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In58men 01-19-2013 09:14 PM

Nope

Unsmooth-Moment 01-19-2013 09:17 PM

I'd give a third. Still need a QB @1 tho

FloridaMan88 01-19-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 9334063)
Who would be your 3rd QB? Are you saying we shouldn't trade for any of the 3 we will need?

I'd be very against trading for a QB if it involves giving up a 5th round or higher draft pick.

I like the approach Washington went with this year, high first round draft pick for their starting QB (RGIII), middle round draft pick for his back-up (Cousins), veteran QB as the third string QB, glorified assistant coach role (Rex Grossman).

If the Titans release Matt Hasselbeck, he'd be a good fit for that third string QB, glorified assistant coach role.

FranciscoD'Anconia 01-19-2013 09:17 PM

You guys are crazy talking about 6th or 7th for Foles. This guy has 1st round value and is better than any QB in this draft. There is no better QB available.

RunKC 01-19-2013 09:18 PM

I don't understand why people think that trading for Josh Freeman or Nick Foles is such a terrible idea?

If Reid thinks it's best, what's the problem?

Mr_Tomahawk 01-19-2013 09:19 PM

Can the guy study film?


He looks kinda...dumb.

Unsmooth-Moment 01-19-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranciscoD'Anconia (Post 9334092)
You guys are crazy talking about 6th or 7th for Foles. This guy has 1st round value and is better than any QB in this draft. There is no better QB available.

Agree to disagree. I see several QB's in this class beign graded as first round QB's. Foles was a 3rd rounder?

splatbass 01-19-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 9334091)
I'd be very against trading for a QB if it involves giving up a 5th round or higher draft pick.

I like the approach Washington went with this year, high first round draft pick for their starting QB (RGIII), middle round draft pick for his back-up (Cousins), veteran QB as the third string QB, glorified assistant coach role (Rex Grossman).

If the Titans release Matt Hasselbeck, he'd be a good fit for that third string QB, glorified assistant coach role.

I imagine Hasselbeck will find a better spot than third string on some team.

Brianfo 01-19-2013 09:23 PM

No. **** no. Go after a real QB.

FranciscoD'Anconia 01-19-2013 09:23 PM

Foles was a 3rd rounder because a) he was on a bad team which made him look worse and b) he ran a slow 40, with the "trend" being toward more mobile QBs. In Reid's system, the latter doesn't matter. That's why he slipped. He has EVERYTHING else. When he played, he exceeded expectations. All that having been said, he was a 3rd round pick in what may go down as the best QB draft of all time. IN this, relatively weak draft, that alone makes him early 2nd round value. The fact that he exceeded expectations makes him probably late first round value. Some mock drafts (Mel Kiper's for what its worth) have NO QBs with first round grades, and this is a weak draft all around.

Don't be fooled by the 3rd round pick thing. This guy can play. Don't be fooled by "we can pick a guy 1st overall". There aren't any good QBs in this draft.

keg in kc 01-19-2013 09:25 PM

Sure, why not. It's the same thing we always do. It's worked great for us in the past. In an Einstein definition of insanity kind of way.

CaliforniaChief 01-19-2013 09:25 PM

I'm with Pestilence on this. Nothing higher than a 6th. And I doubt Philly goes for that. A third? No way. Even with a potential compensatory pick for losing Carr, we're going to need those picks to build this roster.

I'm firmly in the draft Geno/Wilson at 1.1, and then in preference:
1. Sign a vet QB like Vick, Hasselbeck, Matt Moore.
2. Draft a guy like Dysert or Bray in middle rounds.
3. Keep Cassel as the backup.
4. Trade for someone else's backup.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-19-2013 09:26 PM

Posters seemed optimistic about him this time last year...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ighlight=foles

RunKC 01-19-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9334129)
Sure, why not. It's the same thing we always do. It's worked great for us in the past. In an Einstein definition of insanity kind of way.

Trent Green was a fantastic pickup.

And it wasn't his fault that we flopped. He had one of the worst defenses of all-time just like Geno.

milkman 01-19-2013 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FranciscoD'Anconia (Post 9334126)
Foles was a 3rd rounder because a) he was on a bad team which made him look worse and b) he ran a slow 40, with the "trend" being toward more mobile QBs. In Reid's system, the latter doesn't matter. That's why he slipped. He has EVERYTHING else. When he played, he exceeded expectations. All that having been said, he was a 3rd round pick in what may go down as the best QB draft of all time. IN this, relatively weak draft, that alone makes him early 2nd round value. The fact that he exceeded expectations makes him probably late first round value. Some mock drafts (Mel Kiper's for what its worth) have NO QBs with first round grades, and this is a weak draft all around.

Don't be fooled by the 3rd round pick thing. This guy can play. Don't be fooled by "we can pick a guy 1st overall". There aren't any good QBs in this draft.

Mel Kiper is a ****ing moron.

And anyone suggesting that this QB class is bad is just parroting that moron.

This QB class is better than any in the last 5-6 years, except last year.

These morons just can't wrap their low IQs around the idea that last years class was a generational class.


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