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ThaVirus 09-29-2013 05:46 PM

Who's your first quarter MVP?
 
A bit early to be talking about MVPs but a lot of teams look at their schedules in quarters. Obviously we're perfect, so who gets your vote for MVP of the first 4 games of the season?

*There will be a poll forthcoming if I can figure this shit out.

pr_capone 09-29-2013 05:47 PM

Charles. No question.

Mav 09-29-2013 05:48 PM

The defense. Honest to god. The entire thing. It has allowed the offense to come slowly.

Defense.

Skyy God 09-29-2013 05:48 PM

Colquitt, always and forever.

milkman 09-29-2013 05:48 PM

Dontari Poe.

The attention he commands allows our sackers and playmakers to run around sacking and pillaging opposing offense.

ClevelandBronco 09-29-2013 05:48 PM

Von Miller. The Broncos would be ****ed without him.

Coach 09-29-2013 05:49 PM

Coaching.

Offensive coaching is still a work in progress (which is understandable, new scheme, new QB, some new bodies) but they are getting a little bit better every week, which is all we need to see at this stage.

Defensive coaching. Sutton is legit. A refreshing change.

They made excellent adjustments when it was necessary.

ThaVirus 09-29-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10032650)
The defense. Honest to god. The entire thing. It has allowed the offense to come slowly.

Defense.

MVP.

Most Valuable Player

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10032657)
Von Miller. The Broncos would be ****ed without him.

Chiefs only, broskino. I'll do one for the entire league after 8 games, though.

Rausch 09-29-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10032657)
Von Miller. The Broncos would be ****ed without him.

What will be funny is when you lose more games with him...

ClevelandBronco 09-29-2013 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10032663)
MVP.

Most Valuable Player



Chiefs only, broskino. I'll do one for the entire league after 8 games, though.

The guy that cleaned out Romeo's office then.

the Talking Can 09-29-2013 05:51 PM

Sutton

ClevelandBronco 09-29-2013 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10032664)
What will be funny is when you lose more games with him...

Lose more than none? I guess that's probable.

BlackHelicopters 09-29-2013 05:54 PM

Colquitt. No contest.

Prison Bitch 09-29-2013 05:54 PM

Smith by a mile.

tecumseh 09-29-2013 06:25 PM

Houston in KC!!

BigMeatballDave 09-29-2013 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 10032657)
Von Miller. The Broncos would be ****ed without him.

Who needs defense when you're scoring 40+ per game?

Rausch 09-29-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10032819)
Who needs defense when you're scoring 40+ per game?

Denver.

They puke pts...

Hammock Parties 09-29-2013 06:29 PM

Poe. He creates opportunities for the entire defense. Domino effect. At least three of Houston's sacks are because of Poe.

Alex Smith close second.

lewdog 09-29-2013 06:30 PM

Andy Reid's chef.

/thread

CupidStunt 09-29-2013 06:35 PM

It's all relative.

Smith - he's not great, but the Chiefs would ultimately be no good with Daniel or Geno Smith or whoever else they could've had. In the most literal sense, he's the most valuable player on the team. 1-3 without him, I'd say.

Charles - he's the best player on the offense and the only guy who can consistently be relied upon to get yards. Without him they would very likely be 1-3. I don't know that they'd beat the Giants with Knile Davis replacing what Charles did today. And they damn sure wouldn't have beat the Iggles.

Poe - he's taken a huge step but no, he's not the MVP at all. Simply no argument for him so not worth discussing.

Hali or Houston? - no. They compliment each other and if either hadn't played a snap, they'd be at least 2-2.

Sutton - I can see an argument. I don't really wanna make it. But it could be. The question is how good they would be anyway with Reid, Dorsey, new QB and plenty of FA help.

Reid? Again, you can make an argument, I think.

Albert? I don't think he's quite good enough to say MVP, but from the perspective of who replaces him (hard to say Fisher would suck at LT since it's his natural position, but...)? I dunno, man. It could be real ugly. It certainly was when he went down, albeit an unfair sample size.

Smith's the literal answer, Charles is probably the right answer. The offense is Charles, the defense isn't reliant on one guy.

Ace Gunner 09-29-2013 06:39 PM

there was no score from either team the first qtr, Colquitt layed out the best game I've ever seen him play. He was money.

TimeForWasp 09-29-2013 06:45 PM

It was our special team gunners

cdcox 09-29-2013 06:45 PM

There are 15 guys in the league that could do the same thing that Alex Smith does.

You can't find 15 Dontori Poes or Justin Houstons. Those guys are disruptive talents that could not easily be replaced.

petegz28 09-29-2013 06:46 PM

Clark Hunt!

Urc Burry 09-29-2013 06:48 PM

He hasn't been made quite the impact Houston has. But Berry has quietly been unstoppable so far

Rausch 09-29-2013 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 10032928)
He hasn't been made quite the impact Houston has. But Berry has quietly been unstoppable so far

Houston didn't flash on the fantasy boards today either but that's because he was in coverage a TON.

That happens when you're an overall ****ing face-raping stud...

milkman 09-29-2013 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 10032928)
He hasn't been made quite the impact Houston has. But Berry has quietly been unstoppable so far

Did the Giants have a TE in the game today?

Marcellus 09-29-2013 06:53 PM

Should be Defense unit 50/ Smith 50

TribalElder 09-29-2013 06:54 PM

defense

whoman69 09-29-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10032656)
Dontari Poe.

The attention he commands allows our sackers and playmakers to run around sacking and pillaging opposing offense.

Probably true, but the defensive tackle is never voted MVP. Its either the sack specialist end/LB or the back with the interceptions. People aren't smart enough to judge something they can't put a number to. Looking at him last year, Poe looked like he would be another in a long line of busts we had at tackle. He has a shot at the Pro Bowl this year.

tredadda 09-29-2013 08:14 PM

Houston. He leads the league in sacks, he is a beast against the run and is solid in pass defense. The total package on defense (our strength) this season.

lcarus 09-29-2013 08:16 PM

Total team effort so far all around, but I'd have to give it to our pass rush, and that definitely would include Poe, Houston, and Hali. Take your pick. Are Houston and Tamba just gonna take turns getting sacks every week lol

Deberg_1990 09-29-2013 08:17 PM

Andy Reid

Nzoner 09-29-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 10032916)
Clark Hunt!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10033287)
Andy Reid

:clap:

Psyko Tek 09-29-2013 08:25 PM

had to go with houston
but the defense is the correct answer

Mr. Laz 09-29-2013 08:27 PM

The Best: Justin Houston(the defense)


The MVP: Alex Smith

He's the one keeping a shit offense on the right path.

hometeam 09-29-2013 08:37 PM

Colquitt putting together what could be a career or even an all time punting year.

griZZly64 09-30-2013 07:42 AM

Colquitt.. I already nicknamed him MVP.

King_Chief_Fan 09-30-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10033287)
Andy Reid

that is a good choice......challenging the spot that forced NY to punt and taking the field goal off the board and chewing up more clock was game changing

FlaChief58 09-30-2013 07:54 AM

It's the coaching staff for me. They've taken 2012's shit squad and turned them into a real football team

Dunerdr 09-30-2013 08:18 AM

No dunta robinson?

ThaVirus 09-30-2013 08:41 AM

No McGrath either. The poll starter blows.

Easy 6 09-30-2013 08:45 AM

I clicked Poe, but i'm starting to think its Andy ****ing Reid... he has completely changed our culture in record time, i dont think its overboard to call what he's done so far, amazing.

Direckshun 09-30-2013 08:46 AM

Dontari Poe is the difference maker this year on defense, no question.

He took a decent defense with too much talent and anchored it. Now we're playing at optimum efficiency.

My vote goes to Alex Smith. He has been instrumental in changing the culture here, in the huddle, in his passes to 8 different receivers a game, he's had a short memory when we needed him to, he's made the offensive line look better, he's given us an extra threat on the ground, and he's made smart decisions for four straight games.

Buehler445 09-30-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10032660)
Coaching.

Offensive coaching is still a work in progress (which is understandable, new scheme, new QB, some new bodies) but they are getting a little bit better every week, which is all we need to see at this stage.

Defensive coaching. Sutton is legit. A refreshing change.

They made excellent adjustments when it was necessary.

Probably this.

Guys playing significant snaps that differ from the last regime:

Alex Smith
Avery
Sean Smith

To a far far lesser extent
Demps
Abdulah
DeVito
carousel of broken TEs

That's basically 3 guys different than the last window licker.

Yeah. Coaching.

warrior 09-30-2013 09:15 AM

The Defense as a whole if I had to pick one person-Bob Sutton

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2013 09:29 AM

Andy Reid.

He essentially hired John Dorsey, hired arguably the best coaching staff in the NFL in Sutton, Childress, Toub, Ault, etc., traded for Alex Smith, installed entirely new offensive and defensive special teams and has every single player, draftee, free agent or guys off the street, playing at a high level.

Without Reid, there is no 4-0.

Buehler445 09-30-2013 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10034637)
Andy Reid.

He essentially hired John Dorsey, hired arguably the best coaching staff in the NFL in Sutton, Childress, Toub, Ault, etc., traded for Alex Smith, installed entirely new offensive and defensive special teams and has every single player, draftee, free agent or guys off the street, playing at a high level.

Without Reid, there is no 4-0.

Quite the understatement. :D

Really though, I was skeptical of the Reid hire. I didn't want a retread (but to be fair, I did say we got the best one). Hopefully we can continue and I have to pound crow. There are still some questions, but Reid has done a marvelous job when most thought he was washed up.

It is astounding to me the level of ineptitude that infested this franchise in the Pioli era. Sweeping, overriding, smothering ineptitude that infested every single aspect of the franchise. I thought it couldn't get worse than Herm. Boy was I wrong. Every time I think about any aspect of the franchise, especially with coaching/gameplanning, it boggles my mind how much of a ****ing joke we were. And it went on for 4 years. 7 if you add in the Herm years.

It is truely sickening.

trndobrd 09-30-2013 10:07 AM

Obviously none of this happens without the coaching staff, but I went with Charles as the MVP. His unexpected production in the passing game, toughness in pass protection have made him a key part of the offense. His running in the fourth quarter of the Dallas, Philadelphia and NYG games shut the door on all three games.

Defensive MVP for the first quarter season is Houston, but DJ is still the heart of this defense and is quietly having a tremendous season.

Fritz88 09-30-2013 10:10 AM

I chose Poe because he provided much needed help to this defense. He was the right prescription for Hali and Houston. Had he not been there, this defense would not be producing the results we've seen. Hence, the team could be 2-2 easily.

saphojunkie 09-30-2013 10:11 AM

Well, it's clearly between Poe, Houston, and Smith.

I picked Smith, purely because he is the only one who replaced a guy from last year's team, and it has made a world of difference.

If we had Poe and Houston playing at this level and still had cassel under center, there's no way we are 4-0.

Mr. Laz 09-30-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10034700)
Well, it's clearly between Poe, Houston, and Smith.

I picked Smith, purely because he is the only one who replaced a guy from last year's team, and it has made a world of difference.

If we had Poe and Houston playing at this level and still had cassel under center, there's no way we are 4-0.

Cassel would have been dramatically better under Reid. Haley was stank ass. Pittsburgh's offense has been dropping like a stone since the day Haley touched it, despite having a franchise and super bowl winning Quarterback.

Mav 09-30-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 10034637)
Andy Reid.

He essentially hired John Dorsey, hired arguably the best coaching staff in the NFL in Sutton, Childress, Toub, Ault, etc., traded for Alex Smith, installed entirely new offensive and defensive special teams and has every single player, draftee, free agent or guys off the street, playing at a high level.

Without Reid, there is no 4-0.

Except for Dunta Robinson. That was the worst blown coverage I have ever seen.

:D

Mav 09-30-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 10034743)
Cassel would have been dramatically better under Reid. Haley was stank ass. Pittsburgh's offense has been dropping like a stone since the day Haley touched it, despite having a franchise and super bowl winning Quarterback.


After years of being tortured by turds of Pitts, this feels awesome to see them be 0-4 and two games behind everyone including the Browns.

But, I think people are underestimating the amount of suck that is Matt Cassel.

Mav 09-30-2013 10:37 AM

Oh, and I voted Alex Smith. Had to. No special reason really. Just I think his leadership was far undervalued.

Oh, and if I had to pick a defensive MVP.......Although I still say if you can choose the entire OLINE, I should be able to take the defense, it would be Eric Berry.

he is like watching a young polomalu right now.

If you want to know where the ball is on defense, FOLLOW HIM......

He will lead you to it.

Ace Gunner 09-30-2013 10:39 AM

Eric Berry. at a critical time in that game yesterday, he took it over. the dude is just smooth as hell.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2013 05:42 PM

I voted for Alex, but co-vote for Houston. On pace for 4400 Total Yards and 28 TD. Ridiculous long clock killing drives in the 4th Quarter as well. That's good stuff right there.

Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace Gunner (Post 10034771)
Eric Berry. at a critical time in that game yesterday, he took it over. the dude is just smooth as hell.

Can I vote for him too???...and Poe!!!! Wait...wait Charles :D

MahiMike 09-30-2013 06:22 PM

Austin. I mean Houston. Get those towns mixed up.

Rain Man 09-30-2013 06:30 PM

It's a great sign the Hali and DJ only have one vote between them when they're both really, really good. We have a ton of talent and production on this defense.

Fritz88 10-02-2013 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10034699)
I chose Poe because he provided much needed help to this defense. He was the right prescription for Hali and Houston. Had he not been there, this defense would not be producing the results we've seen. Hence, the team could be 2-2 easily.

USA today agrees with you brah

http://q.usatoday.com/2013/10/01/dre...paign=Qsidebar

beach tribe 10-02-2013 11:34 PM

I would vote Sutton if it were a choice.

As I think SNR said, this guy may have been the best hire in the entire NFL.

beach tribe 10-02-2013 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 10042401)

Very solid argument.


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