Rumor: Todd Haley going back to Arizona?
 

Just saw on NBC 41 Jack Harry is reporting that Jason LaCanfora is saying Haley will be Arizonas top choice for replacing Whisenhunt.

With the Arizona Cardinals losing nine straight games after a 4-0 start, including a historic 58-0 loss last week to rival Seattle, team officials are mulling possible changes for the offseason, sources said, with former Cardinals coordinator Todd Haley a top option to replace coach Ken Whisenhunt if a change is made.

Haley has shined in his first season as Pittsburgh's offensive coordinator -- following his firing as Chiefs coach last year -- and his name continues to come up in internal discussions in Arizona, sources said. The Bidwill family remains big supporters of Haley, who served as offensive coordinator in 2007-08 and was play caller for Arizona's lone Super Bowl team. The Bidwills pushed for Haley to be back on Whisenhunt's staff after last season, facilitating a series of meetings between Whisenhunt and Haley, but Whisenhunt had already committed to coordinator Mike Miller calling plays and ended up retaining the staff favorite.

The Cardinals have been stout defensively under coordinator Ray Horton but have failed on the offensive side of the ball amid a revolving door at quarterback. While it would be out of character for the franchise to absorb a financial hit to make a coaching change (Whisenhunt is still owed $5.5 million, sources said), the move is possible given how poorly this season has gone. Arizona is 17-28 since 2009 and has not been a serious playoff contender since Kurt Warner's retirement after the '09 season.

Also, assistant general manager Steve Keim, who has a strong reputation around the league, could perhaps end up replacing long-time GM Rod Graves. Notably, Keim shares a strong relationship with Haley from Haley's previous time in Arizona.

At this point, it would be surprising to many if someone other than Haley ended up coaching the Cardinals should Whisenhunt's tenure there end.

Haley's possible departure from the Steelers could be part of a larger trend of OC turnover within the AFC North. The Ravens have already fired offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, Bengals OC Jay Gruden is expected to be a top candidate for multiple head coaching vacancies and new ownership and management in Cleveland means the future of head coach Pat Shurmur and his staff is in doubt.



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Well shit. I was one of the people who said there's no way in hell he ever gets another head coaching gig ever again. What a difference a year can make.

I don't think I would wish that on the Cards. His HC with OC overseer crap just isn't going to lead to stability anywhere.

Fitz will be stoked about it.

Norv Turner has spent 15 years as a head coach in this league. I'm sure Todd Haley can get another shot.

if turds like Wade Phillips and Chan Gailey can get 2nd HC shots, so can odd Todd

look at the stream of 2 and 3 time losers KC has hired over the years....

jesus, gunther is still employed in the nfl

Brian Daboll got 3 NFL teams to hire his offensive play style

THREE teams bought into the crap soup he was selling for a playbook

think about that

Marty said this a while ago.

Scott Polio should warn the Cards. They have no idea what they are getting in Haley.

Besides the logo, I'm not sure you could really qualify the Chiefs as an NFL team. Right now Jamaal is looking for peer support from Barry Sanders.

I never understood the hate with that guy, he had all the makings of a good coach, he was just being held back by a maniacal freak.

Thought he loved being in Pittsburgh

Yeah, right.

It was all Pioli's fault that Todd hired four offensive coordinators in 2.5 years.

Not after tonight's game

I felt the first 2 were pushed on him.

Gailey and himself?

Gailey and Weiss

Not gonna be awkward or a situation if we keep Pioli and still have training camp practices with the Cardinals?

Gailey was in place when Haley got here...the only coordinators Haley hired in his 2.5 seasons were Muir and Weis.

To be be perfectly accurate.

No - Weis and Muir.

Haley wanted to be his own OC.

He also wanted an actual NFL QB or two on his roster to run said offense.

I know the history. It was a joke.

Hailey showed poor judgement in firing Gailey when he did.

But overall, the Haley worship around here is ludicrous, IMO. He sucked as a head coach and has not done much with a loaded offense in Pittsburgh this season.

Dude, you're about 3.5 years with this shit.

And himself to be 100% accurate

As long as they have cameras installed and taps on his phone they'll be fine.

The only poor judgement of Haley's regarding Gailey was by not firing Chan the moment Haley was hired.

The way I heard it, Haley really didn't have a choice in firing Gailey, anyway.

Haley didn't suck as a Head Coach - that's ridiculous, Dane. He was young, and straddled with a roster that had no depth, no QB, and the worst GM in franchise history.

The fact that he was able to accomplish what he did with what he had, is in fact a testament to his NOT being terrible. And Big Ben is basically putting up the most efficient numbers of his career (regardless of his pick today - Carr's a stud.)

Plus, he loved this city and loved coaching here - he gave a shit, and it showed.

With a supportive GM, Haley will be a successful head coach.

He became OC out of default in '09; I wouldn't call delegating a job to yourself a 'hire.'

Unless he pocketed Gailey's paychecks - then it would be accurate.

:LOL:

awesome.

LMAO

His record and tenure prove otherwise.

Yup good coaches are tough to find. Haley's gonna be damned fine HC.

Looks like someone in Pitt won't be unhappy if Haley leaves:

profootballtalk.com
Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was unsurprisingly unhappy after Sunday’s loss to the Cowboys. And while Roethlisberger told reporters in the locker room after the game that he primarily put the blame for the loss on himself, he also hinted that he thinks Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley deserved some of the blame.

Roethlisberger, whose relationship with Haley has been a hot-button topic in Pittsburgh this season, didn’t mention Haley by name. But he did make a couple of comments that suggested he wasn’t crazy about the way Haley was calling plays.

Asked why tight end Heath Miller didn’t have a single pass thrown his way in the second half, Roethlisberger answered, “I just don’t think we called the right plays to get him the ball.”

And when asked why the Steelers didn’t run more no-huddle offense in the second half, Roethlisberger acknowledged he wished they had done more.

“That’s tough for me to answer right now,” he said. “The second half we didn’t do much of it, and that’s disappointing.”

For the Steelers, there’s a lot to be disappointed about after today’s loss. The good news is that they can still salvage their season and make the playoffs if they win their last two games. The bad news is a feud between Roethlisberger and Haley isn’t the best way to begin a crucial week of work before the Week 16 meeting with the Bengals.

No, it's not.

Looking back I think we can all see he was fighting an uphill battle with the f/o (so I wouldn't place all blame on him) but his response was to completely flake out and our team flamed out...

This.

Come back to KC

The Chiefs fans who still swing from Haley's coconuts think its as simple as being someone elses fault for the disaster of Haley's 3 year tenure and put it all on Pioli.

When in reality...

Pioli sucks.

Haley sucks.

Cassel sucks.

"Pioli is forcing Haley to work with Cassel. That's is why he sucked!"

Well...

"Pittsburgh is forcing Haley to work with Roethlisberger and he still sucks!"

If he has a good QB he will be successful....just like most coaches.

When he had Warner he was successful....with Big Ben he was successful.

With Cassel he was dogshit because that's exactly what Cassel is.

:hmmm:

What are the Steelers? Like 20th in offense? SUCCESS!

Put me in the "who cares" category.

I'll 2nd that...

The only reason to talk about Haley is because his history is linked to Pioli and all the ****ed up shit that happened here.

Pioli is about to be history, so neither of them will be worth discussing anymore...

Hey Big Ben...

There were no throws to Heath Miller in the 2nd half because he stayed in to block...because your makeshift O-line was getting eaten alive by the Dallas pass rush.

Don't know if you were watching the same game I was...

but it seems pretty obvious why Miller wasn't goong out for passes - your tackles needed HELP, 'dawg'.

And you can try and throw your OC under the bus, but...you can't blame him for that pick in OT - that's one's on you, BB...

So, suck it up - you play in a 'Big Boy' offense, with reads and progressions and whatnot, and it has actually made you a 'more efficient' QB...

You just CAN'T throw interceptions in OT - you just can't. Big Ben blaming Haley for that is childish and immature. Bad decision on Ben's part to throw that pass during the game, and even worse decision to throw his play caller under the bus after.

Bruce Ariens masked alot of the problems with Pitt. That line is terrible and their current run game isn't much better.

If Haley does go back to Arizona, better take the mothballs of your Breaston jerseys, he'll be a 60 catch guy again in no time.

Yep. And Big Ben doesn't like things forced on him...Big Ben likes to do the forcing, ya know.

When Haley becomes the HC of the Cards...then I become an Arizona Cardinals fan.

ROFL

**** it - being a 'Chiefs fan' for over 20 years now, and at this point it just makes me not want to watch football.

I'm like, **** the NFL. We're never going to be any good.

When I was a kid, and Montana's head dinged off the Buffalo Astro-Turf...that was it.

That was as good as it's ever been.

I guesss it's kinda like crack...that first hit was so good and sweet, I keep chasing the dragon, trying to get that feeling back.

Being a Chiefs fan is like being a crackhead - useless, futile, repetitive...

So become an Arizona Cardinals fan?

I take it you're not familiar with anything more than their recent history...

Oh, I remember plenty - not quite old enough to remember them moving from St. L...but I remember Timm Rosenbach, and Joe Bugel. I remember that they drafted Garrison Hearst. I remember they were almost decent, and then Buddy Ryan signed Seth Joyner and Boomer Esiason and then blew the whole thing up and quit at halftime of the Christmas Eve (or Night) game against the Cowboys. I remember Jake Plummer and Dave McGinist...

That's really my point; I'd rather be a Cardinals fan - the futility is not only acceptable, it's expected.

Whereas expecting this franchise to ever pull its collective head out if its ass and
actually be GREAT again??

Well, I just don't see it happening.

Todd Haley gets every single ounce of productivity from even the shittiest players on the roster (see : Matt Cassel)

Wherever he goes, I hope that team does well.

I am under no illusions that the Chiefs will be seriously competitive for a decade, at least.

Nobody listens to me. :cuss: :deevee: LMAO

what, that Todd's going back to Arizona?

Dude, Pittsburgh's defense gave up a ton of yards and points. Going no huddle always stresses your defense, and Haley not using it late in the game makes good solid sense to me, sorry.

I'm not a 'OMG Haley is awesome' guy. I think he had some good points and in some ways was in clearly over his head, but I think in Pittsburgh he's done a good job and did a good job yesterday in particular.

Oh, and another thing-
Roethlisberger threw what was basically a pick six in OT. He wants to hang the loss on Haley? **** him.

I'm kinda iffy on Haley, but I agree with this.

Blaming the playcalling when you throw away the game is weak sauce.

This.

And this.

Pioli!

Flashback 2009! :D

The talent on the line and especially at running back are a hell of a lot worse this year. That's not coaching, that's personnel. But all in all, the steelers are blocking with better technique and big Ben is getting rid of the ball a hell of a lot faster. Ben is upset because he can't freelance but you cannot have him do that at his age behind this offensive line.

Their offense has been very good this yea despite a lot of adversity. The steelers have built their team around the defense being stingy with points and aggressive I'm creating turnovers. They're not doing either. And so you have way too many games like yesterday where the offense is productive but you end up losing.

Kansas City - Where 20th ranked offenses is a good job.

Wouldn't shock me if he's gone from Pittsburgh. He's not a good fit there. They just got bumped from the playoffs and their offense took a step backwards.

Haley blows, but I'll bet the Cards want him as a HC.

WHY


why would anyone want that angry little man who blames everyone but his ****ing self when shit goes wrong?

Just because this season has been a horror story doesn't mean we need to get desperate and go after whoever is available, nobody seems to like that guy and so far he's ONLY proven he can win with Kurt Warner, Bolden and Fitzgerald.

I hate the off season talk, it's always filled with shit like this. Romeo sucks, and was a horrible choice, Haley sucks and is a horrible idea.

FFS bring some good ideas instead of this shit.

Dude, don't know if you've been watching this season and remembering the last 6 years, Pitt has taken a pretty big step back with Haley, that is painfully obvious and you have to be blind not to see his imprint on that team has not been good, decent or anything remotely close to previous years.

Their offense was improved in almost every single category until Ben got hurt. Then he came back and started choking like Linda Lovelace.

Much like KC, Haley is a scapegoat not the actual culprit.

I still wouldn't want Haley anywhere near my team if I were the Cardinals or any other team.

I have seen all but one Pittsburgh game and his "imprint" when you can see it, has been positive.

Roethlisberger chokes, Steelers lose, bitter Chief fans blame Haley.

Seems reasonable.

"Master of Discipline, Toughness, and Ass-Whipping"

That is the only role I would accept him back as.

Well bye...dude stinks

And yet he's not the real problem in Pittsburgh, just like here.

I would absolutely LOVE to have Haley back with Geno Smith as his qb.

Yeah. Drop your shoes at the door.

And he's still an egomaniac prick...

Midgets!!

Seriously? Is that the bar now? Todd Haley? Reach for the stars...woohoo.

Never said he wasn't.

He's also a dumbass. If he was smart, he wouldn't draw so much attention to himself.

It's really the ONLY reason a lot of Chief fans hate him.

No shit, that would rock.

Matt Cassel.

That makes no sense.

Is that like some kind of Tourette's Syndrome?

People here are ridiculously black or white. You either are 100% terrible or 100% awesome. Never any in between. And boy will people exaggerate to prove that point.

People acknowledge Haley was seriously hamstrung by a horrible gm and qb, yet they suggest that he should have won without him. I'm still trying to get an answer on what head coach would have succeeded under pioli with Matt cassel forced on him as a qb.

Well if Jack said it!!!!!!!!

Poor Todd


why is everyone always picking on him?

I don't know, because they wouldn't dare blame the person actually responsible because he wears Super Bowl rings?

Reach for the stars, Arizona. Christ.