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BWillie 11-01-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10146664)
The Royals should have settled this quickly and quietly. Verify the injury and surgery stuff and then pay the guy's medical bills. :shrug:

never should have made it this far imo

So that's what you should do? Pay for things you aren't responsible for. That sure opens the flood gates for ppl. Hey, I'll just go to a Royals game, get some free stuff. Hey my leg hurts, I'll go fall down someones stairs to get them to pay for my shit. I'm sure the Royals offered to give him something, autographed baseball, some free tickets. This guy was like, hell no, I'm going to drag this thing thru the mud.

BWillie 11-01-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10146675)
Your examples are totally ridiculous.

You're comparing cleaning up acorns to a guy getting thousands of dollars in surgeries.

And then in your second example, you talk about a guy who does something stupid then blames somebody else.

Now in this example, you're talking about natural events.

The Kansas City Royals are a business. When you are a business, you take on risks and liability, and you insure against it. As the property owner, they have an obligation to make sure that it's safe. There is a difference between a guy sprinting through Target and tripping and falling because of his own stupidity, and a guy casually walking through Target when he trips on a wet spot somebody forgot to clean up. This guy was minding his own business, the Royals engaged in an activity they knew was risky and avoidable, and the guy got injured.

Good lord. Hot dogs. HOT DOGS. Giving away hot dogs is dangerous? By going to a baseball game you assume the risk of projectiles. You assume it. And, it doesn't matter if his damages are $1 for ketchup on his shirt, or 9.7M for an injury. That should have no bearing over the liability of the situation. It has to do with a breach of duty.

Next time I catch one of sluggers hot dogs and the ketchup gets loose due to the small impact and onto my shirt. I'm going to sue the Royals for $19.95 for my t-shirt. I will not give up. I will prevail. They must pay for my stained t-shirt.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10146679)
So that's what you should do? Pay for things you aren't responsible for. That sure opens the flood gates for ppl. Hey, I'll just go to a Royals game, get some free stuff. Hey my leg hurts, I'll go fall down someones stairs to get them to pay for my shit. I'm sure the Royals offered to give him something, autographed baseball, some free tickets. This guy was like, hell no, I'm going to drag this thing thru the mud.

I don't think you have any concept of how the legal system works. The Royals can't be sued because an idiot falls down the stairs, unless there was something that should have been fixed and wasn't.

And the idea that a free autographed baseball pays for thousands of dollars in surgeries and lifetime seeing impairment is a complete laugher.

It doesn't open the floodgates for anything, except for fans who get hit in the eye with projectile objects from a stadium employee being given ability to pay their medical bills.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10146690)
Good lord. Hot dogs. HOT DOGS. Giving away hot dogs is dangerous? By going to a baseball game you assume the risk of projectiles. You assume it. And, it doesn't matter if his damages are $1 for ketchup on his shirt, or 9.7M for an injury. That should have no bearing over the liability of the situation. It has to do with a breach of duty.

Next time I catch one of sluggers hot dogs and the ketchup gets loose due to the small impact and onto my shirt. I'm going to sue the Royals for $19.95 for my t-shirt. I will not give up. I will prevail. They must pay for my stained t-shirt.

$19.95 for a t-shirt that the team would likely replace with equal value merchandise vs. thousands of dollars in medical procedures

You can replace a t-shirt. You think the Royals are going to donate eyes to this guy? Seriously.

And you would be the first person probably that ever worried about going to the game and getting hit in the eye with a hot dog. The games I've been to, I've seen tacos dropped on very slow parachutes. I've seen t-shirt cannons that they launch upward in the air. The fact that there was any risk of injury at all puts the blame on the Royals for such a poorly planned promotion.

Saul Good 11-01-2013 12:24 PM

You go to a baseball game knowing that there is a lot going on, and that it isn't the same as sitting in your Lazyboy at home.

When Slugger starts tossing hotdogs, it's not a ****ing ambush. It's pretty obvious what is happening. Had someone sprinted up behind this guy, tapped him on the shoulder, and drilled him in the face from point blank range when he turned around, that would be one thing. That simply wasn't the case here. An obvious promotion was happening. This guy knew about it. A freak accident happened, but it wasn't caused by negligence on the part of the Royals. It happened because this guy was too dumb to not get hit in the face by a hotdog.

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10146705)
You go to a baseball game knowing that there is a lot going on, and that it isn't the same as sitting in your Lazyboy at home.

When Slugger starts tossing hotdogs, it's not a ****ing ambush. It's pretty obvious what is happening. Had someone sprinted up behind this guy, tapped him on the shoulder, and drilled him in the face from point blank range when he turned around, that would be one thing. That simply wasn't the case here. An obvious promotion was happening. This guy knew about it. A freak accident happened, but it wasn't caused by negligence on the part of the Royals. It happened because this guy was too dumb to not get hit in the face by a hotdog.

What do you mean it wasn't caused by the negligence of the Royals?

They approved a promotion that clearly had a chance of inflicting serious medical damage on a person.

And you are completely self righteous if you act like you are locked in every time something is being launched. You said it yourself. A million things are going on. You might be laughing at the guy three sections over, or looking at the scoreboard. Or looking at your program. Or putting down your beer. Or calling for the beer guy.

I mean, how old are you? The only people who lock in to the mascots are kids and parents trying to get shit for their kids. Almost everyone I know not in these categories uses intermissions to get food, get a beer, go to the bathroom, or talk to their neighbor. Nor should I feel obligated to pay extra attention to the mascot.

Mr. Laz 11-01-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10146679)
So that's what you should do? Pay for things you aren't responsible for. That sure opens the flood gates for ppl. Hey, I'll just go to a Royals game, get some free stuff. Hey my leg hurts, I'll go fall down someones stairs to get them to pay for my shit. I'm sure the Royals offered to give him something, autographed baseball, some free tickets. This guy was like, hell no, I'm going to drag this thing thru the mud.

The guy was injured by the direct action of a Royal's employee.

so yea, you get one of your investigator guys to makes sure it's all legit and you pay 20k for the medical bills to make it go away. No court case, no legal precedence, no bad PR.

Now I imagine the Royals will have to pay more than 20k even if they win the case.

jettio 11-01-2013 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10146705)
You go to a baseball game knowing that there is a lot going on, and that it isn't the same as sitting in your Lazyboy at home.

When Slugger starts tossing hotdogs, it's not a ****ing ambush. It's pretty obvious what is happening. Had someone sprinted up behind this guy, tapped him on the shoulder, and drilled him in the face from point blank range when he turned around, that would be one thing. That simply wasn't the case here. An obvious promotion was happening. This guy knew about it. A freak accident happened, but it wasn't caused by negligence on the part of the Royals. It happened because this guy was too dumb to not get hit in the face by a hotdog.

Were you a witness to this incident?

IMO, if Slugerr threw the hot dog behind his back into an area where nobody was clamoring for hot dogs, the Royals ought to be liable.

The times I have seen the hot dog throws. I have never seen one get past all of the people trying to catch it.

The fact that this hot dog hit this guy in the eye when he was not looking indicates one or two things that suggest negligence by the mascot. That nobody else around him was trying to catch the hot dog. Or, that the throw's speed and trajectory was not appropriate for the distance of the throw because none of the people who were trying to catch it were able to.

I enjoy going to the Royals games, but there is way too much sensory overload between innings. They have some loud nonsense going on between every inning. I could see how a regular attendee of the games would learn to tune that sh*t out to maintain his sanity.

BWillie 11-01-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10146694)
I don't think you have any concept of how the legal system works. The Royals can't be sued because an idiot falls down the stairs, unless there was something that should have been fixed and wasn't.

And the idea that a free autographed baseball pays for thousands of dollars in surgeries and lifetime seeing impairment is a complete laugher.

It doesn't open the floodgates for anything, except for fans who get hit in the eye with projectile objects from a stadium employee being given ability to pay their medical bills.

I understand how the legal system works, I used to work with these types of incidents all the time. I saw cases go to court, the outcomes, worked with attorneys, completed depositions. What I am saying, is there is no breach of duty on the Royals. I'm just saying, the type of people that sue for this kind of shit, also sue for the other stuff I mentioned.

jettio 11-01-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10146729)
The guy was injury by the direct action of a Royal's employee.

so yea, you get one of your investigator guys to makes sure it's all legit and you pay 20k for the medical bills to make it go away. No court case, no legal precedence, no bad PR.

Now I imagine the Royals will have to pay more than 20k even if they win the case.

I agree, but it may be the case that the Royals insurer is the one paying the freight and refusing a settlement. I imagine the plaintiff's demand would be reasonable after losing the first verdict, even if there was error in the jury instructions.

Would be interesting to know if Coomer's health insurer has a lien on any recovery for the amount attributable to medical expenses?

Mr. Laz 11-01-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jettio (Post 10146753)
I agree, but it may be the case that the Royals insurer is the one paying the freight and refusing a settlement. I imagine the plaintiff's demand would be reasonable after losing the first verdict, even if there was error in the jury instructions.

Would be interesting to know if Coomer's health insurer has a lien on any recovery for the amount attributable to medical expenses?

I'm only going by the information we have.

but this isn't good for the Royals

If he was injured like the article suggests and his monetary demands are inline when the medical injuries then just PAY it and move on.

legal bills will be more

chiefzilla1501 11-01-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10146743)
I understand how the legal system works, I used to work with these types of incidents all the time. I saw cases go to court, the outcomes, worked with attorneys, completed depositions. What I am saying, is there is no breach of duty on the Royals. I'm just saying, the type of people that sue for this kind of shit, also sue for the other stuff I mentioned.

When you start throwing objects at people, there should be a breach of duty. Should you evaluate the way the hot dog is wrapped? Should you throw it higher in the air? Pretty sure that throwing behind your back is just nonsense.
I get your point if you're talking about a simple slip and fall where somebody is trying to milk the system for a made up injury. This guy sounds like he has legit medical injury that he had to pay for.

What if this was a 5 year old kid with no coordination? A baseball team shouldn't do this kind of promotion if they haven't thought through the risks. They absolutely had a breach of duty the instant they approved of this promotion.

BWillie 11-01-2013 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10146705)
You go to a baseball game knowing that there is a lot going on, and that it isn't the same as sitting in your Lazyboy at home.

When Slugger starts tossing hotdogs, it's not a ****ing ambush. It's pretty obvious what is happening. Had someone sprinted up behind this guy, tapped him on the shoulder, and drilled him in the face from point blank range when he turned around, that would be one thing. That simply wasn't the case here. An obvious promotion was happening. This guy knew about it. A freak accident happened, but it wasn't caused by negligence on the part of the Royals. It happened because this guy was too dumb to not get hit in the face by a hotdog.

Yeah, exactly.

Red Dawg 11-01-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10146585)
You sir, should take responsibility for your own actions. If you were hit by a foul ball, still want Royals to pay for it? I bet you are the kind of guy that when you are at your friends house, you fall down his stairs, injuring yourself, and you expect him to pay for it. The kind of guy that has an acorn fall off of your neighbors tree, and you send a invoice to your neighbor for clean up. The kind of guy that slams into the back of a caravan full of illegal immigrants, injures all of them, but yells at them for your damage because they don't have insurance.

Omg. Get a grip. I would never try and hurt a friends wallet with bullshit. The Royals are not this guys buddy. He is permanently damaged and should get all he can for his trouble. Life is alog easier when you have money, just ask anyone who doesn't have any.

BlackHelicopters 11-01-2013 12:52 PM

Ban hot dogs


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