Bo's Pelini didn't do it.
 

*Edit:
By request, we've split out the posts from the Stanzi thread during which Bearcat and DaFace investigated Billay's denial of some fairly serious charges. You decide his guilt or innocence.

The Stanzi thread still exists and all posts remain intact but if you choose to comment on Bo's Pelini's denial, please utilize this thread.

Eh, you never know. I've found out a lot of information in the past hour's worth of research that would certainly be bannable if posted. I'll refrain, though.

Did you find my criminal record?

Among other things. Posting a BS claim of fraud on Phil's company's wall though? That's just bad form.

I don't even know the name of Phils company nor his last name how the **** would I do that with no information?

OK, maybe it was some other 27 year old who lives in the KC area who has a facebook profile that matches to your email address.

:shake:

We talking about Phil Phil or another Phil?

Phobia

I won't say much more though. I can't be 100% sure it's him, so I'll leave it at that.

This is complete and total bullshit. I don't turn 27 until Dec and i'll give you my e-mail address.

Lying Liar is lying.

When have I ever contacted a poster off of here?

Someone give billay's grandfather a ring so this thread can be complete.

Didn't someone call your grandpa?

Since i'm getting blamed for shit I didn't do it wasn't me.

2:29 -- You request access to CP's FB page
2:34 -- The same account that made the post on Phobia's page requests access to CP's FB page

~2:30 -- you're getting into it with DaFace in this thread

Odd coincidences all around, I guess.

Holy shit. ROFL Busted.

haha

Boom goes the dynamite.

Since I trust you I'll PM you my FB page and whatever info you need to clear my name.


It wasn't me.

:popcorn:

:hmmm: Seems at least on the surface pretty guilty behaviour and damn petty.

Again, you don't mess with peoples real lifes. Whoever it was needs to be banned.

The name I was told who wrote on Phobias FB isn't even mine. This is a bunch of bullshit. If I did it I would admit it.

you know how it works here, guilty until proven innocent.

Just give Bearcat or daface your real life stuff and they can clear your name publically.

That wouldn't really work in this case. The FB account in question is most likely a fake account from what I can tell.

I will loudly admit that I can't be 100% sure that it's him. But it's very highly coincidental. Like, astronomically so.

Just to make clear: I don't really care, and I apologize for derailing the thread (though it was pretty much already a train wreck). I'd be 100% fine if the last previous posts are erased from reality, as I certainly used "inside information" to arrive at the coincidences in the first place.

I sent my info to Bearcat and gladly will share anything else to erase my name from being falsely accused of harassing Phobia.

Regarding Billay's requests to remove a picture... that picture appears to be in public domain. I know he claims Clay used a bogus facebook account to obtain access to the picture but the dude's wall was wide open. I know I've seen that picture and several others on facebook. We'll honor requests to remove photoshopped pictures of dildos because that kind of NSFW picture isn't really allowed anyway but as far as we can tell, nobody broke any rules when they posted the picture of the ginger with the 10.5" biceps.

As far as the other accusations tying Billay to a post on my company's facebook page which said "I gave this man money and he never did any work"... I haven't even begun to look into that and I don't know what I'll do when I figure it out. It definitely seems fishy and pretty far below the belt.

THAT'S what I'm being accused of? ROFL

Well, yeah. And it's pretty damning that it disappeared from facebook 5 minutes after DaFace accused you of it earlier today.

Sure is i'd also take the time to make multiple Facebook accounts too.

So what would be my reasoning for doing this?

I didn't realize it was on 4th, my bad. He did give it a shot.

I don't know, dude. I haven't really looked too deeply into it. I remember the post showing up on my company's facebook wall weeks ago. I'm paraphrasing, "I paid this man a lot of money to do work on my house and he never showed up to do any work." Weeks ago.... then 5 minutes after you're confronted, the post and the account disappears from facebook.

What reason would anybody else have to do it? What reason would they have to remove it after you got accused of doing it?

Between the 2 of us we've pissed a lot of people off on here. I know and you know theres one guy who lurks around here and creates many fake accounts. I'm guessing if he'd take that much time on here to create fakes and **** with people he'd do the same on Facebook. Plus how would I get your last name and know where you worked at? Over what? You banning me for 2 days? Come on dude.

The account on facebook got deleted, too?

WOW

Seems like you're saying Joey probably did it. I doubt that. Joey is a friend despite the tough love I've had to show him. We talk off this board. Besides, why would he cover his tracks in 5 minutes when you're the one being accused. That seems entirely too efficient for you not to have been involved. I can't get anybody to do anything in 5 minutes unless I do it myself.

And how would someone like that 1) know the address you are registered on for Chiefsplanet and 2) have access to that e-mail account so that they could register a Facebook account with it?

Don't know but it's not able to be searched on any longer. Might just be a security setting.

Ironic that billay would use the word (that he couldnt even spell) earlier?

defamation

billay is as guilty as OJ, IMO.

My e-mail was public on here for awhile and you told me the guys name is Brooks. So I would have to create atleast 2 fake Facebook names to join Chiefsplanet, why?

Then I would have to find out Phils whole name and where he works. How would I do that?

un-possible

I don't know who did it but yes Joey has made fakes in the past so has Tom Cash and what's his name who contacted people at their work. Have I ever done that and what would my reasoning be?

Gonna need a link on that one.

Dude, Phils name and business are pretty common knowledge on here.

It wouldn't be hard.

Stop acting as if it would be, it makes you look desperate.

Honestly? You exposed Dave Lane earlier in this thread with relatively little provocation and only removed it once you realized that you might be banned for it. You also attempted to scare me by posting what you thought was my first name after I made the teasing shop of your picture.

DaFace says he's connected it to your email address. That's stupid. You're stupid. Good enough reason for me.

exibit number 1234392832895439854398

I'm really glad message boards let people like Billay shine. It was harder to showcase your complete stupidity back in the day.

Well, bye.

Because Dave Lane has his whole name in his screen name and I know him dumbass.

Doesn't change the fact that you were willing to post his personal information on a whim, or the fact that you attempted to do the same to me. You claim that you have no means or motive in what you're being accused of, but evidence in this very thread suggests otherwise.

hahaha

that makes it ok to post his full name (with middle initial) and address?

You are one dumb MF

I'm not even going to ban Brooks over this. He knows. We know. It just proves he's a dumb kid. I guess I'll just know to check ChiefsPlanet when reeruned shit shows up on my business facebook page(s).

In case we still need more evidence here, I remember that the post in question on Phobia's company's wall was made in the 20's in June. (Now that the page is hidden, I can't get to the exact date.)

Between June 18th and June 30th, billay was banned multiple times on ChiefsPlanet by...



Phobia.

I'd be careful with the name. I kind of think that name is someone else's that he just used to troll. I don't want to start a witch hunt for the wrong guy.

In that time period I made 2 fake Facebook names and found out Phobias name and business ROFL

LMAO....what the hell is going on here?

Ban that bitch

Seriously, this dude should get banned.

If anybody ever deserved to get banned for something...

I am usually on the side of the poster, but this was clearly way over the line.

He took it one step past what Skip did....which was just threaten to call TBGs boss.

I'll give you my name I already gave it to Bearcat. It's not me why would I lie about something that really is so small?

Yeah - I'm done with it. I had forgotten about it completely until tonight and the only thing distressing is that I really thought Billay was a pretty decent guy who was just trolling here. I also thought he was getting a lot better and I've said so in past weeks. But whatever. If people want to stoop to such levels and then play dumb when they're caught red-handed I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Dude you and me have gotten into it so many times and you even gave me your name and work #. Did I EVER post any of that shit on here? It's not me i'm being trolled.

Something that lies somewhere in between Jerry Springer and Judge Judy.

You used the same email to register for the bogus facebook account as is attached to your ChiefsPlanet account. Considering both places require authenticated email addresses, you're either in cahoots with a roommate or you're just a really bad liar.

Anybody could do all of that in under an hour.

Acting like it would be some huge task makes you look even more guilty.

You should just send Phil a sincere apology and take a self imposed 2 month ban...along with logging into that fake account on FB and post an apology on Phils facebook page.

Then, do as I said when this thread first started and call your parents and apologize.

Im sure they will return the favor.

It's a conspiracy. ROFL

Just for transparency in the evidence here (all times approximate, and names changed):

June 18-30 - billay is banned off and on by Phobia
June 25 - FB user "ABCDEFG" posts the following on Phobia's construction business's FB page:
Phobia responds that he doesn't know the person and life goes on.

(2 MONTHS LATER)

2:30pm - FB user "Bill Ay" requests access to the CP FB page
2:35pm - FB user "ABCDEFG" requests access to the CP FB page
7:30pm - Curious, DaFace grabs billay's email address from the CP database (PLAYERSNAME99@yahoo.com) and types it into Facebook, leading to FB user "ABCDEFG."
7:35pm - DaFace calls billay out in the thread.
7:40pm - Both the "ABCDEFG" and "Bill Ay" FB accounts become hidden.

I think a self imposed 3 month ban with a YouTube apology to Ricky Stanzi should do the trick.

Trying to mess with someone's business situation while there's a recession/depression/really weak recovery going on?

That's some cold shit.

The only apology that is owed is to me. It's not me. I haven't used that e-mail in over 5 years. Are you saying I randomly made a fake account with an e-mail I haven't used in 5 years just to write on Phils company page? ROFL

****ing with a mans business over some message board BS is some real pussy shit. For shame Billay!

1) It takes 30 seconds to create a FB account... you should stop acting like it's a lengthy process.

2) I've actually seen one of those accounts before, months ago, request access to CP's FB page... no idea if it was ever accepted, if that account was booted or left, but it's one of the same accounts that requested access today. So, one has actually been around for a while, and both disappeared shortly after this conversation started a couple of hours ago.

I'm not even angry about the whole thing. I should probably be livid but I'm just sad for the dude. I even like him. Still do. But he is one dumb kid for sure. Then he's all worried about a photoshop dildo picture preventing future employment opportunities for him and wants me to enforce that... after he's done this for real against me. The size of the balls on this kid are 3-4x larger than his biceps.

Welp I did evict my roomate about a month ago but i'd like to know how I could use an e-mail account I haven't used in 5 years to create a Facebook name? Then create another Facebook name with my CP handle? ROFL

No, you just had me answer a bunch of questions about service and then asked for my name and work number so you could order and Id donate half the sale spiff to the site.

What did you do?

Called a different company to order, instead.

Then, when they couldn't get you installed, you asked me questions about if the reasons they gave were legit.

Just another example off dishonesty, really.

Are you saying some hacker randomly grabbed your email address and then targeted my business randomly as well. Is this what you're trying to convey?

You are being a lot cooler about it than you should be. Especially, since he's still not owning up to it.

****ing with someone's business for no real reason is a criminal act IMO.

I'd also add that two different mods came to the same conclusion -- that "ABCDEFG" was billay -- based off two completely different sets of clues approximately 5 hours apart.

Actually I told you that it could be awhile because I was in the process of moving.

I had a guy come out and look at it for me because it was free installation. I asked you questions because I wasn't sure if the guy was legit or not but then you answered my questions so there was no reason for you to come out.

Someone showed up from this board a week ago asking for nude pictures from my Co workers. I asked for help from the mods and got none. Just wanted them to tell whoever did it to just knock it off. No harm no foul. Now I had to go through there ISP and get the info. Will address it with them privately.

Pretty bush league if you ask me that no.one would help. Nothing like the owner of the company asking me who and what chiefsplanet is. And why are they asking for nude pictures. Pretty uncomfortable.