Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5540752)

New England could have gotten a lot more out of the trade if another team was involved. Denver did not want Cassel unless they were getting at least one first round draft pick to go along with it.

Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement (Post 5540745)

I would not, and I usually agree with you, or defer to your opinion sometimes when I'm not familiar with a player.

However, as much talent and natural ability the guy has shown. He just doesn't seem to get over the turnovers, brainfart mistakes, and some of his comments just make me think this guy is never going to get it. He seems like someone that gets flustered if you get in his face, and is just another guy with all the tools but his ego or whatever it is keeps him from taking the next step... ?

Who knows. maybe if he had a guy like Haley who would ride his ass, he'd wise up.

If we were talking simply off talent, I get the point, but his attitude has been for shit, and he's come off as whiny, or a jackass, or way too full of himself for having done nothing at this point.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5540780)

Just so I get this straight:

We're arrogant for questioning the decision making of a personnel move of an NFL GM
Yet all NFL GMs operate by said draft chart, including Pioli, who has used it multiple times in draft day trades.
You say that the draft chart is a crock of shit.

Ok.

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5540810)

I say Cassel + our 3rd-7th round picks isn't somehow comparable to the #14 overall.

I'm sure you can use it for guidance and all...but come the **** on. Other than Stafford at #1, the #2-#6 picks in this draft all appear to have similar value.

No one has any idea what we should do with #3 now that we have our QB...so why take Curry and pay him #3 money when you can find a guy that would likely have similar impact to the club at #23 and have to pay him $30M less?

That's why New England was more interested in #34 than #3...who are they going to take at #3 that is going to be worth $30M guaranteed?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5540820)

It's pretty clear that with this team moving to a 3-4 that BJ Raji is the pick at 3 since they've taken a QB.

I"m sorry if you can't keep up.

Originally Posted by cfl (Post 5540783)

Quoted from ESPN:
the proposed trade was a three-way deal that would have sent Cassel to Denver to reunite with former Patriots offensive coordinator and new Denver head coach Josh McDaniels, Cutler to Tampa Bay and compensation from Tampa Bay to New England.

Cutler isnt worth what you think he is, he cant win in the clutch, likes to throw picks in crunch time and cries about everything. Just sayin'

Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5540860)

And Denver turned it down. If they wanted the career backup scrub Cassel he would have been in Denver.

Originally Posted by cutler7624 (Post 5540860)

And Denver turned it down. If they wanted the career backup scrub Cassel he would have been in Denver.

Originally Posted by cfl (Post 5540969)

They didnt turn it down. It was reported that the deal to KC had made this one impossible.
Face it your coach was very interested in trading Cutler for Cassel.

Denver had to float the idea in the first place, teams dont just call other teams and ask if they will trade their QB, unless they got wind it was possible.

Do you think people just call Pittsburgh and ask if they want to trade Rothlisberger?

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5540794)

Reasonable people can disagree. I have no problem with that. He does have moments of dipshittery, but he's also 25 years old. It's not like Peyton Manning wasn't storming around on the sidelines pouting at the same age, or Roethlisberger wasn't road pizza, Favre wasn't picking Vicodin out of his own puke, or Elway wasn't wearing those dumbass aviators.

Hell, just looking at video on NFLN of the quarterback controversies, I was amazed at how much of a dickhead Steve Young came off as, but he was young.

Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 5540995)

Cutler seems more like the second coming of Jake Plummer than John Elway, but maybe that's just me.