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**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 **** (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280658)

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10370259)

Uh ok. Why?

Just to bring the discussion back to the main thread. There are good, funny, insightful, amusing, and/or relevant comments made.

Besides... onto the next one. :thumb:

Those are some great comments. Thanks for posting Rusty's wisdom. Chiefsfan987 called it.

I'm moving on now from the Melvins.

Oklahoma State. It's time for some big boy basketball.

In the last 9 years, KU's Big 12 road record (56-18) is better than all Big 12 teams at home but Texas (59-15). That's got to be Self's most remarkable accomplishment of all. I can't imagine any other major conference team in the NCAA would be even close to that kind of road record.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10370308)

I read that today and just... wow.

Bill Self, man. Everyone else is just fighting for second place.

Here's a stat I love: Oklahoma has a fine program with a winning record against all original Big 12 opponents except Kansas. Their record in Allen Fieldhouse? 7-44.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10370308)

And what, 8 losses at AFH? How many losses have Chiefs fans seen at Arrowhead in that time? Sporting fans? (Royals fans, har har). And half of those were in his first 3 years.

I remember the feeling I had when they first hired him, and if I could go back in time, I'd punch myself in the throat.

Yeah, we all know HCBS swings the gnarliest meat hammer in the B12.

Rustshack discusses the officiating

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I want to start this out by saying in no way were the officials the reason we lost. That being said it did have an impact. Also I didn't find a thread that this really fit in, and I know some people get mad when there are too many threads so if it is deemed it fits somewhere else then move it.

The officiating last night was pretty bad and if you don't think so then there are two reasons. Number one you don't understand basketball and number two you think it makes you superior because you don't criticize the officials. I have seen a decent amount of comments about the booing and such. I will start this off by talking about last year. If you don't think that last years game gave us the right to at least expect a fair game if not a favorable (getting the benefit of the doubt on 50/50 calls) then I don't know what to tell you. I would have been fine with an even game as long as Kansas didn't get obvious calls in their favor. Now why was the booing not fair. It was in response to Kansas calls and that should have been expected after last year.

The next thing I want to get to is Embiid. I want to start of by saying he is a freak and will be a great player in the NBA. I don't think there has been a better player in college since Durant. That being said he has a temper. The first flagrant call should have been a flagrant two. This is especially true since he got thrown out of the last game for a flagrant two. I don't get how you can forearm someone in the face and at the same time throw someone to the floor and only get a flagrant 1. There was also another play latter in the game where he poked someone in the face. I don't know if they looked at it or not, but due to the fact that he has a history of flagrant fouls in the last two I think that would be a flagrant 1. The next part about his game is that he is very physical. I don't think there were major problems with that but there were a few that I thought he should have been called for specifically the Sportscenter Top Ten play one. You can't watch that and say it was clean. It was an awesome block but that doesn't mean it wasn't a foul too. The last thing about his game which he will need to change to be successful at the next level is when he does his post moves I would guess the percentage is about 50% on the number of times he hooks around the defender. I know that others like Niang will get away with it some, but Embiid is obvious about it and it should be called.

I want to add a question for those that watched the game on tv. People have talked about the flagrant foul that the officials didn't want shown. My roommate said this was a different time then the flagrant on Embiid. He said it was on Wiggins. I was wondering which is the case as that was not shown.

Now we can get into the ticky tack stuff that you always have. I think Kansas got the benefit of the doubt more but maybe not. The one call that stands out of me was the one where Morris was called even though he couldn't play any better defense. Now we can debate these forever but we will never agree on those so I will leave it at that.

Now it comes to rebounding. I noticed it and talked about it after Oklahoma, but seeing it in person last night confirmed it. We will get position on box outs but are forced to go up one handed because we have to keep from being pushed completely out of the way by our opponents. This leads to the ball becoming a hot potato and allows the opponent to get the rebound or tip it out to a teammate. I don't expect this to always be called but it does need to be called sometimes. This is also where a lot of the complaining about the officials comes from the players. They are getting absolutely mauled and the officials will talk to them about not pushing on the other players. It happened a couple of times. There was one specifically after a timeout where the official was talking to Hogue and they didn't listen at all to him. Then the whole team gets mad and frustrated because you can't do anything.

I know that Hoiberg works the officials and he has done it a lot more this year. That being said I don't know what he needs to do, but it isn't working. Maybe we need to pull a Mangino or a Rhoads and call them out. It is utterly ridiculous that we are out physicalled and yet we can't play physical back.

I know this is a bit of a rant and such but it is beyond ridiculous. We can't always complain that it cost us the game. It didn't last night but that doesn't mean it wasn't bad. Think about it if the officiating was better we may have been able to play like absolute **** and still beat a Kansas team that played almost perfect minus the turnovers. That is why I am confident we are still a great team.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Is that really Rusty or is that someone else? I couldn't find this post on the link.

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10370642)

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Is that really Rusty or is that someone else? I couldn't find this post on the link.

I'm hoping it's not actually him, but who really knows. That post was the OP of the thread.

That ISU fan doesn't understand college basketball.

One of the more dumb fanbases in America.

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10369297)

I propose that we continue to do game threads for games and leave this thread for general KU hoops talk. That way it should take much longer to get to 5k.

And it also helps that my game thread last night turned out to be a win. :) Too bad I didn't get a chance to participate during the game. Was hooping at the Y and was having so much fun that I didn't even get home and showered and had dinner until after 9. Thank goodness for the invention of the DVR.

Your moment in the starlight is duly noted.:)

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Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10370653)

That ISU fan doesn't understand college basketball.

One of the more dumb fanbases in America.

Go to bed.