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DaFace 09-20-2013 01:55 PM

A Broncos blogger's take on the Chiefs
 
http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...as-city-chiefs

Beware the Kansas City Chiefs
Ted Bartlett Sep 20, 2013 3:30 PM

Happy Friday, friends. I still haven’t had the four hours or so necessary to watch the All-22 of the Broncos-Giants game, and then write an article on it. I’m planning to do that tomorrow, so check the site on a Saturday. (I know you all have the capability.) I actually planned to watch the film last night, but I got caught up watching the Chiefs-Eagles game instead.

You’re not going to like this, but I thought it was time that we all came to the realization that the Chiefs are legitimate. Briefly, today, I’ll share some thoughts on this most regrettable of topics.

For Kansas City, it all starts with their ability to play defense, specifically man-to-man coverage on defense. They have two above-average man corners in Brandon Flowers and Sean Smith, and they also have safety Eric Berry, who’s proving to be very capable at covering TEs man-to-man.

When you can play man coverage (like the Broncos can, as well), you get more options tactically than you’d have if your guys could only hold up in zone. If you can play 5-on-5, with one high safety, you’re left with a free guy, to either use as an extra rusher, or as a robber type of player in coverage.

What’s maybe even more impressive about the Chiefs is that they’re getting dominant play off both edges (Justin Houston and Tamba Hali) and on the nose, with the vastly improved Dontari Poe. This Chiefs team can really generate some pressure on the QB, and that dovetails nicely with being able to lock down good receivers outside.

I saw some comments in the Lard today saying that the Chiefs looked like an average team. I don’t agree with that. As I watched them, I thought they looked a good deal like the 2011 49ers, and that team probably should have been in the Super Bowl.

Alex Smith has been doing an excellent job of managing the game, and the Chiefs have zero turnovers through three games. At this point, nobody can say that Smith is a fluke when it comes to protecting the football. In 2011, his interception rate was 1.1%, which led the NFL. In 2012, it was 2.3%, which tied with Matt Ryan for tenth. This year, obviously, it’s zero. He is good at not throwing the ball to the other team.

Smith isn’t really a big play guy, but with the defense Kansas City has, he doesn’t have to be. He can matriculate the ball down the field, and do well enough by getting the ball to the open guy short. He’s also added 115 rushing yards in three games, which is a good amount for a QB.

There’s a way to win in the NFL, by playing good defense (particularly against the pass), and by winning the turnover battle. That’s what the 49ers did the last couple years, and that’s what this year’s Chiefs team is doing.

I said in an email to the other IAOFM guys yesterday that the Chiefs were probably destined to regress to the mean on turnovers, but the more I think about it, the less I think they will. Smith is huge in that regard, as mentioned, but it’s notable that the team has only even fumbled the ball once in three games. (That was credited to Smith.)

Recovering fumbles is random, and highly dependent on luck, but not fumbling the ball isn’t random. It’s a skill, and a discipline, and a coaching priority. So far, it looks like this is another skill that the Chiefs have going for them.


I know what some of you are thinking - they haven't played anybody yet! How do you know? Is it fully clear yet who is a good team and who's a bad team? I'll grant you that Jacksonville is in rough shape this year. Dallas, though, has the talent to compete with anybody in the NFL. The fact that KC's corners mostly won against Dallas's WRs is compelling evidence of the quality of the Chiefs defense. As for Philadelphia, they have pretty good offensive talent too, and their scheme makes that talent a step better. (Admittedly, their defense isn't good.)

I don’t necessarily think that the Chiefs are ready to win a Super Bowl this year, but I do think they’ll give anybody they play a hard time on any given Sunday. To beat their defense, you have to run the ball well, and beat up on their nickel CB with good play from the slot. Philly got them for 260 yards rushing, and 9.3 yards per carry, and it's clear that the Chiefs can still be run on.

To beat their offense, it’s helpful to bottle up the running game, and to keep Smith in long yardage situations. If you let him get to 3rd-and-4 very often, he’s going to beat you. Over the long run of a game, Smith makes up for not being great at drilling the 20-yard deep out by almost always finding the right receiver on 3rd-and-4, and almost always putting the short throw right where it needs to be.

I would say that the Chiefs are probably the second-most impressive team I’ve seen in the AFC so far this season. It’s a credit to Andy Reid, and the smart moves they made, like keeping LT Branden Albert, signing Sean Smith and DE Mike DeVito, trading for Alex Smith, and picking up Donnie Avery (who has skills) off the scrap heap. I think they may have erred in taking RT Eric Fisher first overall (I thought the best players in the class were DT Star Lotulelei and OLB Jarvis Jones), but Fisher is still likely going to be a good player.

It’s early, but we should watch out for the Chiefs. If they can beat Houston at home in Week 7, there’s a pretty good chance we could see 8-0 Kansas City visiting Denver on November 17th (coming off a bye) to play a 9-0 Broncos team. How exciting would that be?

The Franchise 09-20-2013 01:58 PM

Playing Vick always skews the rushing yards allowed stat.

ptlyon 09-20-2013 02:00 PM

FFS...

AustinChief 09-20-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10002450)
As I watched them, I thought they looked a good deal like the 2011 49ers

A buddy (who is not at all a Chiefs fan) texted me this exact same thing during the game.

The one part of this blog I disagree on is the "Chiefs can be run on" bit. Sure VICK can run on us, but that's really it. I think we'll continue to dominate on rush D when playing teams that don't have a running QB.

Direckshun 09-20-2013 02:04 PM

McCoy killed us, man, with his 6- and 7-yard carries.

He's just an outstanding runner, though. Denver doesn't have that. The closest AFC power that does is Houston, and Arian Foster's on his last legs it seems.

The Franchise 09-20-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10002471)
McCoy killed us, man, with his 6- and 7-yard carries.

He's just an outstanding runner, though. Denver doesn't have that. The closest AFC power that does is Houston, and Arian Foster's on his last legs it seems.

McCoy feeds off of Vick though. I'm not saying he's talented but when a defense always has to be wary of the QB taking off.....they spend less time keying on the RB.

MJD = Jack shit
Murray = Jack shit

listopencil 09-20-2013 02:26 PM

IAOFM is a remarkably high quality blog as these things go. They don't do homer bullshit and they will provide some nice Football 101 type articles. I've got them on my FB feed.

ThaVirus 09-20-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 10002529)
IAOFM is a remarkably high quality blog as these things go. They don't do homer bullshit and they will provide some nice Football 101 type articles. I've got them on my FB feed.

Yeah, he has a legitimate understanding of our strengths and weaknesses- particularly on defense.

I was impressed after reading.

keg in kc 09-20-2013 02:31 PM

They seemed to sell out on hitting Vick and disrupting his rhythm in the passing game. They can do the same thing with Peyton, and he's not any threat to break out on long runs. The risk there is the receiver core, but as fast as Hali, Houston and Poe (and DJ and Berry and the DBs) can get into the backfield, that could be a challenge, too.

What can't happen is Manning standing like a statue behind a wall of blockers scanning the field for 5 seconds without so much as a blade of grass staining his jersey.

The flip side is that their defense is also very good, and so far this season our offense doesn't look very reliable. Our defense stopping Denver likely still results in them scoring 24+ points. Their defense stopping us probably means 10 at this point.

Buns 09-20-2013 02:33 PM

I've never wanted the Raiders to win so much in my life.

DaFace 09-20-2013 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10002542)
They seemed to sell out on hitting Vick and disrupting his rhythm in the passing game. They can do the same thing with Peyton, and he's not any threat to break out on long runs. The risk there is the receiver core, but as fast as Hali, Houston and Poe (and DJ and Berry and the DBs) can get into the backfield, that could be a challenge, too.

What can't happen is Manning standing like a statue behind a wall of blockers scanning the field for 5 seconds without so much as a blade of grass staining his jersey.

The flip side is that their defense is also very good, and so far this season our offense doesn't look very reliable. Our defense stopping Denver likely still results in them scoring 24+ points. Their defense stopping us probably means 10 at this point.

Yep. As the article kind of alludes to, we're in good shape to beat up on average teams and win a lot of games. However, at some point, you do have to put up some points.

I hate to say it, but we're kind of seeing a form of Martyball. If it's a stepping stone to respectability and being competitive, I'm all for it. I do hope that a boring, ball control offense isn't our MO long-term though.

keg in kc 09-20-2013 02:36 PM

I don't think it's intentional Martyball. I think it just looks like Martyball because of a failure to execute.

Saul Good 09-20-2013 02:41 PM

Great write-up until the end. Zero chance of us going 8-0.

TEX 09-20-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10002557)
I don't think it's intentional Martyball. I think it just looks like Martyball because of a failure to execute.

Exactly this. Made worse by the injuried TE's.

Mav 09-20-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 10002464)
A buddy (who is not at all a Chiefs fan) texted me this exact same thing during the game.

The one part of this blog I disagree on is the "Chiefs can be run on" bit. Sure VICK can run on us, but that's really it. I think we'll continue to dominate on rush D when playing teams that don't have a running QB.

Geeeeee.


Ill get crushed for beating my chest here, and im not really, but that's the exact thing that I said that bringing in Sutton, and Alex Smith was going to do for the chiefs. They were shaping up to be exactly like them.

And they are. id even wager at this point of the season, this defense looks a HELL of a lot better than sf's at that same point.

Mav 09-20-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10002549)
Yep. As the article kind of alludes to, we're in good shape to beat up on average teams and win a lot of games. However, at some point, you do have to put up some points.

I hate to say it, but we're kind of seeing a form of Martyball. If it's a stepping stone to respectability and being competitive, I'm all for it. I do hope that a boring, ball control offense isn't our MO long-term though.

The offense is going to come around as the playcalling improves, the oline improves and the Chiefs get some sort of resolution at tight end.

Ceej 09-20-2013 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10002598)
Geeeeee.


Ill get crushed for beating my chest here, and im not really, but that's the exact thing that I said that bringing in Sutton, and Alex Smith was going to do for the chiefs. They were shaping up to be exactly like them.

And they are. id even wager at this point of the season, this defense looks a HELL of a lot better than sf's at that same point.

Thanks Mecca.

Mav 09-20-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10002607)
Thanks Mecca.

Awww, now im a know it all because I explained how things were shaping up to work out by the moves that were made, and people trashed thrashed and degraded me?

Now, im not allowed to point out that I was actually NOT trolling, and was trying to be informative?

Cool.

I didn't know that with as much shit as I took for trying to be positive about the Chiefs, that when it all blew back and hit those same dudes in the faces, that I wasn't allowed to say shit about it.

My bad......:rolleyes:

ct 09-20-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10002579)
Exactly this. Made worse by the injuried TE's.

truth right here

alex smith desperately needs the TE to not look very much like matt cassel. Why we did not use the fb shermon earlier in the game kept pissing me off. that seems like a natural adjustment from our use of TEs to use fb/hb patterns.

oh, and dexter needs to sit firmly on the bench. he is doing nothing for this offense!!! not doing anything for STs either.

Easy 6 09-20-2013 03:00 PM

That was a well reasoned piece, if things keep up like this our rivalry will have teeth again.

Ceej 09-20-2013 03:00 PM

"I'm not trying to pound my chest, but let me pound my chest."

GTFO.

notorious 09-20-2013 03:01 PM

Great news.


The AFC West is getting back to where they belong.

Mav 09-20-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10002618)
"I'm not trying to pound my chest, but let me pound my chest."

GTFO.

lots of dudes were beating their chest about how WRONG I was going to be.

Did you tell them to GTFO as well?

Yeahhhhh........No you didn't. That's why I don't really pay you any attention. no one was there with my back telling them to stop beating their chests......

Mav 09-20-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10002620)
Great news.


The AFC West is getting back to where they belong.

The Broncos Chiefs games this year, are going to be Classics.....

DaFace 09-20-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10002636)
The Broncos Chiefs games this year, are going to be Classics.....

I'm still pretty doubtful we'll be able to hang with them, but it's definitely going to be closer than I would have predicted before the season started.

Stewie 09-20-2013 03:10 PM

Heh. I like the homage to Hank Stram. Good write-up from a donk.

DaFace 09-20-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 10002641)
Heh. I like the homage to Hank Stram. Good write-up from a donk.

I noticed that as well. My coworker (Bronco fan) who sent this to me didn't even realize there was any significance to the phrase.

DJ's left nut 09-20-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10002542)
They seemed to sell out on hitting Vick and disrupting his rhythm in the passing game. They can do the same thing with Peyton, and he's not any threat to break out on long runs. The risk there is the receiver core, but as fast as Hali, Houston and Poe (and DJ and Berry and the DBs) can get into the backfield, that could be a challenge, too.

What can't happen is Manning standing like a statue behind a wall of blockers scanning the field for 5 seconds without so much as a blade of grass staining his jersey.

The flip side is that their defense is also very good, and so far this season our offense doesn't look very reliable. Our defense stopping Denver likely still results in them scoring 24+ points. Their defense stopping us probably means 10 at this point.

Where the Broncos blow the Eagles off the map is in the WR corps.

It's barely even the same sport if you're trying to compare the two. Thomas is a much much tougher matchup for Flowers (much like Bryant in terms of size/speed); Decker is a bigger, stronger, better route running version of Cooper and Welker is a quicker version of Avant (though Avant has better hands).

We won't be able to go with the single-high safety look against those guys; way too much talent.

Trying to extrapolate yesterdays defense to the Broncos is an exercise in futility - the Broncos are a much much different creature.

That said - watch the D vs. the Giants closely. Nicks, Cruz, Randle, Myers is equal to or better than Thomas, Decker, Welker, Thomas. How the Chiefs are able to match up with the Giants pass-catchers will tell us a lot about how they'll do against the Broncos.

Truth be told, both matchups scare the hell out of me.

Ceej 09-20-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10002634)
lots of dudes were beating their chest about how WRONG I was going to be.

Did you tell them to GTFO as well?

Yeahhhhh........No you didn't. That's why I don't really pay you any attention. no one was there with my back telling them to stop beating their chests......

All of this bullshit is irrelevant to me.

You preface posts by saying you're not beating your chest, and do it in the next sentence.

I don't know you - nor would I like to. But, in general I dislike people who try to build themselves up on an internet message board. Like, you're trying to impress a bunch of ****ing strangers.

"Guys, see? See!! I was right."

Mav 09-20-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10002639)
I'm still pretty doubtful we'll be able to hang with them, but it's definitely going to be closer than I would have predicted before the season started.

I think the game plan, will be very similar to how they approached the Eagles. You cant try to shoot it out with them. They are too strong with the pass game. But you can grind them. Will be a great chess match.

Mav 09-20-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10002645)
All of this bullshit is irrelevant to me.

You preface posts by saying you're not beating your chest, and do it in the next sentence.

I don't know you - nor would I like to. But, in general I dislike people who build themselves up on an internet message board. Like, you're trying to impress a bunch of ****ing strangers.

Cute though that you take time out of your day to make sure I know how you feel and to spread the good justice.

keep it up super hero.

Ceej 09-20-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10002651)
Cute though that you take time out of your day to make sure I know how you feel and to spread the good justice.

keep it up super hero.

Good luck with your unemployment. ****ing Browns fan on a Chiefs board.

keg in kc 09-20-2013 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10002644)
Where the Broncos blow the Eagles off the map is in the WR corps.

That would be why I said " The risk there is the receiver core".

jspchief 09-20-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10002482)
McCoy feeds off of Vick though. I'm not saying he's talented but when a defense always has to be wary of the QB taking off.....they spend less time keying on the RB.

MJD = Jack shit
Murray = Jack shit

Agree

Mav 09-20-2013 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10002654)
Good luck with your unemployment. ****ing Browns fan on a Chiefs board.

LOL. Whatever you say BB SUPER HERO.

LOL. Don't forget, I am an actual Alex Smith fan......

but you stay bitter, and angry. The bad guy got away today tho.

Maybe next time!!!!

Mav 09-20-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10002656)
That would be why I said " The risk there is the receiver core".

Why is Hemmingway, not the slot guy, and McMidget is?

Ceej 09-20-2013 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10002664)
LOL. Whatever you say BB SUPER HERO.

LOL. Don't forget, I am an actual Alex Smith fan......

but you stay bitter, and angry. The bad guy got away today tho.

Maybe next time!!!!

And still not one **** was given.

DJ's left nut 09-20-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10002549)
Yep. As the article kind of alludes to, we're in good shape to beat up on average teams and win a lot of games. However, at some point, you do have to put up some points.

I hate to say it, but we're kind of seeing a form of Martyball. If it's a stepping stone to respectability and being competitive, I'm all for it. I do hope that a boring, ball control offense isn't our MO long-term though.

Exactly - it's "Bizarro-Martyball".

Three yards and a cloud of....uh...air?

Mav 09-20-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ceej (Post 10002669)
And still not one **** was given.

Fair enough. As you see by the positive rep I gave you, I harbor no ill will. I do apologize though that my attempt at bad humor, as in the beating my chest upset you. it wasn't intentional, and not who I wanted it to strike a cord with. I will watch with the chest pounding from now on though.

You have a great day boss.

Mav 09-20-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 10002672)
Exactly - it's "Bizarro-Martyball".

Three yards and a cloud of....uh...air?

its not exactly what people had in mind when they heard, ALEX plus andy = 35 times a game is it?

PA Chiefs 09-20-2013 03:27 PM

If the o-line can pass protect and open a hole or two for JC we can hang with anyone in the NFL period. The defense is on a historic pace for sacks and turnovers. That just felt great typing I really love the fact we are a solid coached hard nosed team that seems to find a way to win instead of blowing it.

Beef Supreme 09-20-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 10002464)
A buddy (who is not at all a Chiefs fan) texted me this exact same thing during the game.

The one part of this blog I disagree on is the "Chiefs can be run on" bit. Sure VICK can run on us, but that's really it. I think we'll continue to dominate on rush D when playing teams that don't have a running QB.

I agree, but I am content to let the Broncos think they can run on us.

Tombstone RJ 09-20-2013 03:28 PM

I hate to be the bearer of bad news (seems like this is what I do on this board all the time now) but IAOFM is a self indulging dickfest blog site. This guy has been wrong about a lot of things. He loved McDaniels.

just say'n....

Anyhoo, he neglects to mention just how poorly the kc opponents have played. KC has benefitted from what like 10-11 turnovers in the last 3 games?

loochy 09-20-2013 03:29 PM

HAY GUYS I WAS RIGHT ABOUT PAYTON MANIG
HE THREW A TOUCHDOWN THIS YEAR
BUT I WONT BRAGABOUT IT
HAY I SUBSCRIBE TO A NAUGHTY SITE
ALSO I WAS IN MILITARY

loochy 09-20-2013 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10002688)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news (seems like this is what I do on this board all the time now) but IAOFM is a self indulging dickfest blog site. This guy has been wrong about a lot of things. He loved McDaniels.

just say'n....

Anyhoo, he neglects to mention just how poorly the kc opponents have played. KC has benefitted from what like 10-11 turnovers in the last 3 games?

Sigh.

Don't hate because dude respects the chiefs. Cmon man.

Ceej 09-20-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10002691)
HAY GUYS I WAS RIGHT ABOUT PAYTON MANIG
HE THREW A TOUCHDOWN THIS YEAR
BUT I WONT BRAGABOUT IT
HAY I SUBSCRIBE TO A NAUGHTY SITE
ALSO I WAS IN MILITARY

'MURICA!!! God bless.

Mav 09-20-2013 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 10002691)
HAY GUYS I WAS RIGHT ABOUT PAYTON MANIG
HE THREW A TOUCHDOWN THIS YEAR
BUT I WONT BRAGABOUT IT
HAY I SUBSCRIBE TO A NAUGHTY SITE
ALSO I WAS IN MILITARY

Go home loochy, ur drunk......

Mav 09-20-2013 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10002688)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news (seems like this is what I do on this board all the time now) but IAOFM is a self indulging dickfest blog site. This guy has been wrong about a lot of things. He loved McDaniels.

just say'n....

Anyhoo, he neglects to mention just how poorly the kc opponents have played. KC has benefitted from what like 10-11 turnovers in the last 3 games?

Yeah. You do have a point. Its not like the Chiefs defense has had anything to do with that playing badly.......

I mean, everything the Broncos has done this year, like that WIDE OPEN 5 yard td pass to wes welker against the ravens. THAT WAS TOUGH!!!!!!

DaFace 09-20-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10002688)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news (seems like this is what I do on this board all the time now) but IAOFM is a self indulging dickfest blog site. This guy has been wrong about a lot of things. He loved McDaniels.

just say'n....

Anyhoo, he neglects to mention just how poorly the kc opponents have played. KC has benefitted from what like 10-11 turnovers in the last 3 games?

You seem bitter.

Walrus 09-20-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10002688)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news (seems like this is what I do on this board all the time now) but IAOFM is a self indulging dickfest blog site. This guy has been wrong about a lot of things. He loved McDaniels.

just say'n....

Anyhoo, he neglects to mention just how poorly the kc opponents have played. KC has benefitted from what like 10-11 turnovers in the last 3 games?

Was this on your to-do list today? Go on a Chiefs forum and spew the same shit on every chiefs thread?

Mav 09-20-2013 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10002715)
You seem bitter.

Scared actually. His cake walk, is no longer a cake walk. Tough week for the donkeys too. They find out that the Chiefs are legit, and lose Clady for the year. Id be bitter, scared, and frightened......

Tombstone RJ 09-20-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10002696)
Yeah. You do have a point. Its not like the Chiefs defense has had anything to do with that playing badly.......

I mean, everything the Broncos has done this year, like that WIDE OPEN 5 yard td pass to wes welker against the ravens. THAT WAS TOUGH!!!!!!

:clap:

what else you got?

Tombstone RJ 09-20-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 10002716)
Was this on your to-do list today? Go on a Chiefs forum and spew the same shit on every chiefs thread?

hey, it's you guys who are posting Broncos websites over here, amirite?

007 09-20-2013 03:45 PM

Shit, if both teams were actually undefeated when they met, that is destined to be flexed if flexing has started by then.

Quesadilla Joe 09-20-2013 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PA Chiefs (Post 10002683)
If the o-line can pass protect and open a hole or two for JC we can hang with anyone in the NFL period.

Not really. The only way you can hang with a good team is if they give you turnovers. Your offense is so easy to stop... Play the short routes, stop the run and don't let Alex Smith scramble, if a team does that the Chiefs aren't going anywhere offensively.

Titty Meat 09-20-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 10002730)
Shit, if both teams were actually undefeated when they met, that is destined to be flexed if flexing has started by then.

We refer it as Billaying around these parts

Chiefs Pantalones 09-20-2013 04:12 PM

Above average corner Brandon Flowers? Some Bronco fans are such huge homers lol. Flowers is one of the best in the league.

jspchief 09-20-2013 04:13 PM

I can't blame Bronco fans for being skeptical. Hell, I'm still skeptical.

The defense is good, but the offense isn't. I think the Oline can get better, but until the playcalling and QB play start spreading the defense out, KC's offense is going to struggle. When the entire NFL knows they only have to defend the first 15 yards of the field, the supercheckdown assault is going to struggle.

Mama Hip Rockets 09-20-2013 04:36 PM

Here's my Bronco fan coworker's take on the Chiefs:

"They have only played horrible teams."

Mama Hip Rockets 09-20-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 10002774)
Above average corner Brandon Flowers? Some Bronco fans are such huge homers lol. Flowers is one of the best in the league.

He's been pretty terrible this year.

Chiefs Pantalones 09-20-2013 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 10002816)
He's been pretty terrible this year.

He was badass yesterday for all but one play. And he was injured.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-20-2013 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 10002745)
Not really. The only way you can hang with a good team is if they give you turnovers. Your offense is so easy to stop... Play the short routes, stop the run and don't let Alex Smith scramble, if a team does that the Chiefs aren't going anywhere offensively.

You are the dumbest poster on this board by a mile.

DaFace 09-20-2013 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 10002816)
He's been pretty terrible this year.

Yeah, no. When you are on an island, you're gonna let a couple slip by you.

Quesadilla Joe 09-20-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10002844)
You are the dumbest poster on this board by a mile.

Yeah, you're probably right. The Chiefs are most certainly an offensive juggernaut. They can easily keep up with teams who put up 40 points a game.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-20-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 10002869)
Yeah, you're probably right. The Chiefs are most certainly an offensive juggernaut. They can easily keep up with teams who put 40 points a game.

The only thing stopping the Chiefs ground game is Andy Reid. When they've needed yards they've gotten them every single time.

Simply Red 09-20-2013 05:11 PM

when you play well - people will notice and comment.

Quesadilla Joe 09-20-2013 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10002870)
The only thing stopping the Chiefs ground game is Andy Reid. When they've needed yards they've gotten them every single time.

One positive thing I can say about the Chiefs offense is that in the last two weeks they did a great job of putting the game away on their final drive with the running game. I still think your running game is inconsistent, how many 3rd and 1's did you guys fail to convert against the Eagles last night?

Mother****erJones 09-20-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10002688)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news (seems like this is what I do on this board all the time now) but IAOFM is a self indulging dickfest blog site. This guy has been wrong about a lot of things. He loved McDaniels.

just say'n....

Anyhoo, he neglects to mention just how poorly the kc opponents have played. KC has benefitted from what like 10-11 turnovers in the last 3 games?

We've forced majority of the turnovers. Go **** yourself douchebag

Simply Red 09-20-2013 05:28 PM

trouble is in the very recent past - we CLEARLY had personal talent - yet not team play. So we didn't get any r'Spek, and wondered why - amazing team play will get you your due credit. Wouldn't matter if Arrow Head was located in Oak Grove at this point. Flat out pressure D - all of the time, this will get them talking.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-20-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10002895)
trouble is in the very recent past - we CLEARLY had personal talent - yet not team play. So we didn't get any r'Spek, and wondered why - amazing team play will get you your due credit. Wouldn't matter if Arrow Head was located in Oak Grove at this point. Flat out pressure D - all of the time, this will get them talking.

I'll admit I was a bit spooked out of my pre game non clean breaker. I was really shook up about what kind of omen it would bring.

alpha_omega 09-20-2013 05:48 PM

He ain't no homer. Nice piece.

listopencil 09-20-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 10002688)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news (seems like this is what I do on this board all the time now) but IAOFM is a self indulging dickfest blog site. This guy has been wrong about a lot of things. He loved McDaniels.

just say'n....

Anyhoo, he neglects to mention just how poorly the kc opponents have played. KC has benefitted from what like 10-11 turnovers in the last 3 games?

LOL, you're full of shit, but troll on.

Mav 09-20-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 10002869)
Yeah, you're probably right. The Chiefs are most certainly an offensive juggernaut. They can easily keep up with teams who put up 40 points a game.

The Broncos aren't scoring 40 points against the Chiefs........

KEEP ****ING DREAMING......

Basileus777 09-20-2013 09:41 PM

Vick ran us because we were primarily playing man defense. I'm not too worried about most QBs doing that to us.

ROYC75 09-20-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 10002745)
Not really. The only way you can hang with a good team is if they give you turnovers. Your offense is so easy to stop... Play the short routes, stop the run and don't let Alex Smith scramble, if a team does that the Chiefs aren't going anywhere offensively.

This is an easy game to play dipshit.....

Your offense is so easy to stop... Play the WR tight coverage, stop the run and don't let Manning throw the ball,if a team does that the Broncos aren't going anywhere offensively.

Saying it and doing it is two different things.

KcMizzou 09-20-2013 10:06 PM

This defense can and will TAKE turnovers. They don't have to be given.

Earthling 09-20-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning (Post 10002876)
. I still think your running game is inconsistent, how many 3rd and 1's did you guys fail to convert against the Eagles last night?

None that mattered...

vailpass 09-20-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou (Post 10003757)
This defense can and will TAKE turnovers. They don't have to be given.

Yeah your D line /lbs look good.

ROYC75 09-20-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 10003833)
Yeah your D line /lbs look good.

The DL play has been a very pleasant surprise this year so far. D Poe is turning into a beast at NT. That speed on the bull rush is really making strides this year. The good thing, barring injuries, it should get better as they understand the DC's scheme.

vailpass 09-20-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10003859)
The DL play has been a very pleasant surprise this year so far. D Poe is turning into a beast at NT. That speed on the bull rush is really making strides this year. The good thing, barring injuries, it should get better as they understand the DC's scheme.

What a difference coaching/scheme can make...


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