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DaneMcCloud 05-13-2017 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12871300)
For me, I'm ready for Mahomes to play when he and Reid agree he's ready.

The problem is, until then, I am NOT ready for YET ANOTHER YEAR of [being out of the KC area] the only Chiefs fans I interact with constantly grousing, griping, bitching, whining and praying for tragedy, anything and everything to move Mahomes into the starting role on THEIR timetable.
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pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2017 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12871300)
For me, I'm ready for Mahomes to play when he and Reid agree he's ready.

The problem is, until then, I am NOT ready for YET ANOTHER YEAR of [being out of the KC area] the only Chiefs fans I interact with constantly grousing, griping, bitching, whining and praying for tragedy, anything and everything to move Mahomes into the starting role on THEIR timetable.
I'm in full agreement with the first part of that. But I just don't see any reason why he isn't going to be ready in the coaching staff's eyes at the start of 2018.

I think the odds swing far more in the direction of him being ready than not.

Easy 6 05-13-2017 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12871303)
Gruden's never developed a single QB in the NFL.

Regardless, your expectations are too high. Everyone that's seen Mahomes (as well as the other QB's in this class) felt they needed at least a year on the bench, if not more, to be ready to play in the NFL.

Look, I was "banging the table" for Mahomes back in the beginning of January, so it's not as if I didn't or don't want him. The Chiefs would be absolutely dead to me this year if they hadn't moved up and drafted a QB (with Mahomes being my #1 guy). But for ****'s sake, give the kid a chance to mature and grow into the position.

There is absolutely no reason to go full on "Cortez" and burn the QB position to the ground in 2018.
Hey man, its very cool that you were in on Mahomes from the jump... you were way ahead of me for sure, I didnt know jack about him until after the draft

But if you felt that strongly about him, why is it so hard to think that 2 full camps etc etc etc wont be enough to get him to a workable proficiency?

Favre was every bit as raw as this guy, but he went to Green Bay and successfully started in much less time than Mahomes will have should he start in 2018

Bookmark these posts to burn me with next year, I could certainly be wrong... but there is some real history to look back at, and knowledgeable NFL people who have been there and done that echoing my feelings

We'll see how it goes down, but 'The Kid' just seems to have the It factor that makes me ready for change... and horny LMAO

His arm talent is hardcore football porn

SAUTO 05-13-2017 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871139)
Except he swept the division in the process putting the team on his back in thrilling fashion to beat the Chargers and Broncos. **** you and your Pittsburgh game horse shit. our starting field position was garbage because we didn't force punts. Our receivers dropped 5 important passes. West had a boneheaded fumble.

The ignorance is strong with you.
What was our average starting field position in the playoff game against pitt? What is the league average? I'm asking because I'm genuinely curious. And you obviously know right off the top of your head because you keep saying this.

SAUTO 05-13-2017 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871141)
QBR was 11th in the league. We were the #1 running team in 2015 but dropped to 20th last seasonPretty sure the trade up for Kareem Hunt speaks to what Dorsey perceived as the problem.


So quit acting like you know better than Dorsey.
Dorsey was also the guy who traded up in the first and gave up MUCH more for a qb. What does that speak to what dorsey perceived as the problem? Are you trolling?:shake:

SAUTO 05-13-2017 06:58 PM
I just realized what thread this is...


What the ****. Why is this even happening here?

DaneMcCloud 05-13-2017 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12871358)
Hey man, its very cool that you were in on Mahomes from the jump... you were way ahead of me for sure, I didnt know jack about him until after the draft

But if you felt that strongly about him, why is it so hard to think that 2 full camps etc etc etc wont be enough to get him to a workable proficiency?

Favre was every bit as raw as this guy, but he went to Green Bay and successfully started in much less time than Mahomes will have should he start in 2018

Bookmark these posts to burn me with next year, I could certainly be wrong... but there is some real history to look back at, and knowledgeable NFL people who have been there and done that echoing my feelings

We'll see how it goes down, but 'The Kid' just seems to have the It factor that makes me ready for change... and horny LMAO

His arm talent is hardcore football porn
My comments aren't about being "right" or being "wrong".

It's about managing expectations for an extremely talented but extremely raw 21 year QB prospect.

It's a fools errand to unequivocally state that Alex Smith will be cut and Pat Mahomess will start in 2018. The kid hasn't played a down of NFL football, has a steep mental learning curve and needs at least a full year at the training table.

I can't wait until the day that Mahomes is the starter but I think it's highly unlikely that he's ready Week 1 of the 2018 season. That's just a realistic expectation.

RunKC 05-13-2017 07:23 PM
Damn Dane. No offense, but I truly hope you're wrong here and he is ready in 2018.

Waiting 2 more years will feel like 10.

DaneMcCloud 05-13-2017 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12871410)
Damn Dane. No offense, but I truly hope you're wrong here and he is ready in 2018.

Waiting 2 more years will feel like 10.
Even if he's ready (and hope he is, too), I don't think that cutting Smith is the right play.

Tyler Bray, who's never had a regular season snap, in practice or a game, will be a free agent and has shown nothing. Joel Stave, another UDFA, sits behind him currently.

It's really difficult for me to believe that Dorsey and Reid head into 2018 with an entirely new QB depth chart and room, especially considering that WCO QB's (and QB's in general) are difficult to find.

Hog's Gone Fishin 05-13-2017 07:49 PM
I sure would like to see Bray play, just for shits and giggles. You never know.

KChiefs1 05-13-2017 08:29 PM
Kareem Hunt is offended how "his" thread has regressed into this shit.


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TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12871328)
I'm in full agreement with the first part of that. But I just don't see any reason why he isn't going to be ready in the coaching staff's eyes at the start of 2018.

I think the odds swing far more in the direction of him being ready than not.
How about we wait until we get there and pump the brakes on the hype until we know more about this kid after he develops a little? Ok cupcake?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12871432)
Even if he's ready (and hope he is, too), I don't think that cutting Smith is the right play.

Tyler Bray, who's never had a regular season snap, in practice or a game, will be a free agent and has shown nothing. Joel Stave, another UDFA, sits behind him currently.

It's really difficult for me to believe that Dorsey and Reid head into 2018 with an entirely new QB depth chart and room, especially considering that WCO QB's (and QB's in general) are difficult to find.
The Geno/murray/Chase Daniel/bowe apologists would disagree with you. Cause they're always right, ya know.

SAUTO 05-13-2017 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12871490)
How about we wait until we get there and pump the brakes on the hype until we know more about this kid after he develops a little? Ok cupcake?
What about that average starting field position?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 05-13-2017 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12871378)
Dorsey was also the guy who traded up in the first and gave up MUCH more for a qb. What does that speak to what dorsey perceived as the problem? Are you trolling?:shake:
Mahomes isn't starting this year you dickwad. He found a project that can develop UNDER Alex Smith. Not be the immediate or soon to be replacement. This is a 1.5-2 year project.


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