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Amnorix 02-14-2014 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10433101)
I went to private schooling with whites and I am white and I wouldn't put up with that bull$#it.

He's just a pu$$y.

It doesn't make what happened to him right but I feel no sympathy when you just sit there and take it...


Incognito agrees. So the fact that Martin's not as mentally tough, as emotionally strong, as you makes him a BETTER target for bullying than you, but it means he gets no sympathy from you, because you think he's a pussy. That makes PERFECT sense. Brilliant!



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Originally Posted by Wells Report
Fine for “Breaking Jmart”

Incognito told us that he and other offensive linemen routinely speculated,
albeit in jest, about which of their teammates would “break first” in response to taunting, and notations in the fine book substantiate this. One lineman, Nate Garner, was subjected to so much derision that a joke developed that Garner, who owned several guns, might “break” by coming to the Dolphins facility and shooting everyone. On September 30, 2013, for example, Incognito wrote a text message to a former teammate in which he stated: “Nate is on the verge of killing us all.” When asked to elaborate, Incognito explained: “Since we cut [another player] we have been non stop on nate. Even turner is in on it. He looks like he’s about to cry 24/7.” In the hours after Martin left the Dolphins, Incognito recorded in the fine book a $200 penalty against himself for “breaking Jmart,” awarded Garner a $250 bonus for “not cracking first,” and wrote down the following fines for Martin:
100 pussy
100 pussy
100 pussy
100 pussy
1,000,000.00 pussy

Incognito acknowledged that the entries in question all relate to Martin’s
decision to leave the team. At first Incognito claimed that he did not know why he had been fined for “breaking Jmart,” but upon being told that the notations appeared to be in his handwriting, Incognito did not dispute that “breaking Jmart” meant causing Martin to have an emotional reaction in response to taunting.


'Hamas' Jenkins 02-14-2014 01:33 PM

So, Incognito's the real victim here because he's white and Jonathan Martin is a pussy for not standing up to him.

Chiefsplanet...

Amnorix 02-14-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10433237)
Did Martin ever tell Incognito that what he was doing was demeaning and hoped it would stop?


Nope, not as such. Instead Martin seemed to try to befriend Incognito.



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Originally Posted by Wells Report
According to our consulting psychologist, William H. Berman, Ph.D., an expert in matters relating to workplace dynamics, interaction and culture and interpersonal dysfunction within workplace relationships, this factual scenario is consistent with a case of an abusive workplace relationship. Nevertheless, based on the entire record that we reviewed, we are not prepared to reduce these events to a simple or paradigmatic case of bullying. It is more ambiguous and complicated, because, purportedly in an effort to deal with the bullying, Martin developed a curious but seemingly close friendship with Incognito, his alleged primary harasser. Yet, while there is no doubt that Martin at times enjoyed socializing with Incognito, his efforts to befriend Incognito also is consistent with the reaction of a person who is trapped in an abusive situation. As Dr. Berman explained, attempting to develop a close friendship with an abusive person is a common coping mechanism exhibited by victims of abusive relationships.


Mr. Laz 02-14-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 10433275)
Exactly, its not like he's gonna do prison time... and yes, he definitely needs to shut his yap, cant believe his agent and lawyer didn't keep him from the latest twitter outburst.

I imagine everyone told him to shut up, he just wouldn't or couldn't.

If Incognito had just kept his mouth shut and then said he was sorry, he would have had a starting job next season. Now i'm not sure teams will trust him.

Halfcan 02-14-2014 01:36 PM

So over this dolphin drama. I have heard worse stuff on an average day reading Chiefs Planet.

kstater 02-14-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10433287)
So, Incognito's the real victim here because he's white and Jonathan Martin is a pussy for not standing up to him.

Chiefsplanet...

Yup. I can't believe people see the report, and STILL side with Incognito chalking it up to "that's the way it is in NFL" and think it's acceptable.

mcaj22 02-14-2014 01:37 PM

do you think a team takes a chance on Ritchie and signs him?

patteeu 02-14-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10433297)
So over this dolphin drama. I have heard worse stuff on an average day reading Chiefs Planet.

Jonathan Martin wouldn't last long on ChiefsPlanet.

Amnorix 02-14-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 10433289)
Nope, not as such. Instead Martin seemed to try to befriend Incognito.



Sorry, I hadn't read further down into the report. A little further review turns this up.

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Originally Posted by Wells Report
Martin informed us that his initial reaction to these insults was to object, saying things like, “stop it – that’s disgusting,” or “that’s gross,” but that these tepid responses merely emboldened Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey. On occasion, by Martin’s account, he responded by saying, “**** you,” to which a teammate might respond, “I’m still going to **** your sister.” Once, upon hearing vulgar comments about his sister while waiting for an offensive unit meeting to begin, he says that he threatened “to start swinging in 30 seconds” if the comments did not stop, but his threat was not taken seriously, and the comments stopped only because coaches arrived and the meeting began. Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey said they did not recall hearing Martin issue this challenge, but another player recalled that on several occasions Martin told them to stop and threatened to start swinging.


Donger 02-14-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 10433300)
Yup. I can't believe people see the report, and STILL side with Incognito chalking it up to "that's the way it is in NFL" and think it's acceptable.

I don't think it's acceptable, but I do think that Martin seems to have over-reacted to Icognito's stupid behavior.

I wonder if Incognito stopped teasing the trainer after being told to stop.

Amnorix 02-14-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10433301)
do you think a team takes a chance on Ritchie and signs him?


Sure. I mean all those great quotes about women won't turn off the owner's wife, the GM's wife, the HC's wife, the team's female fans, etc.

And I mean he's a powerhouse. Greatest guard ever. He's THE difference-maker to any NFL team.

Incognito's career is dead. He's poison. Why would any team risk the focus and derision picking him would bring?

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-14-2014 01:42 PM

Martin should have punched him in the mouth over the sister comments. The trouble here for me is the asst. coach. He's not Incogito's employee equal, that is a whole new area of wrong

Easy 6 02-14-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10433301)
do you think a team takes a chance on Ritchie and signs him?

If Cooper can threaten to "fight every ****er here" and Vick can go to prison, I don't see why someone wouldn't.

Amnorix 02-14-2014 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10433306)
I don't think it's acceptable, but I do think that Martin seems to have over-reacted to Icognito's stupid behavior.


He did overreact. But the same reason he over-reacted is what made Incognito pick him out for especially over-the-top bullying.

You think anybody tells Ray Lewis / Ndamukung Suh / etc. the stuff they were saying to Martin? Of course not. Those guys would bash your face into a sink until you had no teeth left and then start the beating. But Martin WAS a pussy, by NFL-locker room standards, and he wasn't mentally equipped to take it (obviously).

But that doesn't excuse Incognito in any way. He's obviously a turd of a human being, and deserves what he got, and to have his career end in ignominy.

Amnorix 02-14-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 10433312)
Martin should have punched him in the mouth over the sister comments. The trouble here for me is the asst. coach. He's not Incogito's employee equal, that is a whole new area of wrong


Turner should be out of football, I agree.


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