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Deberg_1990 05-17-2013 11:14 AM

Whos your favorite Star Trek" Captain?
 
Who's your fave and how do you rank them?

Kirk/Shatner

Picard

Sisko

Janeway

Archer

Kirk/Pine

Pike

Bowser 05-17-2013 11:16 AM

NONE OF THEM IT'S ALL BULLSHIT /Clay

crossbow 05-17-2013 11:17 AM

Picard

Discuss Thrower 05-17-2013 11:21 AM

The Sisko

listopencil 05-17-2013 11:22 AM

Spock

Stryker 05-17-2013 11:23 AM

Kirk/Shatner
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alpha_omega 05-17-2013 11:25 AM

Picard and it's not even close.

KC_Lee 05-17-2013 11:37 AM

Sisko once he grew the goatee.

Frazod 05-17-2013 11:42 AM

Kirk/Shatner
Picard
Sisko
Kirk/Pine
Pike
Archer
Janeway

Frazod 05-17-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 9688834)
Sisko once he grew the goatee.

While Shatner's Kirk has been and will always be No. 1, I think Sisko is the most interesting character.

Bump 05-17-2013 11:54 AM

loved Picard. But Shatner is the classic.

But Spock is the most badass mother****er on Star Trek and that's fo sho

Imon Yourside 05-17-2013 11:58 AM

Kirk/Shatner duh.

Imon Yourside 05-17-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9688810)
Spock

Bad news, he only captained when Kirk was in deep shit.

keg in kc 05-17-2013 03:03 PM

Picard and Sisco when they were fighting the Dominion and not doing wacko Bajoran mythology.

Deberg_1990 05-17-2013 03:12 PM

No love for Captain Sulu?

alnorth 05-17-2013 03:37 PM

Picard. Easily. By a country F'ing mile.

Deberg_1990 05-17-2013 03:44 PM

Unreal all you Picard lovers...He was ok...but dude couldnt fight, and wasnt near the pimp or tactician Kirk was.

BigRedChief 05-17-2013 03:51 PM

Shatner has to be first
Picard a close second
Sisko because of Bjorian mystism


Didn't like Archer or Janeway. We never saw Pike in action.

All the temp captains....James T. Kirk the first was cool. Spock was and always will be the baddest captain. No human can touch his badassness.

listopencil 05-17-2013 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9688870)
Bad news, he only captained when Kirk was in deep shit.

When the shit hits the fan...go get Spock.

007 05-17-2013 04:04 PM

Picard with shatner/kirk a distant second.

Deberg_1990 05-17-2013 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9689210)
When the shit hits the fan...go get Spock.

Spock Vs. Data, who wins?

The Iron Chief 05-17-2013 04:26 PM

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I vote T'pol I think she was an honorary Captain for an episode.
Ok fine..
Shatner Because it just has to be that way
Picard Is Deff a close 2nd.

But I do agree with the comment if the Sh1T hit the fan I want Spock coming for me with Data a close second.

Discuss Thrower 05-17-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9689195)
Unreal all you Picard lovers...He was ok...but dude couldnt fight, and wasnt near the pimp or tactician Kirk was.

Sisko wasn't a ladies man (never liked Cassidy that much) but the dude won a ****ing war and was a religious icon to an entire planet.

007 05-17-2013 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9689230)
Spock Vs. Data, who wins?

Spock

KC_Lee 05-17-2013 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9688845)
While Shatner's Kirk has been and will always be No. 1, I think Sisko is the most interesting character.

But only Sisko got Kirk's autograph!!

Now that's just bad ass.

Hammock Parties 05-17-2013 06:34 PM

Over the years I've changed. First it was Kirk, then Picard, now it's probably Sisko because he has the most interesting character arc.

Hammock Parties 05-17-2013 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9688870)
Bad news, he only captained when Kirk was in deep shit.

This is wrong.

Spock was promoted to the rank of Captain by Star Trek V or VI.

Buehler445 05-17-2013 07:38 PM

Shatner/Kirk is the best character. But my vote is Picard because I LOVED that shit when I was a kid. It stuck. But I fully acknowledge that Shatner is where it is at.

JD10367 05-17-2013 08:15 PM

1.) Picard
2.) Kirk/Shatner
3.) Kirk/Pine
4.) Sisko
5.) Janeway
6.) Archer
DNQ.) Pike

notorious 05-17-2013 08:18 PM

1. Picard, Kirk

3. Sisko



The new Kirk won major points for the bar scene in the latest Star Trek.

DaFace 05-17-2013 08:37 PM

Gotta go with Picard.

Frazod 05-17-2013 08:44 PM

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listopencil 05-17-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9689230)
Spock Vs. Data, who wins?

I'm going to say Spock.

CrazyPhuD 05-17-2013 08:59 PM

Pike easy!

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Gadzooks 05-17-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9689131)
No love for Captain Sulu?

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1253802240/h7F47CB48/

007 05-17-2013 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 9689747)

:LOL:

Silock 05-17-2013 10:43 PM

Picard
Sisko

Don't care after that.

Baby Lee 05-17-2013 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9688864)
loved Picard. But Shatner is the classic.

But Spock is the most badass mother****er on Star Trek and that's fo sho

He's seen everything, he's seen it all.

Deberg_1990 05-17-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silock (Post 9690015)
Picard
Sisko

Don't care after that.

What the whaaa?

Fish 05-18-2013 12:06 AM

Picard, and I'll cut the man that says otherwise....

Imon Yourside 05-18-2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9689420)
This is wrong.

Spock was promoted to the rank of Captain by Star Trek V or VI.

Always the brides maid and never the bride.

RealSNR 05-18-2013 12:50 AM

Enterprise never happened. Archer is nonexistent

I really ****ing love Kate Mulgrew, and with some good writing I really think she could have been considered in the Kirk/Picard debate. Sadly, the writers made her the worst developed character of all the captains. She was also wishy-washy, wreckless, unprincipled, and occasionally highly irrational. She's the worst.

Kirk (Pine) has only done two movies. Tough to rank him any higher.

There's a huge gap after that before we get to the top 3. I've seen all the OS episodes and all the movies. I don't have the same nostalgia or fascination with the original that other people do. I also place a far greater value on what a captain actually faces and how they get out of it. Shatner's Kirk came from a different era of television, when it was still fine to represent peaceful and helpful democracy through the barrel of a gun. No, none of the Star Trek captains are exactly peaceniks, but Kirk didn't have any of the restraints that Picard or Sisko had in how they did business. He also never had to deal with the Borg. Based on that, he's 3rd for me.

Sisko/Picard are 1a and 1b, and I waver back and forth between the two constantly. If I had to pick the best one, I'd go with Sisko I think. Picard did some incredible ****ing shit, but quite often he relied on Data to get him out of jams. Sisko relied on his own chocolate thunder to get him out of jams and nothing else. He rarely even used his goddamn shapeshifter. ****, if I were a captain that'd be my #1 tool for the job every time.

Summary:

1a. Sisko
1b. Picard
2. Shatner/Kirk
3. Pine/Kirk
4. Janeway

007 05-18-2013 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9690186)
Enterprise never happened. Archer is nonexistent

I really ****ing love Kate Mulgrew, and with some good writing I really think she could have been considered in the Kirk/Picard debate. Sadly, the writers made her the worst developed character of all the captains. She was also wishy-washy, wreckless, unprincipled, and occasionally highly irrational. She's the worst.

Kirk (Pine) has only done two movies. Tough to rank him any higher.

There's a huge gap after that before we get to the top 3. I've seen all the OS episodes and all the movies. I don't have the same nostalgia or fascination with the original that other people do. I also place a far greater value on what a captain actually faces and how they get out of it. Shatner's Kirk came from a different era of television, when it was still fine to represent peaceful and helpful democracy through the barrel of a gun. No, none of the Star Trek captains are exactly peaceniks, but Kirk didn't have any of the restraints that Picard or Sisko had in how they did business. He also never had to deal with the Borg. Based on that, he's 3rd for me.

Sisko/Picard are 1a and 1b, and I waver back and forth between the two constantly. If I had to pick the best one, I'd go with Sisko I think. Picard did some incredible ****ing shit, but quite often he relied on Data to get him out of jams. Sisko relied on his own chocolate thunder to get him out of jams and nothing else. He rarely even used his goddamn shapeshifter. ****, if I were a captain that'd be my #1 tool for the job every time.

Summary:

1a. Sisko
1b. Picard
2. Shatner/Kirk
3. Pine/Kirk
4. Janeway

Wasn't in the budget or he would have

Hammock Parties 05-18-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Picard did some incredible ****ing shit, but quite often he relied on Data to get him out of jams. Sisko relied on his own chocolate thunder to get him out of jams and nothing else.
This. Thread over.

Bravo, SNR.

Let's not even get into the fact that Picard had the goddamn flagship of the Federation at his disposal, while Sisko was confined to a shitty secondhand space station that broke down constantly.

And when he did get a ship of his own? Faces were raped all over the galaxy.

Psyko Tek 05-18-2013 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9689420)
This is wrong.

Spock was promoted to the rank of Captain by Star Trek V or VI.

the whole ****ing crew in the TOS movies were captains
even scotty and chekov
sulu was badass in undiscovered country
gotta say picard vs shat/kirk are a toss up
the new kirk is too young
never finished voyager or DS9 was working nights
enterprise except the vulcan chick just sucked

Trivers 05-18-2013 06:56 AM

Riker.

Brashness of kirk combined with diplomacy of picard.

Mr. Laz 05-18-2013 09:04 AM

shatner is the classic so he has to be first
Picard was probably the best

Deberg_1990 05-18-2013 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9690186)
Enterprise never happened. Archer is nonexistent

Is it not considered canon? Or are you just saying you hated the show?

milkman 05-18-2013 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9689195)
Unreal all you Picard lovers...He was ok...but dude couldnt fight, and wasnt near the pimp or tactician Kirk was.

Jean-Luc Picard wasn't the typical leading man type that the rest of the Star Treks, and almost every other TV show tries to sel their shows with.

He was, however, the epitome of a leader that earned the respect and admiration of the people in his command.

The character was more solid and fully developed than any of the others.

Bump 05-18-2013 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9689230)
Spock Vs. Data, who wins?

Spock wins vs anybody

patteeu 05-18-2013 10:37 AM

Picard

Fishpicker 05-18-2013 04:17 PM

Shatner/Kirk

OG Kirk fought like a silver age comic book character.
Kirk had an arsenal of fight moves you wont see outside of shootfighting/prowrestling...

double axe handle
doubled backhand
double drop kick AKA twin warp engines
doubled hammer fist
full body sweep
head scissor takedown AKA Inoki's twisting frankensteiner
the human projectile
judo chop
judo hip toss
judo fist
judo palm
judo's Tomoe Nage/rolling thunder
twisting arm drag
the wall of pain AKA the big bonk

Kirk was really good with combos/transitions too. Kirk's wrist catch/pimp slap/front kiss was on par with Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira's triangle/armbar

Braincase 05-18-2013 09:30 PM

Archer.... only KU alum in the bunch.
Brought his dog.
Hottest first officer.

http://blokebuddy.com/wp-content/upl...-pic-5-big.jpg

RealSNR 05-19-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishpicker (Post 9690804)
Shatner/Kirk

OG Kirk fought like a silver age comic book character.
Kirk had an arsenal of fight moves you wont see outside of shootfighting/prowrestling...

double axe handle
doubled backhand
double drop kick AKA twin warp engines
doubled hammer fist
full body sweep
head scissor takedown AKA Inoki's twisting frankensteiner
the human projectile
judo chop
judo hip toss
judo fist
judo palm
judo's Tomoe Nage/rolling thunder
twisting arm drag
the wall of pain AKA the big bonk

Kirk was really good with combos/transitions too. Kirk's wrist catch/pimp slap/front kiss was on par with Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira's triangle/armbar

Does Kirk ever do the forearm sucker punch?

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Deberg_1990 05-19-2013 05:27 PM

Luv me some Kirk double hammer and jump kick.

RealSNR 05-19-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9690481)
Spock wins vs anybody

That's just ridiculous. Data > Spock in every conceivable fashion. You name it.

Passepartout 05-19-2013 07:32 PM

Janeway as she is a woman like me. As also she was fair. Did not like her at first but she had since developed.

Fat Elvis 05-19-2013 07:58 PM

Kirk-Pine/Spock-Quinto

Frazod 05-19-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9693069)
Kirk-Pine/Spock-Quinto

Clay is going to send somebody to your house to kneecap you. LMAO

Lzen 05-19-2013 08:04 PM

Picard but kirk a close second.


And whoever said Picard wasn't a tactician needs to go back and watch TNG. Dude was a bad ass tactician.

Red Brooklyn 05-19-2013 08:31 PM

Picard. Hands down.

Garcia Bronco 05-20-2013 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9688870)
Bad news, he only captained when Kirk was in deep shit.

He was Captain if the Enterprise in the Wrath of Khan.

Bump 05-20-2013 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9692664)
That's just ridiculous. Data > Spock in every conceivable fashion. You name it.

ya but Spock doesn't have an off switch

Rausch 05-21-2013 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9696542)
ya but Spock doesn't have an off switch

Neither did Troi.

If she did she'd have been pregnant for the entire run...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._parallels.jpg

http://scifispirit.files.wordpress.c...nna-troi-1.jpg

MTG#10 05-21-2013 10:11 AM

Picard, but only because TNG was the only Star Trek I ever liked.

Donger 05-21-2013 10:24 AM

Picard.

Donger 05-21-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9696691)
Neither did Troi.

If she did she'd have been pregnant for the entire run...

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__..._parallels.jpg

http://scifispirit.files.wordpress.c...nna-troi-1.jpg

I'll see those and raise you this:

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blaise 05-21-2013 10:44 AM

I couldn't vote for Picard because he always let those annoying Crushers on the Bridge.

RealSNR 05-21-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 9697205)
I couldn't vote for Picard because he always let those annoying Crushers on the Bridge.

Beverly was a gem of a woman and I will come to your house and kick you in the balls if you say anything bad about her.

Donger 05-21-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9697305)
Beverly was a gem of a woman and I will come to your house and kick you in the balls if you say anything bad about her.

She couldn't dance worth shit.

listopencil 05-21-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9692664)
That's just ridiculous. Data > Spock in every conceivable fashion. You name it.

Oh come on. Data couldn't even use contractions. They would never engage in physical combat, so that leaves you with your choice of a battle of wits or comparing their abilities at handling various tasks. Spock would logic bomb Data into shutting down in a battle of wits. In every conceivable way Spock is a better Star Fleet officer than Data. It's not even close. Game. Set. Match. Checkmate even, if you are so inclined.

Hammock Parties 05-21-2013 08:31 PM

Data took over the Enterprise all by himself several times.

Spock is ****ed.

The logical thing for him to do would be to flee.

Donger 05-21-2013 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9698668)
Oh come on. Data couldn't even use contractions. They would never engage in physical combat, so that leaves you with your choice of a battle of wits or comparing their abilities at handling various tasks. Spock would logic bomb Data into shutting down in a battle of wits. In every conceivable way Spock is a better Star Fleet officer than Data. It's not even close. Game. Set. Match. Checkmate even, if you are so inclined.

Oh yeah? What about sheer, computational speed? Like when Data beat that fat, little Zackdorn (sp?) **** at Strategama? Or when Data discovered the Romulans when Tasha's whore, half-breed daughter was trying to help them?

Donger 05-21-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9698692)
Data took over the Enterprise all by himself several times.

Spock is ****ed.

The logical thing for him to do would be to flee.

Absolutely agree. He'd pee his pants faced with Data's prowess. Didn't they meet and collaborate in one of the TNG episodes? The one where Spock foolishly trusts the Romulans about wanting re-unification?

Hammock Parties 05-21-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9698709)
Oh yeah? What about sheer, computational speed? Like when Data beat that fat, little Zackdorn (sp?) **** at Strategama? Or when Data discovered the Romulan's when Tasha's whore half-breed daughter was trying to help them?

I love it when you talk Trekkie.

Donger 05-21-2013 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9698725)
I love it when you talk Trekkie.

My serenade...

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listopencil 05-21-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Branden Albert's Huge Balls (Post 9698692)
Data took over the Enterprise all by himself several times.

Spock is ****ed.

The logical thing for him to do would be to flee.

And yet he had to beg Picard to be put into command of a vessel in an emergency situation, where his interpersonal skills were shown to be lacking.

listopencil 05-21-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9698709)
Oh yeah? What about sheer, computational speed? Like when Data beat that fat, little Zackdorn (sp?) **** at Strategama? Or when Data discovered the Romulans when Tasha's whore, half-breed daughter was trying to help them?

Being a Captain isn't about raw computational speed, neither is actual intelligence. Spock's intuition, his humanity even, trumps Data every time. Data is a great supporting character. Spock on the other hand is one of the foundations of the franchise for very good reasons.

007 05-22-2013 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9698802)
Being a Captain isn't about raw computational speed, neither is actual intelligence. Spock's intuition, his humanity even, trumps Data every time. Data is a great supporting character. Spock on the other hand is one of the foundations of the franchise for very good reasons.

Logically

Donger 05-22-2013 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 9698802)
Being a Captain isn't about raw computational speed, neither is actual intelligence. Spock's intuition, his humanity even, trumps Data every time. Data is a great supporting character. Spock on the other hand is one of the foundations of the franchise for very good reasons.

That's where you are wrong again. Spock actively fights his humanity, while Data pines for "his" even though he knows he'll never attain it. The glory is the struggle, and the reason why Data is more "human" than Spock ever will be.


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