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thabear04 11-15-2012 02:26 PM

Chiefs RG Jon Asamoah, WR Jon Baldwin Ruled Out Sunday
 
Kansas City Chiefs RG Jon Asamoah has been ruled out Sunday for the game against the Cincinnati Bengals.

This means that Russ Hochstein will start in his place at right guard. Hochstein was picked up earlier this season and hasn’t got much playing time.

The Chiefs also reported that Jon Baldwin would be out. This likely means that Steve Breaston will be active this week. I think Breaston could be good if he got some playing time and if Matt Cassel trusts him.

Jake O’Connell has also been ruled out, but I don’t think this is very significant because he doesn’t see much playing time as it is.
Do you think this will affect the Chiefs’ blocking this Sunday?

loochy 11-15-2012 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 9121228)
Do you think this will affect the Chiefs’ blocking this Sunday?

doesnt matter

BigMeatballDave 11-15-2012 02:30 PM

What is wrong with Asamoah?

That Cincy DL is gonna rape Cassel's face.

Titty Meat 11-15-2012 02:30 PM

Steve Breastons 6 catches all year will be the difference this week

BigMeatballDave 11-15-2012 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9121238)
Steve Breastons 6 catches all year will be the difference this week

I refuse to believe he is the problem this yr. He caught 61 last yr.

suds79 11-15-2012 02:34 PM

Russ Hochstein at Guard... Sweet.

Tank, tank, tank.

BourbonMan 11-15-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9121237)
What is wrong with Asamoah?

Chiefs guard Asamoah to miss Bengals game after having thumb surgery

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/15...#storylink=cpy

:hmmm:..Conspiracy, was seen talking and giving a hug to Haley on Monday night.:hmmm:

Chiefnj2 11-15-2012 02:37 PM

Breaston should tweak his hammy tomorrow. No point risking an injury for a team that has disrespected you because the old coach brought you in.

HoneyBadger 11-15-2012 02:38 PM

Well shit...

BourbonMan 11-15-2012 02:38 PM

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KCrockaholic 11-15-2012 02:40 PM

Russ played a few snaps last week. Didn't think he looked that bad for a career back up and guy who just joined the team mid season. With that said, Geno Atkins will duck his world on Sunday. Can't wait. Cassel might die....

RealSNR 11-15-2012 02:40 PM

Clark: "The black out is because fans are frustrated that the Chiefs are losing, and we're losing games like this because we don't have all our pieces."

KCrockaholic 11-15-2012 02:40 PM

Damn auto correct.

Frosty 11-15-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 9121228)
Jake O’Connell has also been ruled out,


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notorious 11-15-2012 02:41 PM

If it Baldwin's injury recovery is as fast as his start off the line it will be awhile.

thabear04 11-15-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BourbonMan (Post 9121257)
Chiefs guard Asamoah to miss Bengals game after having thumb surgery

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/15...#storylink=cpy

:hmmm:..Conspiracy, was seen talking and giving a hug to Haley on Monday night.:hmmm:

Well Hell move Alberts to his guard spot and start are Rookie at LT

Titty Meat 11-15-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9121246)
I refuse to believe he is the problem this yr. He caught 61 last yr.

I never said he was a problem but he's vastly overrated on here.

RealSNR 11-15-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9121285)
I never said he was a problem but he's vastly overrated on here.

He's a dependable WR, but needs a great QB to really make him shine like some people think he's capable of doing.

Since we don't have one, he looks like overrated garbage.

KCrockaholic 11-15-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 9121279)
Well Hell move Alberts to his guard spot and start are Rookie at LT

... I pity a foo

KCrockaholic 11-15-2012 02:47 PM

Playing Breaston is an upgrade over Baldwin.

Frosty 11-15-2012 02:47 PM

The hits to Baldwin, Quinn and Cassel this year that led to concussions really haven't looked that bad. Either it's worse than it seems on TV or Pioli bought discount helmets to save a couple of bucks.

notorious 11-15-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9121299)
Playing Breaston is an upgrade over Baldwin.

It's a HUGE upgrade.

suds79 11-15-2012 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9121299)
Playing Breaston is an upgrade over Baldwin.

It really is.

What does Breaston have to do on Sunday to fill Baldwin's shoes?

What? 1 catch for 14 yards?.. I'd say that's about right.

scho63 11-15-2012 03:07 PM

That Jon Baldwin has been one hell of a 1st RD pick....

tyton75 11-15-2012 03:08 PM

How is a OG not playing in a game due to a thumb injury?!? Steve DeBerg played QB with a crushed pinkie!

pussies.

InChiefsHeaven 11-15-2012 03:14 PM

ROFL
Quote:

Originally Posted by BourbonMan (Post 9121269)
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BlackHelicopters 11-15-2012 03:16 PM

Well, what now?

DTLB58 11-15-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9121346)
Well, what now?

1-9 :p

BigMeatballDave 11-15-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9121285)
I never said he was a problem but he's vastly overrated on here.

61 catches for a #2 is not bad. In a running offense with shitstained QBs.

He did last season what he's done in Arizona. He's not overrated.

Titty Meat 11-15-2012 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9121379)
61 catches for a #2 is not bad. In a running offense with shitstained QBs.

He did last season what he's done in Arizona. He's not overrated.

2 touchdowns all last season which came in 1 game and didn't do much when Orton was the QB. His numbers go down when he's not around Haley. The guy isn't a #2 WR and should be dumped at the end of the year with the rest of the WR's minus Bowe.

Chief_For_Life58 11-15-2012 03:55 PM

who cares. rule everyone out. have rockhurst highschool play the bengals instead. prolly be a closer game

Chief_For_Life58 11-15-2012 04:02 PM

OH NO JAKE THE BONECRUSHER OCONNELL IS OUT?!?!? WHATRE WE GONNA DO????

saphojunkie 11-15-2012 04:08 PM

I think this team could still win a lot of games. We signed Kevni Boss and Peyton Hills so all they have to do is show up like in 2010 and then teams won't be able to cover evreyone

rabblerouser 11-15-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9121387)
His numbers go down when he's not around Haley.

It sure looks like everyone's numbers have went down without Haley...

I sense a trend.

rabblerouser 11-15-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9121443)
I think this team could still win a lot of games. We signed Kevni Boss and Peyton Hills so all they have to do is show up like in 2010 and then teams won't be able to cover evreyone

Yeah.

That's gonna get it done, all right.

Kevin Boss and Peyton Hillis are gonna get this thing turned around...

:clap:

Pasta Little Brioni 11-15-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9121274)
Clark: "The black out is because fans are frustrated that the Chiefs are losing, and we're losing games like this because we don't have all our pieces."

He'll fire Pioli, only to stick a fake mustache on and rehire him.

whoman69 11-15-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9121443)
I think this team could still win a lot of games. We signed Kevni Boss and Peyton Hills so all they have to do is show up like in 2010 and then teams won't be able to cover evreyone

Uhm, Boss is on IR since doctors won't release him to play the rest of the year with a head injury.

Frosty 11-15-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9121487)
Uhm, Boss is on IR since doctors won't release him to play the rest of the year with a head injury.

Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken but I think he is ripping on the people that said that in the off-season. :shrug:

TEX 11-15-2012 05:17 PM

Wow, didn't know Baldwin was still on the team until I saw a player get hurt against the Steelers and the anouncers said his name...:hmmm:

I'm betting he won't be missed...

the Talking Can 11-15-2012 05:29 PM

4 years of pioli and our WR core is worse than ever

Baldwin = worthless
mccluster = clown
breaston = benched
moeaki = ghost

Hammock Parties 11-15-2012 06:13 PM

Outstanding.

A terrible rookie LG and a brokedick veteran RG should go along way towards ****ing our shit up.

notorious 11-15-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9121613)
4 years of pioli and our WR core is worse than ever

Baldwin = worthless
mccluster = clown
breaston = benched
moeaki = ghost

B b b b bbbbut we had one of the best WR cores in the NFL!


:facepalm:


We should take every fluff piece written about Baldwin, roll them up and jam them straight up the propaganda spewing media's ass.

bevischief 11-15-2012 06:14 PM

We suck again...

notorious 11-15-2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9121744)
We still suck

FYP

saphojunkie 11-15-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 9121490)
Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken but I think he is ripping on the people that said that in the off-season. :shrug:

You are the winner! :)

bevischief 11-15-2012 06:24 PM

At least it could be worse, your wife could have dragged you to watch the new Twilight movie...

DeezNutz 11-15-2012 07:13 PM

Bowe = extremely productive from the start with garbage QBs, and fans consistently whip shit on him.

Baldwin = no production in the regular season and fans fluff(ed) him repeatedly.

Embarrassing.

Chief3188 11-15-2012 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9121387)
2 touchdowns all last season which came in 1 game and didn't do much when Orton was the QB. His numbers go down when he's not around Haley. The guy isn't a #2 WR and should be dumped at the end of the year with the rest of the WR's minus Bowe.

Your opinion in this matter frankly.. matters not. You were a Cassel defender and should be treated as such.

BourbonMan 11-15-2012 08:46 PM

I usually agree with most everybody when it comes to how bad certain players are playing..But I'm going to disagree on Baldwin.

I think he is a good player, but has not been developed correctly...of course how can anybody be developed correctly under this screwd up management.

Dave Lane 11-15-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9121246)
I refuse to believe he is the problem this yr. He caught 61 last yr.

Pioli being vindictive Pioli, god I hate that ****er.

stevieray 11-15-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9121846)
Bowe = extremely productive from the start with garbage QBs, and fans consistently whip shit on him.

Baldwin = no production in the regular season and fans fluff(ed) him repeatedly.

Embarrassing.

I like what Gruden said the other night..guy has to show he's the real deal, and he hasn't.

...he's a big target, but he either runs crappy routes,(ie separation) or is just going through the motions.

BigMeatballDave 11-15-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 9122136)
I like what Gruden said the other night..guy has to show he's the real deal, and he hasn't.

...he's a big target, but he either runs crappy routes,(ie separation) or is just going through the motions.

:spock:

Yes. It's all Bowe's fault.

Not the shitty 9 QBs that he's caught passes from.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-16-2012 11:34 AM

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Albert, Allen, Hochstein Winston, Stephenson. that's right, Winston at right guard

The Franchise 11-16-2012 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9123238)
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Albert, Allen, Hochstein Winston, Stephenson. that's right, Winston at right guard

Lilja is hurt?

Chiefnj2 11-16-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BourbonMan (Post 9122125)
I usually agree with most everybody when it comes to how bad certain players are playing..But I'm going to disagree on Baldwin.

I think he is a good player, but has not been developed correctly...of course how can anybody be developed correctly under this screwd up management.

Yet McCluster can get open and get looks from the QB.

Even with horrible QB's and revolving OC's etc, Bowe, Breaston, Moeaki and McCluster were all able to be put into the game plan and get the ball thrown their way over the last few years. For some reason Baldwin hasn't, and that reason isn't solely the QB.

ShowtimeSBMVP 11-16-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9123243)
Lilja is hurt?

Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Ryan Lilja is on the exercise bike at chiefs practice so he will obviously be added to their injury list.

The Franchise 11-16-2012 11:38 AM

Cassel is going to have to file rape charges after this game.

Rausch 11-16-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 9121228)
Kansas City Chiefs RG Jon Asamoah has been ruled out Sunday for the game against the Cincinnati Bengals.

...

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bevischief 11-16-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9123250)
Cassel is going to have to file rape charges after this game.

ROFL

notorious 11-16-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9123250)
Cassel is going to have to file rape charges after this game.

Against the fans or his O-Line?

Scary as this sounds, but he played better with that horrible line year 1 than he does today. Think about THAT......

Easy 6 11-16-2012 11:48 AM

Talk about a patchwork line, mother of pearl.

Hochstein was at home until failoi called him because no one else wanted his career journeyman ass.

Sorter 11-16-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9123238)
Adam Teicher ‏@adamteicher

Albert, Allen, Hochstein Winston, Stephenson. that's right, Winston at right guard

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-conte...UZY1rnvwt1.gif

Hammock Parties 11-16-2012 01:07 PM

LMAO

Is this staff ****ing real? We're gonna play Stephenson?

LMAO

LMAO


LMAO



LMAO

Buckweath 11-16-2012 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9123437)
LMAO

Is this staff ****ing real? We're gonna play Stephenson?

LMAO

LMAO


LMAO



LMAO

What's wrong with that? Win-win situation... if Stephenson plays well, it's a positive sign for the future, if he plays bad, he helps the #1 overall pick quest.

BigMeatballDave 11-16-2012 01:30 PM

Its gonna be an ugly 9th loss LOL

The Franchise 11-16-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9123471)
What's wrong with that? Win-win situation... if Stephenson plays well, it's a positive sign for the future, if he plays bad, he helps the #1 overall pick quest.

Positive sign for the future of what? We already have our LT and RT.

HemiEd 11-16-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 9121279)
Well Hell move Alberts to his guard spot and start are Rookie at LT

Glad I bought a decoder ring last year.

HemiEd 11-16-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9121740)
B b b b bbbbut we had one of the best WR cores in the NFL!


:facepalm:


We should take every fluff piece written about Baldwin, roll them up and jam them straight up the propaganda spewing media's ass.

I just don't agree with the Baldwin hate, sorry. Helloooooooooo, he has ****ing Cassel throwing to him on the rare occasion he isn't locked on to Bowe or McCluster.

I think Monday night was the first time I recall Cassel going to his second read since he has been a Chief.

I for one still believe in Baldwin and would love to see him get a chance with a legit QB, or even a mediocre QB similar to Orton.

Chiefnj2 11-16-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9123541)
I just don't agree with the Baldwin hate, sorry. Helloooooooooo, he has ****ing Cassel throwing to him on the rare occasion he isn't locked on to Bowe or McCluster.

I think Monday night was the first time I recall Cassel going to his second read since he has been a Chief.

I for one still believe in Baldwin and would love to see him get a chance with a legit QB, or even a mediocre QB similar to Orton.

How was Breaston and Moeaki able to get on Cassel's radar?

Buckweath 11-16-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9123485)
Positive sign for the future of what? We already have our LT and RT.

A reliable backup in case a starter goes down or whatever happens?? Did I really need to explain that?

HemiEd 11-16-2012 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9123720)
How was Breaston and Moeaki able to get on Cassel's radar?

Yeah, they are both lighting it up right now with Cassel.

Moeaki is averaging less than two catches per game, look out Tony G! In 2010, we all know that the running game of Jamaal Charles made the short passing game work.

I am not sure Breaston has even been active yet this season, has he?

**edit** silly me, he has been active for 8 games, and has 6 catches out of 12 targets. 50%, there is some fail there somewhere, but it is not Baldwin.

Yeah, it is all Baldwin's fault. ROFL

We are talking about the 2012 Matt Cassel right, the one that Baldwin has been trying to play with?

Chiefnj2 11-16-2012 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9123833)
Yeah, they are both lighting it up right now with Cassel.

Moeaki is averaging less than two catches per game, look out Tony G! In 2010, we all know that the running game of Jamaal Charles made the short passing game work.

I am not sure Breaston has even been active yet this season, has he?

We are talking about the 2012 Matt Cassel right, the one that Baldwin has been trying to play with?

Breaston isn't active, but when he was he caught the ball. He's blackballed because he was a Haley player.

The fact is that in other years guys like Breaston and Moeaki (when he wasn't injured as a rookie) could get open and catch the ball, something Baldwin hasn't been able to do.

The Franchise 11-16-2012 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9123726)
A reliable backup in case a starter goes down or whatever happens?? Did I really need to explain that?

Yeah....because that's always a good thing to get with a 3rd round pick.

:facepalm:

HemiEd 11-16-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 9123846)
Breaston isn't active, but when he was he caught the ball. He's blackballed because he was a Haley player.

The fact is that in other years guys like Breaston and Moeaki (when he wasn't injured as a rookie) could get open and catch the ball, something Baldwin hasn't been able to do.

Actually, that is not true. Breaston and Moeaki both have a lesser catch per target percentage than Baldwin does. Breaston has been active 8 games, and CP believes he is being held back for being a Todd Haley player.

Baldwin is actually a little over 50%, and both of those guys are exactly 50%.

Baldwin is trying to play with the 2012 version of Matt Cassel, and he is out performing both of those guys with the same QB.

In 2010, we all know why Cassel was "statistically" successful, and his name was Jamaal Charles.

Easy 6 11-16-2012 05:14 PM

Baldwin is worth keeping for now, no doubt about it imo.

Most wr's take 2-3 years to become an efficient machine, throw in the fact that he's on a team in stage 9 meltdown... yeah, i've seen enough flash to want to see what more there is on a stable team.

Setsuna 11-16-2012 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9123943)
Baldwin is worth keeping for now, no doubt about it imo.

Most wr's take 2-3 years to become an efficient machine, throw in the fact that he's on a team in stage 9 meltdown... yeah, i've seen enough flash to want to see what more there is on a stable team.

FALSE.

HemiEd 11-16-2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9123943)
Baldwin is worth keeping for now, no doubt about it imo.

Most wr's take 2-3 years to become an efficient machine, throw in the fact that he's on a team in stage 9 meltdown... yeah, i've seen enough flash to want to see what more there is on a stable team.

Baldwin hasn't even had an opportunity to show what he has. I am not sure how you can judge any receiver right now with Cassel launching his wobbles at his first read almost exclusively, if he actually gets a pass off before going fetal.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2012 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9124272)
Baldwin hasn't even had an opportunity to show what he has. I am not sure how you can judge any receiver right now with Cassel launching his wobbles at his first read almost exclusively, if he actually gets a pass off before going fetal.

Baldwin has had plenty of opportunity. He struggles to get open because he is just not very quick, and you can see it when the ball is in his hands.

He has straight line speed (4.4, not even elite speed) and elite jumping ability. That's it.

Other receivers have had plenty of success with Cassel throwing. Bowe, Breaston, Chris Chambers for a few games in 2009, Wes Welker and Randy Moss in New England. Tony Moeaki was very good as a rookie.

Baldwin is a bust. He's Mike Williams II. A big guy with some speed who can't get open against NFL DBs. It says a lot about what the Chiefs think about his abilities that he hasn't received a single jump ball in the red zone this year.

He's just not very good. Scott Pioli has this bugaboo about drafting physical specimens. He falls in love with height/weight. That's why he picked Baldwin. That's why he picked Tyson Jackson. That's why he picked Dontari Poe.

Baldwin is not a bust yet. But next year, when he has about 15 catches after Week 8, he will be.

Titty Meat 11-16-2012 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 9124272)
Baldwin hasn't even had an opportunity to show what he has. I am not sure how you can judge any receiver right now with Cassel launching his wobbles at his first read almost exclusively, if he actually gets a pass off before going fetal.

This isn't true.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2012 11:44 PM

Baldwin is 111th in yards per pass route run.

That's a pretty bad stat when you have 193 pass snaps.


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