****Official 2014 Fire Gary Pinkel Thread****
 

None of this matters. Fire Pinkel.

Diet Oklahoma LMAO LMAO

Page 1 Mizzou!

Great year for sure.

I'll take Ealy and josey in red and gold next year

The James Franklin era ends much like the Challenger: simultaneously explosive and disastrous.

That probably sounded better in your head...just sayin.

Pete Scantlebury
@PeteScantlebury
If Strong is going to Texas, #Mizzou's chances to land Cincinnati DT Daniel Cage go up exponentially.

Probably. But it annoyed you, so I won't edit it.

Franklin is very lucky that we pulled this one out because this game would have been his legacy had we lost.

As it is its still a sizable black mark but a lot of fans will ultimately overlook his poor performance based on the result of the game.

Wow....Michael Sam came up big just when we needed him to.

Ealy and Josey should get game balls. Franklin and Pinkel should thank their lucky stars for Ealy and Josey's efforts.

Gimme Boothe and Cage.

This is pretty much the inverse of the game Gabbert played against Iowa, right down to the results.

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Franklin played well in stretches, but his legacy will be one of a decent player but not a great one. We're definitely going to need a higher standard of quarterbacking than this in the future.

Sounds like Golden is coming back!

That's good, I think. Franklin was a very, very important part of this season. He's had his ups and downs, and Yost did him no favors as far as development, but he's tough. I think he represented the school well on the whole. It's a good thing that he won't be remembered as the guy who single-handidly cost Mizzou a Cotton Bowl because he's meant more to Mizzou over the course of his career than a victory in an exhibition game does.

Nothing can annoy me right now...just giving you shit.

That's hilarious. I was thinking the exact same thing.

Nailed it

I will remember this as Franklin's swan song and how poorly he played. It's like he reverted to 2012 Franklin and really almost lost the game for us. That is what I will remember most about him.

It's reality.....what people remember you is the last impression you made on them.

Moving down the field for a come-from-behind touchdown, including a 3rd down play where he hung in and made an amazing throw. The was the last impression, no?

What is it about the last three QBs we've had. They are, quite possibly, the three best we've ever had. Yet, somehow, I'm always ready for them to leave.

That was not an amazing throw. It was three yards under thrown. A good throw would have been a TD.

I'm with you on the last two, but Chase? I can't imagine wishing for the end of his career at Mizzou.

Look....I like Franklin, but let's be real. Franklin played horribly all night. This game shouldn't have been this close and the mental errors he made are more ones that you see First Year QB's make.

You have to admit that the defense and Henry Josey bailed out Franklin tonight. I will give Franklin his due on the pass to DGB but you have to admit he played horribly and single-handedly almost cost us a great season.

He was awful in this game, but somehow Franklin made one throw when we really needed it, down the sideline to DGB. It was his one redeeming moment of the day.

I almost edited my post. I wasn't happy about him leaving, but I had found peace with it...especially with Gabbert waiting in the wings. His play and demeanor in the second half of the season (I'm looking at you, Warren Buffett) was going downhill fast.

I'm with you on Daniel.....I was ready to see Gabbert and now Franklin leave, but Daniel was fun to watch just because he ran the offense so efficiently.

I am excited to see the run of Maty Mauk.....with DGB and the RB trio we could still be explosive. Our O-Line needs to make sure the new guys to take over for the graduating seniors slide right into their slots.

You know, you may be right.
It's hard to remember (hindsight and all) how excited I was to see what Gabbert could do.

To some extent I agree with Saul Good....had he led DGB that was a TD.

No. No no no no no no. I could not disagree with this more. This was a bowl game. A glorified scrimmage. It doesn't mean anything. This season was great, regardless of whether or not Mizzou won this exhibition contest.

If FSU wins I don't see why Mizzou won't finish #3. #7 OSU, #6 Baylor, #5 Stanford, and #3 Alabama all lost. I can't see how #2 Auburn drops just one spot if they lose.

That's ok....I don't mind someone disagreeing with me, it's my POV. Bowl games to me are more than scrimmages and it isn't an exhibition.

When you win Bowl Games it does have an effect on recruiting....and losing after starting so promising does have a mental effect. Ask any OSU fan (be it Ohio State or Okie State) or Bama how they feel about losing their last 2 games after a promising season and being in place for a BCS or NCG shot.

I think at best we find our way to #4.....but realistically I see us landing at #5, which is still pretty damn good for being picked to finish 6th in our division.

I agree - it's good to see Franklin go out a winner so my lasting memory of him won't be one of blind rage.

He was a great Tiger. He deserves to be remembered for a hell of a comeback season and not just for yacking up a bowl game.

You are kinder than I am....maybe I will mellow out tomorrow morning.

I am just so damn happy for MU and the guys like Josey, Washington, Gaines, Lucas, Franklin and all the other Seniors.

I feel the same way, well Gabbert and Franklin not so much Daniel.

I ABSOLUTELY means a lot. You can argue that it shouldn't, but you can't argue that it doesn't. The exposure...the momentum...the symbolism...it ****ing matters.

The extra month of practice time.

The entire narrative of this season was decided tonight.

Of course we can agree to disagree here on the importance of bowl games.

But since you said to ask any Bama fan, I'll ask myself:

"Self, how do you feel about Alabama losing their last two games after a promising season where you were ranked #1 the whole way?"

"Well, self, losing the last regular season game to Auburn hurts a lot. It cost us a spot in the SEC championship game, and effectively ensured that we would not play for the BCS national championship. Losing the Sugar Bowl to Oklahoma doesn't hurt at all, comparatively. It doesn't feel good to have been outcoached by Bob Stoops. But it also does nothing to take away from our gargantuan success in recent years, or our best-in-the-nation recruiting class for next year."

Winning didn't impact, though.

There is no momentum carried over into next season because of bowl performance, either way. None. That's one of the falsest ideas in all of sports.

Yeah. Bama was a really bad example, though...probably the worst possible example.

I don't mean on the field. I'm talking more about recruiting.

Now imagine Bama just switched conferences and spent the last 24 months hearing that they made a huge mistake and would get piss-pounded by their new rivals. And that the loudest voices they heard it from were coming from the same conference that was on the other side of the field.

Are all bowl games equal? No, they are not.

This one, OTOH, was absolutely huge for Missouri. It was a final **** you to the Big 12. It was proof that they are a great football team. It was a bounce-back from a strong thumping from Auburn.

Missouri isn't Alabama. They don't get to say "oh well, we won the title in 2012". They are constantly teetering on the brink of a crisis of confidence and wins like this are what they need to move further and further away from that cliff.

This was a massive win for the program, IMO.

Poetry. Every word...

Reap.....you are one of the well-thought and reasonable Bama fans. And you know that I know you are a Bama fan. But I work with a couple of Bama alumni and let me tell you, they aren't anywhere close to your same mindset. They pretty much spent most of the next day acting like someone pissed in their corn flakes, stupped their wives and reminded them that Auburn was playing for the NC.

One went as far as to say that he wished that Saban had taken the Texas job because he might have become complacent.

While you may be reasonable, you know that you are probably in the minority in that thinking.

Oh, that's good. Unfortunately, there are plenty of hack sportswriters who believe in that sort of thing about team momentum, even though it'll be a new team.

I'm not convinced that the outcome of a bowl game matters much in recruiting. Maybe embarrassing blowout losses could hurt, but regular ol' losses aren't that different from a regular ol' bowl win as far as recruiting goes. Just my opinion. The exposure that comes from the bowl game is good enough.

That depends on the program too, I suppose. A program that is seen as up and coming could benefit from bowl victories. Miami fans, for example, might need to be worried about UCF now.

But overall, my position on bowl games is unwavering: you definitely want to play in them, for the exposure and the extra weeks of practice. But for established programs the actual outcome of the game doesn't matter, or at least matters far less than any regular season game.

Eh, I can buy that with the caveat that all we're talking about it perception. Because it crumbles under close scrutiny; Missouri nearly lost this game, and the reason why it almost lost (Pinkel's stubbornness) isn't going away. Perception may have changed because of this win, but the program itself really doesn't change.

Well, Alabama has one of the worst fanbases in all of sports. None of that surprises me. Yeah, I'm well aware that I'm in the minority as far as Bama fans go. There are plenty of reasonable, analytical Alabama fans. There are, unfortunately, many many more country bumpkins and frat douches, none of whom understand football, that make up that fanbase.

In a sport where the whims of 18 yr old kids ultimately play a huge role in your ultimate success or failure, I'd say perception means a pretty fair amount.

You noted that bowl outcomes aren't huge for 'established' programs - well you don't become an established program without them. Mizzou's not there yet, but they're getting closer. This will help in that regard.

Oh, absolutely, he played poorly overall. I was simply responding to the idea of his final impression, which should be fairly good.

You're talking about Mizzou, but you're doing it from a crimson paradigm. If ever there is a school/program that needs a reason to puff out our chests, it's this one. What's more is that this win validates our season. It answered a lot of questions.

Awesome. You just won the intranets.

Just got home. This game killed a fully charged phone between text messages and group texts.

Defense really played its heart out and answered the bell after the SEC title game. Gave up a lot of total yards, but also faced 96 plays in this game. Things I really liked:

Harassed Chelf. He was making a lot of hurried throws.

PUNISHED the Okie Lite WRs. Loved how hard they were hitting. Loved the way they made them pay.

And made the play of the game when it mattered.

Won field position consistently.

Offensively, that was pretty ugly. Worst game I think Franklin has played, but he made plays when it mattered most. The Blaine Gabbert/Iowa reverse comparison is a great one.

Great game from Henry Josey and I hope we haven't see the last of him in black and gold.

Oh, and how about the Sack Fairy making one final play?

This win is important for Mizzou for a few reasons.

1) Any time you can win 12 games and finish in the top 5, it's important for a program of Mizzou's stature
2) Cements the idea that this WAS a good team and not just a product of its schedule

Everyone have a great night...after the excitement of that game I am going to make a feeble attempt to get some sleep.

Fat chance...but I gotta try.

First off, congrats from a Jayhawk fan. Big win for your program. Have to admit, I was pulling for OKState, mostly because I'm a KU fan, and secondly because I live in SEC country and I get sick of the LSU SEC hacks that pull for their "rival" when they aren't playing them. Now, one question. When will Green-Beckham declare for the draft? I would love to see him in a Chiefs jersey, although I don't see it happening.

To me, I'm just doing it from the paradigm of a lifelong Mizzou fan who has always felt that bowl games are a frilly extra thing. I've never understood, and will never understand, why we collectively place so much importance in them. They only matter because we pretend they do.

So for a Missouri fan such as myself, with that mental approach to bowl games, I thought our season was validated by winning the SEC East and making it to the conference championship game. That game (and its sad, sad outcome) will always matter to me more than all of the bowls combined. I don't feel very puffy right now. I gots puffed for winning the East, though. And I wouldn't have felt very downtrodden tonight if Mizzou had lost to OSU.

Do I want to ask who came up with this name?

The Chiefs won't draft high enough next year to get DGB.

The subtext is glaringly obvious.

Classy post, and I understand. I hate all the teams in my conference and don't "root" for them. Though I'm not surprised by the 6-2 bowl record.

DGB is a true sophomore. I imagine he'll blow up next year with Mauk throwing him the football and declare for the 2015 draft.

I agree almost completely. The SECE championship was the highlight of the season, but I think...hell, I know...that the importance of this game lies somewhere between where a casual fan considers it and where you consider it.

Well, yeah

Yeah, you right. I just wish it weren't that way. *sobs in corner, muttering 'exhibition' to himself*

Ealy just announced he's going pro.

I think we all kindof expected that, but it still smarts a bit.

Certainly. I just wonder if it was a moniker he gave himself, because then it becomes one of the most badassed forms of reappropriation ever.

That's the way I felt going into the game, honestly.

But as the game progressed... well, you know...

Congrats on the win. I know a lot of people that were bitching about not just outright benching Franklin as opposed to Pinkel playing musical chairs at QB when it was clear Mauk was playing much better. Josey and the MU defense bailed Pinkel out in this game. He had a magnificent game. Dudes a stud. He's going to be a steal in the NFL draft if his injuries cause his stock to drop.

It's from The-Mainboard Mizzou thread. One of the guys that posts in there is a senior at Mizzou and was the one who shared the info on Sam's proclivities (which I think are awesome, to be honest. This team loves him, and I think that's great).

Yep. "Cock suckin' sonofabitch" is the "motorboatin' sonofabitch".

Nothing turned me against the SEC quite like The Paul Finebaum show. It's like my own Radio Milles Collines.

I love the Finebaum show. It's like if CP were only bad/dumb posters, and instead of having discussions among each other they had to direct their takes at a single board moderator, who is himself a gigantic troll. My tolerance for stupid is pretty high, though.

Which is wonderful if it's a side dish rather than the entire menu, but that's my cross to bear. The sports radio station in town decided that they would cut into the last two hours of SVP and Rusillo (IMO, the best sports radio anywhere) to play it.

I see where you're coming from. I'm not a regular sports radio listener. When I do tune into Finebaum it is because I specifically want to laugh. I don't have to worry about his show taking away a slot from another show that offers better analysis & discussion.

I despise traditional sports radio. The fewer callers, the better. There's a local show in town that is passable, but aside from that I listen to SVP, The Herd, or Coach and Company. The Coach is a must listen, in part for some of the WWE stories he tells.

Sam really showed that he likes to strip and sack other dudes.