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Silock 05-03-2012 03:24 PM

Lame.

whoman69 05-03-2012 03:26 PM

Problem with this is modders are the ones that fix most of their glitches. You can't mod an MMO.

kcxiv 05-03-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8592031)
Oh yay. I get to hear more people harass me about how "X" game is the new WoW Killer.

The good thing is it doesnt have to be a WOW killer. It just has to be good enough to retain people and make a profit.

Anyways, i like how they are going with the EQ style hotbars. You can only have a certain ammount of abilities to use. Not like games now days where you have 6 bars of abilities open.

3 factions for PVP should be freaking interesting lol

QuikSsurfer 05-03-2012 09:30 PM

Game Informer info

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-Releasing 2013 for PC/Mac
-Developed by ZeniMax Online Studios
-MMORPG
-250 Person Team
-Started development in 2007
-"This time, saving the world from the awakening of ancient evil is only the beginning. What happens when hundreds or thousands of prophesied heroes all think that they should be Emperor?"
-The game is fully voice acted
-Third person perspective
-The game uses a hotbar to activate skills like other traditional MMOs
-Visually it looks like other Hero Engine MMOs like SWTOR
-The general art style is kind of like RIFT or Everquest 2
-You can't be a werewolf or vampire
-Crafting, alchemy, and soul stones will exist in an unrevealed form
-There will be Daedric Princes like Molag Bal, the primary antagonist, and Vaermina, "whose sphere of influence extends to the dream world and the nightmares of mortals", along with some unnamed others
-Constellations will be in the game a la Mundus stones (which work like guardian stones) and also give the answer to things like block puzzles where you step on the blocks in a certain order
-Tons of towns ranging from Imperial City, Windhelm, Daggerfall, Sentinel, Mournhold, Ebonheart, Elden Root, Shornhelm, Evermore, Riften, and a lot more
-Radiant AI will not be present
-There will be mounts, but no flying mounts
-Fast travel exists in the game in the form of wayshrines, which are also your ressurection point, and you can teleport from one wayshrine to any other wayshrine you have already visited
-There most likely won't be dragons
-Sneaking will be in the game, but how it is implemented is undecided
-They're not talking about pets right now
-There will be no player housing
-There will be no NPC romances or marriage
-"It needs to be comfortable for people who are coming in from a typical massively multiplayer game that has the same control mechanisms, but it also has to appeal to Skyrim players."
-Features most of Tamriel including Skyrim, Morrowind, Summerset Isle, and Elseweyr.
-"Not all provinces are included in their entirety; Zenimax Online is keeping large areas inaccessible to save them for use as expansion content. Nonetheless, every major area is represented to some extent."
-As an example, Windhelm is fully implemented, but Winterhold and the mages' college won't be in at launch.
-There are three player factions:
--Ebonheart Pact: The Nords, Dunmer, and Argoninans
--Aldmeri Dominion: Altmer, Bosmer, and Khajit
--Daggerfall Covenant: Bretons, Redguard, and Orcs
-"Recreateing the freedom Elder Scrolls players expect within the World of Warcraft-style mechanics Zenimax Online is using for this MMO would be impossible without changing the way that players interact with the world."
-As such, the game uses a hubless design
-For example, you don't necessarily pick up a quest to do the following, but if you kill all the necromancers in an undead barrow, a shade you free at the end will reward you.
-However, to help you find these events, various NPCs you talk to will tell you where they are happening and put a marker pointing them on your map, which is obviously totally different than receiving a quest.
-Not all quests will have NPCs that indicate where they are
-The game uses MMORPG genre standards such as classes, experience points, and other traditional MMORPG progression mechanics, but they try to present it "around the core fantasy presented by traditiona Elder Scrolls games" such as traveling around and righting wrongs or seeking riches
-The game world is very large relative to Skyrim
-You can explore almost anything you can see
-the game is set 1000 years in the past
-You can't master every discipline
-The imperials are an enemy to all three factions, lead by the noble Tharn family and the King of Worms, Mannimarco, and are hatching a plot to take over all of Tamriel
-But BEHOLD, Mannicmarco is scheming with Daedric prince Molag Bal to take over the world behind the Tharn's back
-Also, your soul has already been stolen by Molag Bal, which is the reason you can come back from death over and over again, and the starting plot is that you're fighting Molag Bal to get your soul back from him
-Hitting the level cap takes about 120 hours
-Each faction has their own leveling content
-An example quest is the story of Camlorn, where you have to stop evil werewolves who have their eyes set on conquest. First, you have to do a "standard MMO kill and collection quest" to sto ghosts from attacking some mages and soldiers. The ghosts are reliving a battle that the werewolf leader was in. You summon a ghost to find out what's going on, and the ghost tells you to wear her dead husband's armor to re-experience the battle he died in. You then get transported hundreds of years into the past to fight this battle. During this battle, you can choose to save the dead man's wife or to pursue the Werewolf leader. ZeniMax chooses to save the man's wife, who then tells you that the Werewolf leader is weak to fire. This information is helpful when you fight him, but you don't actually need to do this quest before fighting the werewolf leader if you don't want to. Basically, you can skip parts of quest chains if you want, but you get some benefit for playing the whole thing. Also, whenever you go back to the town you just saved, everything there hails you as a hero.
-The game features three faction PvP where you fight to take over keeps and use trebuchets and other siege weapons to help do it. At the high end, you can have 100 v 100 battles. There are also farms and mines you can try to take over. Mots of this happens in Cyrodiil where your goal is to take over and hold the Imperial City to get faction wide bonuses for it. If you have played Dark Age of Camelot, this probably sounds familiar. For those who haven't, essentially the entire zone is a giant PvP area will all sorts of points of interest.
-The most accomplished PvP player on your faction becomes emperor whenever you take over the capital
-When you take over Cyrodiil, you will be able to adventure in it as a hostile city a la Kvatch
-The game will have raids and heroic modes for its dungeons as end game content in addition to faction PvP
-There is also balanced PvP for people who prefer eSports
-The game will also have high end public dungeons
-Public dungeons are essentially instances that aren't actually instanced, so anyone can be in them, so imagine a World of Warcraft dungeon that featured everyone on the server in the area instead of just your party
-There are standard instanced dungeons as well
-Back on the topic of the skillbar, you have a limited number of skills you can use at any given time, and can change them whenever you're out of combat
-The number of skills is equal to (paraphrase) "a light and heavy attack with your current weapon that take up the first two slots, a few more spells related to your class, and an ultimate in the last slot".
-The ultimate is used once you gain enough finesse, which is earned by doing well in combat
-You also get a bonus loot chest if you're soloing and max your finesse, and you can also build finesse by comboing with other players
-For example, a rogue can put oil on the ground that a mage can set on fire
-A fighter can also spin in the firestorm a mage puts down, which sends out fireballs
-If you've seen Guild Wars 2 videos, the above will seem familiar
-You can't combo with the abilities of enemy players though, so if an enemy faction player drops an oil slick, you can't set it on fire
-The Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood will be presented, but in what form isn't detailed as their contnet is hard to recreate in an MMO setting
-NPCs will try to work together and use player like behavior when fighting you, and (at least to my understanding) have stamina as well
-They want the AI to be good, so instead of enemies in a dungeon sitting around and waiting to be pulled, you will be attacked by the entire room and they will try to react to how you are playing
-The claim was not demo'ed to Game Informer
-You destroy dark anchors to gain reputation with the Fighter's Guild. They are large hooks that fall from the sky pseudorandomly and have Daedric guardians next to them. They are easier to kill with a group, and once destroyed, everyone who participated gets a reputation boost with the Fighter's Guild, and eventually nets you rewards like new skills and abilities.
-The combat model will not be real time due to latency
-The combat is based around a stamina bar which you can use to sprint, block, interrupt, and break incapacitating effects
-Blocking is the primary focus of these abilities, and can do things like stopping the secondary effects of attacks such as an ice spell slowing you
-Stamina also applies to PvP, so stamina management (and wearing down your enemy's stamina) is important, as your crowd control abilities might be on a long cooldown, and if you use them before the enemy player runs out of stamina, they will probably just block the effect
-ZeniMax feels that having the stamina bar will help break down the Holy Trinity as stamina allows you to do things like tank
-However, healing is still a big part of the game
-There is also no aggro mechanic in the game, which is part of the reason stamina blocking and healing exist

Bump 05-03-2012 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8592031)
Oh yay. I get to hear more people harass me about how "X" game is the new WoW Killer.

damn, they're still looking for a wow killer?

Imon Yourside 05-03-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8591494)
****. I assume this means that every future Elder Scrolls game will be a goddamn MMO now. 4321

My feeling exactly, I much prefer the single player version.

Bump 05-03-2012 11:48 PM

I just hope they get more than 3 or 4 voice actors for the whole game

Silock 05-04-2012 01:43 AM

I was gonna play this game, until I took an arrow to the knee.

htismaqe 05-04-2012 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 8591891)
OUT.

After years of playing their games, Skyrim soured me on bethseda. I'll stick with Guild Wars 2 thank you very much.

It took until Skyrim?

You obviously never played Battlespire - oh wait, I never played it as a new release either because Bethesda "lost" my pre-order...

kaplin42 05-04-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 8593172)
Game Informer info

Based on the long list of info that I'm omitting from this quote, this game looks like another generic MMO, plus a block feature a la Tera.

Taking odds that this will be the buggiest MMO ever.

If they could have kept the fighting, and interaction with NPC's like Skyrim, it would have been win. But it sounds like their just another theme park pretending to be a sandbox.

In any event, it still may be worth trying out, depending on how bad TOR is by then.

Bump 05-04-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8593705)
It took until Skyrim?

You obviously never played Battlespire - oh wait, I never played it as a new release either because Bethesda "lost" my pre-order...

I guess I don't understand your hatred towards Bethesda. Why are you so sour towards them? I've enjoyed all the games I've played by them, but they are only Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim.

Pants 05-04-2012 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8594114)
I guess I don't understand your hatred towards Bethesda. Why are you so sour towards them? I've enjoyed all the games I've played by them, but they are only Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim.

Their games are enjoyable but they're buggy as shit and completely imbalanced.

htismaqe 05-04-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8594114)
I guess I don't understand your hatred towards Bethesda. Why are you so sour towards them? I've enjoyed all the games I've played by them, but they are only Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim.

I started with Elder Scrolls Arena.

Daggerfall was one of the buggiest games in the history of PC gaming. Even though I never was able to finish Daggerfall due to the bugs, I stuck with them and pre-ordered Battlespire.

I never did receive that pre-order and their customer service ranged from "I know nothing" to "I am going to transfer you to my manager (click)" to "we don't have any record that you pre-ordered anything from us".

Imon Yourside 05-04-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8594146)
Their games are enjoyable but they're buggy as shit and completely imbalanced.

That's half the charm, and you have to remember they go places most developers only dream of.

Imon Yourside 05-04-2012 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8594171)
I started with Elder Scrolls Arena.

Daggerfall was one of the buggiest games in the history of PC gaming. Even though I never was able to finish Daggerfall due to the bugs, I stuck with them and pre-ordered Battlespire.

I never did receive that pre-order and their customer service ranged from "I know nothing" to "I am going to transfer you to my manager (click)" to "we don't have any record that you pre-ordered anything from us".

You must be as old as me, and I loved Daggerfall despite having 300+ hours invested in a character only to get stuck on the stairwell forever in my own house...lolz. Arena was fun as well. Battlespire was just pure fail all the way around, the game sucked ass. It was billed as more of an action game to compete with..i believe ....was it die by the sword?

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