288)
Yeah, I think it's really him.


Sounds like he wants to be in KC. Maybe we sign him soon?

I would think so, he had one last year but deleted it because he said he needed to focus. Im hoping getting back on means hes close to signing.

TimeForWasp 01-16-2013 11:39 PM

Andy Reid is a heck of a guy. Andy,Heck is a heck of a guy.

O.city 01-16-2013 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9327290)
I would think so, he had one last year but deleted it because he said he needed to focus. Im hoping getting back on means hes close to signing.

I'd hope so.


Ask him how his back is doing.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-16-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9327191)
Speaking of Albert, when can he be re signed? Do we have to wait till March?

Can't sign till the end of the season Monday after the superbowl

silver5liter 01-16-2013 11:42 PM

I already did and he didnt reply to it. I also asked if hes met john dorsey or Reid yet

O.city 01-16-2013 11:42 PM

Cool thanks chiefsos

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-16-2013 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver5liter (Post 9327318)
I already did and he didnt reply to it. I also asked if hes met john dorsey or Reid yet

It's a fake account I ask him where he played his high school ball and he had no clue

silver5liter 01-16-2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9327320)
It's a fake account I ask him where he played his high school ball and he had no clue

Id probably agree but he was talking to jamaal and allen. Then someone tweeted him that he knows and the "person" on his account knew who the guy was so idk.

What was his reply to you?

-King- 01-16-2013 11:48 PM

I'm almost 100% sure that twitter is fake. He's laying it on a bit TOO thick.

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Branden Albert ‏@Balbert76

"@fanmankc: @Balbert76 Who was the best d lineman or lb that you faced this year?" The chief front 7


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