If we want to bring in Alex Smith to bridge the gap until a rookie is ready, that's one thing.

Bringing him in here to be the long term answer is silly.

15 positions of need?

Get the **** out of here.

Yep, he better.

And if they bring in Alex Smith, we better make the playoffs.

Alex Smith will get a starting job somewhere. No doubt.

Well we only had six probowlers and another first alternate.

15 is what is left
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He did more than Brady the following week. He also didn't fumble.

There is NO guarantee that the top QB in the draft picks up where Smith left off this season in San Fran.

I think it all depends on Reid's opinion of the QB's in this draft. If he sees a guy that will be ready in two years, I could see Smith signed in KC. If its less than two years, it needs to be a guy like Matt Moore.

Alex Smith also can't finish drives and is terrible in the red zone at getting 6. At least he was last year.

I just don't want the guy. He's an average QB, that's a big upgrade for us and all but I'd rather just ****ing draft a guy for crying out loud.

When is any rookie QB drafted these days not started immediately?

It's been awhile. I think Eli was the last guy who sat.

Yeah, it's definitely been a while. That's why Alex Smith is a terrible idea of a stop gap if they're choosing a QB #1 overall.

The guy wants to start and should be a starter somewhere.

Rodgers.

I think he was referring to the top pick, not just first rounders.

Oh. I never gave that any thought.

If we take a guy at 1-1, I'm with you. He needs to start immediately. Sink or swim.

Again, if they pay him like a LT, I don't think he'll care what position he plays. They can afford to pay him and a LT at #1 imo.

Your opinion is wrong.

Hey, you have a job to do. Get back over to the poll and keep trying to convince everyone to vote yes. LMAO

The poll wasn't my idea and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

It sure will be nice when you're gone though.

Basically the same thought has haunted the back of my mind. If Geno Smith and the rest, after all is said and done, grade out overall to be late first round quality players or worse, there is no reason we shouldn't go after a guy like Alex Smith and take our late first round QB in another year. Or a 2nd rounder this year.

For those of you who are gonna have a borderline coronary reading this I said "IF!" And I'm not saying this is the only way to go either.

Why?

If the QB we draft at #1 overall could play like Andy Dalton or Joe Flacco his first few years in the league, would you take that?

I actually would.

Chiefs are leaking a lot of info out. Again you can't believe leaked info or rumors you hear this time if year. Things will pick up in late April when we start negotiating with agents

There's no need to move Albert to the G position. That's just plain dumb.

I'm 10000% with this.

Harbaugh had him on a short leash.

What info is the Chiefs leaking?

I don't necessarily think that if we draft a guy he automatically has to start right now. It's just going to depend on the player.

I'll trust Reid/Pederson/Nagy to make that analysis. Pederson gets a ton of credit for mentoring McNabb.

Convince?

You are the most delusional person this forum has ever seen.

And trust me, we've seen a lot since it was created in 2000.

Oh, I think if the Chiefs draft a guy at #1 overall, he starts Day One.

Otherwise, terms like "Bust" will be thrown around immediately, unfairly or not.

It would be a P.R. disaster as well.

I'd like to see us get the best we can get now that it's (hopefully) the only time we have the top pick of the draft. Secretly, to me that sounds like a trade down with a partner who is willing to be raped.

If say Geno seriously grades out to be the 16th to 32nd best player in the draft I like to think we can do that at value next year or the year after. That's why suddenly signing someone like Alex Smith would be a viable option.

Going back to your scenario, there's no way for me to guarantee that any QB taken in the above range will ever play like Dalton or Flacco. So I really can't answer that. I guess, to partially answer your question, IF there were a magic crystal ball showing me for sure that Geno plays like the Flacco of late within a year or two, then I would say yes, I would take him with the 1st pick.

Albert to G, draft best player available and how they love Tyler Wilson. Think about it, nobody knows what KC is gonna do. The talking heads have inside sources. Every team leaks info out. That's why you shouldn't believe it. Wait until they start talking to the players agent.

I agree.

Geno Smith isn't the 16th player in this draft, nobody wants our pick, and Alex Smith isn't a free agent - we'd have to trade for him.

Very true.

Everyone blames Kyle Williams.

But the fact is, if Alex Smith makes just one or two plays, Kyle Williams never gets the opportunity to muff the second punt.

Alex Smith converted 1 of 13 first down opportunities.

That one conversion was a meaningless coversion as the first half was running out.

Alex Smith is more responsible for that loss than Kyle Williams.

McNabb didn't.

This isn't 1999.

This isn't 1999.

****ing knock it off!

JINX!!!

I didn't say he's moving to G. The Chiefs are gonna leak all kinds of false info out. Get used to it. This happens every year

The Chiefs aren't leaking that crap.

It's coming from dumbshit talking heads in the media.

Even if we sign Albert, these talking heads are gonna say they're moving Albert to G and they'll draft a LT. Let Dorsey and Reid complete their draft board and draft the BPA

Yep. Nobody outside of KC knows how good Albert is. I trust Andy Reid knows, though.

We sign Albert and the media will still say draft Joeckel and put Albert at G or RT.

If we come out and say that Albert is our LT, then the media will say draft Star because he's now the BPA.

It's a dumb, vicious cycle.

And ****tards in KC ran Albert down consistently throughout the first couple of years of his career. It wasn't entirely dissimilar to the level of stupidity directed at Carr when he was with the Chiefs.

Star isn't BPA. He skipped the Senior Bowl so he's probably no better than mid 1st round now.

If we take a LT that only gave up one sack and replace him with a project and use the first overall pick to do so, the team should get the rest of their draft picks taken from them as a punishment for being so dumb.

Star was afraid to go to the SR bowl. Can't take him at one. And take a non pass rushing DL that early? No thanks.

Joeckel is not a project. Give him his due credit.

Joeckel is actually a great LT. He's not Ogden like Miller says, but he's a great prospect. However, I don't want to start building around a LT, especially when we already have a very capable guy who is just finishing a rookie contract.

You're right.

The Raiders will love it when Hali and Houston are abusing his ass.

You don't know that. Sometimes even the most talented tackles wind up being projects.

D'Brickashaw Ferguson is a great example. Russell Okung.

And if you count ALL first round tackles, the list is endless.

Joeckel isn't Joe Thomas. He's not even Jake Long. Let's also not inflate his stock just because this is the worst group of non-QBs I've seen at the top of a draft in a long time.

I have given him his credit...all along I have said if we already had a qb he would be a good pick in the top five. But, he is from a spread system and lacks strength to handle the stronger rushers. He isn't a sure thing and IMO is about the same prospect Albert was coming out...maybe a hair better.

Might look back on this draft and laugh that Patterson isn't getting more love.

You could say that about any player. Well except Luck, RG3 and Peyton.

God danm! He will never stop whoring until he is gone! I was on the fence about keeping him, but this just sealed my vote. He is just like Bob in the movie "What about Bob". "HE NEVER GOES AWAY!"

Jockel is great, don't get me wrong. But a tackle is not a NEED right now. This first pick thing is a bitch this year. I WANT A QB! preferably not Barkley. Is Geno #1 worthy? I really hope so. If not, do we trade down a few? This will be a long couple of months. For the first time in a LONG while, I do have faith in our FO.

Pure and simple...if a qb is worth the 20th pick in the draft, he is worth the top pick...shit, it's starting to look like if you are worth a top 40 pick that you are worth a top five pick.

Rodgers, Kaepernick and Flacco are great examples of this.

When you need a qb, there is no such thing as a reach...you get the best guy you can and do everything you can to help him succeed.

Kyle Orton is a great example of how a qb can change a team. Average at best qb probably takes this team to the playoffs in 2011 had he played more games.

I agree with this. If we draft a QB this year he may not be able to do what Alex Smith could do for the team this year, but in the coming years he should develop and become better than any option we could have.

People forget that continuity has a ton to do with success in football, not only from the coaching standpoint, but your signal caller with that coaching staff. We need to get a guy in that hasn't peaked yet and can grow with the system our new FO is establishing. Waiting a year puts everything on hold.

Don't forget @DangeRussWilson

Haha, just saw this over at the Steelers section of SBNation in a mock draft.

Common sense among these "scouts" this year is like a breath of fresh air. Thanks for posting.

I understand this and it is somewhat correct and somewhat wrong. It is correct mainly because we are desperate. If a team is not desperate it is not correct at all.

You list players that have been successful. There is a huge list of players that this attitude would not work for.

JaMarcuss Russel, Jake Locker, Vince Young, Tim Tebow and Matt Lenert told me you must pick THE RIGHT QB top 40.

Players at every position bust. Over the last few years, qbs bust far less than other positions. Especially DL.

Really? Here I was hoping we'd pick the wrong QB up. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Just trying to say you dont draft a player just because. No matter how bad the need. Teams get into trouble over reaching. Initially, ill trust whatever decision Reid/Dorsey make.

You are correct DeBerg. Doesn't mean we have to like it but it is the reality how franchises look at it. Good franchises don't knee jerk and reach even if it is a desperate need. If they don't deem there to be a elite QB to take at #1, they won't reach over other more highly rated prospects.

Odds are at least one QB in this draft will be a good NFL player (if not great). Since we have the first pick we have the luxury of picking the QB we feel is that player. There is no reach.

I can understand the reach statement if we were drafting 10th. Let's say there are three QB's off the board. You don't just draft a QB just because in that situation because you might believe none of them are worth it. Someone is worth the number 1 pick. It's the FO's job to figure out who that is and draft them. No matter where they're expected to go (within reason).

He's got work to do in the running game. He's got elite athleticism and operates well in space as a pass blocker.

But his lower body needs work.

There aren't any more highly-rated prospects.

There is not one single "can't miss" guy in this draft.

Moore has question marks. Joeckel has question marks. Star has question marks. Jones has 1 HUGE question mark.

EVERY SINGLE GUY at the top of this draft has flaws. Every one of them has the potential to be a huge bust.

This is a really bad post.

That's what people say everytime there isn't a QB that is clearly the #1 pick.

I actually I would argue there are some can't miss LT's, DT's and Rush DE/OLB's in this draft. There is no can't miss QB yes but to say other positions are a lie.

There may be no one guy that stands above everyone else but doesn't mean there isn't multiple guys that aren't immediate impact long term pro bowl prospects.

Yep and we aren't going to pass on a franchise LT if we don't have one under contract for more than one year.

Name them.

Clinging to the cliff for as long as you can.

ROFL

Luke Joeckel
Eric Fisher (especially after owning this week)
Damontre Moore
Jarvis Jones

You don't think these guys are legit top 5 talent?

Joeckel isn't even the best LT in this class, let alone worth the #1 pick.

Fisher looks like the real deal to me. If we can't re-sign Albert, he could be a consideration.

Moore I personally think is a stud but he's a tweener and people have questioned his ceiling.

Jarvis Jones - spinal stenosis.

Again, there are ZERO "can't" miss prospects in this draft. All of those guys have question marks...

EDIT: I just noticed your qualifier about "top 5" talent. All of these guys save Jones are top 5 talents, as are Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson. I'm talking about specifically being worth the CHIEFS pick at #1.

I will say this. I think Joeckel is damn lucky that Taylor Lewan stayed in school because he is the next elite LT prospect IMO.

Aside from the busted run play in the bowl game, Lewan made Jadeveon Clowney, the best pass rusher in college, his bitch all game long. I've never seen so much ownage.

Lewan is one nasty SOB too. I think he'll be a better prospect than Jake Long next season barring a huge letdown/injury.