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Mr. Laz 01-27-2013 03:49 PM

Jake Long wants “at least” $10 million per
 
Report: Jake Long wants “at least” $10 million annually

Posted by Evan Silva on January 27, 2013, 4:37 PM EST

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Jake Long was once considered in many circles to be the best left tackle in football. His stock has fallen off dramatically due to myriad injuries and declining performance, and he’s slated to hit a deep free-agent market for offensive tackles this March.

Long’s monetary expectations remain high. Citing people who have spoken to the Dolphins’ front office, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reports Long is believed to be seeking “at least $10 million a year” and the Fins are “pessimistic” about their chances of retaining him.

Jackson adds that Long “scoffed” at the Dolphins’ in-season extension offer.

Long turns 28 in May and there are indications his body is breaking down, so we can’t fault him for pursuing every last dollar on his first ever opportunity to test free agency. With the way things have gone for him recently, this could conceivably be Long’s final substantial pay day the NFL.

He’s just probably not going to get it from the Dolphins.

DJ's left nut 01-27-2013 03:51 PM

In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

RealSNR 01-27-2013 03:51 PM

Think he'd play guard for us?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-27-2013 03:53 PM

I wonder what he's going to do for work that will pay him that.

mcaj22 01-27-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9355578)
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

dont let that crazy Michigan homer on here read this.

AndChiefs 01-27-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9355582)
I wonder what he's going to do for work that will pay him that.

Same thing Cassel's been doing for ***** the last few years?

Mr. Flopnuts 01-27-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 9355589)
Same thing Cassel's been doing for ***** the last few years?

Yeah, bad timing for Jake that Scooter is out of the league.

Mother****erJones 01-27-2013 03:58 PM

Good he can get that somewhere else we got our Stud LT! Albert will be back

mcaj22 01-27-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9355590)
Yeah, bad timing for Jake that Scooter is out of the league.


His equally stupid friend Michael Lombardi is about to ruin the Browns though

so theres that

SAUTO 01-27-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9355584)
dont let that crazy Michigan homer on here read this.

I don't think he had said he is the best. Top five is what I remember
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tk13 01-27-2013 03:59 PM

Sign him, move Albert to guard. Draft Joeckel at 1 and put him at RT to start... we will dominate!

keg in kc 01-27-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9355584)
dont let that crazy Michigan homer on here read this.

I don't think many of us Michigan homers thought he should've gone first. Or that he was ever the best.

Joe Thomas was a much better prospect.

htismaqe 01-27-2013 04:00 PM

I'd gladly give him $10M per year just to never hear "Luke Joeckel" ever again.

BossChief 01-27-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9355578)
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

He was the first team AP all pro in 2010 and second team all pro by the AP in 09.

mcaj22 01-27-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9355603)
I don't think he had said he is the best. Top five is what I remember
Posted via Mobile Device

the argument was actually him saying not only was Jake Long significantly better than Brandon Albert, but we should give up a draft pick for him (3rd, 4th, 5th) and pay him whatever money he wants. And then claimed that Albert was maybe a top 15 LT at best.

dirk digler 01-27-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9355605)
Sign him, move Albert to guard. Draft Joeckel at 1 and put him at RT to start... we will dominate!

and don't forget Cassel as the starter. PRINT EM

mcaj22 01-27-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9355616)
He was the first team AP all pro in 2010 and second team all pro by the AP in 09.

and it is now the year 2013

the what have you done for me lately league.

and lately, Jake Long is on a downhill slope to overrated turdsville

Hammock Parties 01-27-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9355578)
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

He was before he got hurt. Darn near, anyway.

Last two years he's been pretty average.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-27-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9355578)
In what circle was Jake Long ever considered the best left tackle in football?

The True Fan cul-de-sac, which is directly across from ****tard Mountain.

DJ's left nut 01-27-2013 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9355648)
He was before he got hurt. Darn near, anyway.

Last two years he's been pretty average.

I'd have still said Thomas and (ugh) Clady were better than him; at least more versatile. Hell, Jason Peters would've been in that discussion as well; he was great when healthy.

I don't argue that he wasn't a very good tackle (he was). But the best? I can't see it.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-27-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9355616)
He was the first team AP all pro in 2010 and second team all pro by the AP in 09.

He was also overrated those years too. In one of them Peppers whipped his ass to a level rarely seen in the NFL. He had at least three sacks against him and multiple other pressures.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-27-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9355606)
I don't think many of us Michigan homers thought he should've gone first. Or that he was ever the best.

Joe Thomas was a much better prospect.

Austin Chief was very, very high on him.

Sfeihc 01-27-2013 04:26 PM

This crazy Michigan homer never thought he was the best LT in football. We all know that Albert is........

Hammock Parties 01-27-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9355676)
The True Fan cul-de-sac, which is directly across from ****tard Mountain.

I know that place! It's just around the corner from Barry's Koolaid stand!

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-27-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus (Post 9355691)
I know that place! It's just around the corner from Fece's Koolaid stand!

That meth-teeth-having mother****er deleted all my taunts from his YouTube video calling out SoC. I'm sure he's off somewhere hitting the light bulb right now. If we're lucky, he mishandled some anhydrous and it sucked all the moisture from his lungs leaving him a a suffocating, dessicated corpse next to some agricultural co-op.

BlackHelicopters 01-27-2013 04:53 PM

People in hell want ice water, too.

Frankie 01-27-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9355579)
Think he'd play guard for us?

His name is not Cassel or Quinn, so I'm pretty sure he can play QB for us.

AussieChiefsFan 01-27-2013 06:11 PM

LMAO

Coach 01-27-2013 06:15 PM

I'd pay Jake Long $1 to go the **** away.

Setsuna 01-27-2013 07:10 PM

Just move Pouncey to LT and release him. He's stupid.

HotCarl 01-27-2013 07:21 PM

He got 5/$57 when he was drafted, so he is not really asking for a pay raise.

Besides, you can ask for whatever you want, but the market will only bear what it will bear. It's always a value for the cap dollar equation

Sorter 01-27-2013 07:50 PM

Good luck with that Mr. Long.

Ace Gunner 01-27-2013 08:29 PM

ROFL

MikeMaslowski 01-27-2013 08:37 PM

Off topic a bit... My first radio DJ name was supposed to be Jake Long(now that I look at it I wasn't that creative) then I decided "Woody Long" would be nice but the station said they couldn't have a 15 yo kid on air with that name... +1 post count...got a lot of time to make up for.

AustinChief 01-27-2013 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9355621)
the argument was actually him saying not only was Jake Long significantly better than Brandon Albert, but we should give up a draft pick for him (3rd, 4th, 5th) and pay him whatever money he wants. And then claimed that Albert was maybe a top 15 LT at best.

No, if you're going to be a moron at least get the facts straight while doing so.

I said IF Albert wants more money than he is worth and we can't sign him, then we shouldn't draft a LT but should look at Jake Long since he IS an upgrade IF he is healthy (which is a huge if). Jake Long has (until this year with all the injuries) consistently been thought of as a top 5 LT by pretty much everyone in football.

And I have never said Albert is MAYBE a top 15 LT, I said he is definitely top 15 but NOT top 8. He simply isn't. No amount of kool aid will change that fact. That isn;t to say that he couldn't be, as Milkman has stated, Albert still has some upside while a guy like Long has topped out. I think he's right on that.

AustinChief 01-27-2013 09:03 PM

And to be clear on this, I'd RATHER we just sign Albert to a reasonable contract. Which is what I think will happen.

Setsuna 01-27-2013 09:19 PM

Now that I think about it, Bowe didn't even make that much. Long needs to STFU or GTFO. He probably hates Miami anyway since they aren't going anywhere.

1. Make an unreasonable demand.
2. Get traded to the Colts.
3. ????
4. Profit

BossChief 01-27-2013 10:16 PM

I bet a handful of these free agents get straight up stupid deals from the teams that need to get to the cap floor.

AustinChief 01-27-2013 11:26 PM

You guys do realize that the franchise tag for a LT is going to be around $15.5 million, right? IF Long is healthy, $10 million isn't that big of a reach at all.

BossChief 01-27-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9357428)
You guys do realize that the franchise tag for a LT is going to be around $15.5 million, right? IF Long is healthy, $10 million isn't that big of a reach at all.

I've read it will be closer to 10...maybe even below it.

rocknrolla 01-27-2013 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9357055)
And to be clear on this, I'd RATHER we just sign Albert to a reasonable contract. Which is what I think will happen.

From all I have seen and read I believe it will happen. With Longs injuries this year, I see him sitting next to daddy in 5 years.

Strongside 01-27-2013 11:50 PM

I want at least ten mil a year as well. Doesn't mean I get it.

AustinChief 01-27-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9357445)
I've read it will be closer to 10...maybe even below it.

Where have you read that??? I have seen it as anywhere from 15.4 to 15.6 in literally dozens of places.

Setsuna 01-28-2013 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9357527)
Where have you read that??? I have seen it as anywhere from 15.4 to 15.6 in literally dozens of places.

There goes AC flying off the handle again. Hide yo wife, hide yo....:evil:

ncCHIEFfan 01-28-2013 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 9357481)
From all I have seen and read I believe it will happen. With Longs injuries this year, I see him sitting next to daddy in 5 years.

Ummm...:doh!: you do know that Jake is not Howie's...Oh just forget it:spock:

RUSH 01-28-2013 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9357527)
Where have you read that??? I have seen it as anywhere from 15.4 to 15.6 in literally dozens of places.

Quote:

CB: Franchise: $10.668 Transition: $8.939

DE: Franchise: $10.984 Transition: $8.994

DT: Franchise: $8.306 Transition: $6.919

K/P: Franchise: $2.926 Transition: $2.654

LB: Franchise: $9.455 Transition: $8.216

OL: Franchise: $9.660 Transition: $8.560

QB: Franchise: $14.642 Transition: $12.845

RB: Franchise: $8.079 Transition: $6.851

S: Franchise: $6.798 Transition: $5.899

TE: Franchise: $5.962 Transition: $5.105

WR: Franchise: $10.357 Transition: $8.716
http://m.nfl.com/news/0ap1000000117300/

CoMoChief 01-28-2013 05:58 AM

Jake Long made Tamba Hali look stupid a couple years ago IIRC

AustinChief 01-28-2013 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUSH (Post 9357673)

I was wrong. I was reading it in every article discussing specific LTs and what they would be owed if franchised and so I assumed that was the number. I was right that if Miami tags him he will get $15.4 million or so...

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As for the franchise tag, the tender for an offensive lineman in 2012 was worth $9.383 million and will remain in that area as the salary cap is expected to remain flat in 2013. However, that won't matter for Long as his franchise tag would be worth $15.36 million, 120 percent his 2012 cap number of $12.8 million.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-28-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9355610)
I'd gladly give him $10M per year just to never hear "Luke Joeckel" ever again.

this

htismaqe 01-28-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9357686)
I was wrong. I was reading it in every article discussing specific LTs and what they would be owed if franchised and so I assumed that was the number. I was right that if Miami tags him he will get $15.4 million or so...

And BlackBob actually believed that we would TAG Albert and still draft Joeckel at #1 overall...

Amnorix 01-28-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9355598)
His equally stupid friend Michael Lombardi is about to ruin the Browns though

so theres that


This raises an interesting philosophical question -- can you really "ruin" a team like the Browns, which have been a complete mess for over a decade now? There's really nowhere to go but up.

Fat Elvis 01-28-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9358105)
This raises an interesting philosophical question -- can you really "ruin" a team like the Browns, which have been a complete mess for over a decade now? There's really nowhere to go but up.

...paging Scott Pioli...

Sorter 01-28-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 9358105)
This raises an interesting philosophical question -- can you really "ruin" a team like the Browns, which have been a complete mess for over a decade now? There's really nowhere to go but up.

Oh, one can always add more kindling and gasoline to an already burning dumpster fire.

DJ's left nut 01-28-2013 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9357686)
I was wrong. I was reading it in every article discussing specific LTs and what they would be owed if franchised and so I assumed that was the number. I was right that if Miami tags him he will get $15.4 million or so...

Wow. I never knew that rule.

An interesting note to take from that is that I guess that would place Bowe's franchise figure at about $12.4 million vs. 9.6 for Albert.

$3 million in cap space can do a lot of things for this club. It once again emphasizes my thought that Bowe should be the guy we extend long-term while letting Albert play the season under the franchise tag.

NJChiefsFan 01-28-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9358144)
...paging Scott *****...

ROFL Game, set, match.

saphojunkie 01-28-2013 04:59 PM

This is why I ****ing hate the whole "draft Joeckel and your left tackle position is set for the next 10-15 years!"

Bullshit.

Your LT is set for the next four years, until your guy is ready to get his big second contract.

Assuming we can sign Albert for at least four years, what's the ****ing difference? You can't just re-draft a franchise left tackle every four years in perpetuity, constantly avoiding re-signing him as a veteran.

God I hate everyone who thinks the Chiefs should draft joeckel under ANY circumstances except "Branden Albert has spine AIDS."

HotCarl 01-28-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9359100)
This is why I ****ing hate the whole "draft Joeckel and your left tackle position is set for the next 10-15 years!"

Bullshit.

Your LT is set for the next four years, until your guy is ready to get his big second contract.

Assuming we can sign Albert for at least four years, what's the ****ing difference?

Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359110)
Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

...and an absolute waste of a 2-14 season. Number one overall pick and we don't improve the team one bit with the pick.

Sorter 01-28-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359110)
Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

Drafting Joeckel means you're probably going to have your pick of either Manuel or Landry Jones as your franchise QB.

Additionally, I'm curious as to why people are just writing Donald Stephenson off like chopped liver.

Good QBs make their OL better. Barry Richardson didn't give up a sack in the 3 games he played with Orton. That should be all the reasoning you need to take Geno at 1.1

htismaqe 01-28-2013 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359110)
Joeckel would be healthy, and 6 years younger.

You're assuming Albert isn't healthy. We have no proof that he isn't.

Joeckel being 6 years younger means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.

notorious 01-28-2013 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9359119)
...and an absolute waste of a 2-14 season. Number one overall pick and we don't improve the team one bit with the pick.

/mother ****ing thread

HotCarl 01-28-2013 05:13 PM

I forgot to mention that Albert has peaked as a player, and Joeckel has a ceiling that is a lot higher. It's a gamble, but could be a significant upgrade.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2013 05:15 PM

This HAS to be that ****stick Knowmo.

Sorter 01-28-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359130)
I forgot to mention that Albert has peaked as a player, and Joeckel has a ceiling that is a lot higher. It's a gamble, but could be a significant upgrade.

https://i.minus.com/iD7csirbk2rHr.gif

HotCarl 01-28-2013 05:17 PM

How would it be a waste of a 2-14 season?

If you're temporarily wealthy, you don't buy the highest priced thing on the shelf just because it's got the highest price.

Sorter 01-28-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359140)
How would it be a waste of a 2-14 season?

If you're temporarily wealthy, you don't buy the highest priced thing on the shelf just because it's got the highest price.

You do if it has higher potential, fits a need, and is the most important thing to have.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2013 05:18 PM

Who's mult is this?

The Franchise 01-28-2013 05:19 PM

Well I see that Blackbob has come around again.

HotCarl 01-28-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9359142)
You do if it has higher potential, fits a need, and is the most important thing to have.

Why waste so much draft value, when we've never in the franchise's history had more to spend?

We could pick someone at #1 who is a worthy #1 overall talent. Or we could pick someone the caliber of which we could have gotten any other year drafting in the teens.

It's a difference of philosophy. Some people want us to stay in our lanes and maximize value in the draft. Some of us want to reach for positions of need.

Sometimes, either one is appropriate. Right now, because we need to change over 2/3 of the roster, I'm in favor of maximizing value.

notorious 01-28-2013 05:22 PM

God Damnit.


Sigh, it's not worth the effort to kick a Truefan in the nuts.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2013 05:25 PM

They'd rather get "value" than win a ****ing Super Bowl, lol.

Sorter 01-28-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359150)
Why waste so much draft value, when we've never in the franchise's history had more to spend?

We could pick someone at #1 who is a worthy #1 overall talent. Or we could pick someone the caliber of which we could have gotten any other year drafting in the teens.

It's a difference of philosophy. Some people want us to stay in our lanes and maximize value in the draft. Some of us want to reach for positions of need.

Sometimes, either one is appropriate. Right now, because we need to change over 2/3 of the roster, I'm in favor of maximizing value.

Why is it a waste to draft the best quarterback in the draft when you can and it fills a position of need?

Tackles are needed but severely overrated. Above average QB play drastically improves your OL. Barry Richardson, arguably the worst pass blocking tackle in the NFL the last 3 years didn't give up a sack with an average QB in Orton and you really want to waste the opportunity to get the best QB available in favor of a ****ing LT?

HotCarl 01-28-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9359162)
Why is it a waste to draft the best quarterback in the draft when you can and it fills a position of need?

Tackles are needed but severely overrated. Above average QB play drastically improves your OL. Barry Richardson, arguably the worst pass blocking tackle in the NFL the last 3 years didn't give up a sack with an average QB in Orton and you really want to waste the opportunity to get the best QB available in favor of a ****ing LT?

You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

Sorter 01-28-2013 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359166)
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

JFC.

LMAO

Sorter 01-28-2013 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359166)
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

http://i.imgur.com/CE5uC.jpg

Pasta Little Brioni 01-28-2013 05:31 PM

Someone is attempting to troll the **** out of us.....that or this is Blackbob's Uncle.

htismaqe 01-28-2013 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359130)
I forgot to mention that Albert has peaked as a player, and Joeckel has a ceiling that is a lot higher. It's a gamble, but could be a significant upgrade.

Yeah, let's gamble the #1 overall pick on a marginal AT BEST improvement.

htismaqe 01-28-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359166)
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

And they won all those playoff games too!

htismaqe 01-28-2013 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359150)
We could pick someone at #1 who is a worthy #1 overall talent. Or we could pick someone the caliber of which we could have gotten any other year drafting in the teens.

ROFL

Joeckel isn't Joe Thomas or Jake Long.

He isn't worth the #1 overall pick.

Brock 01-28-2013 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl (Post 9359166)
You're making my point for me.

Trent Green had his Willie Roaf. And the Chiefs had the league's best offense.

We don't have Trent Green. He retired.


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