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The Franchise 04-12-2008 01:31 PM

Other - Josh Johnson

suds79 04-12-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone (Post 4680844)
Like I said in another thread.... if Brennan is there when we go to pick in the 4th, I would like to see him picked up.

I realized he played in a weak conference but the numbers he put up there were astonishing.

The thing is about Col Brennan that scares me is that he seems pretty frail.

At the Senior Bowl he was 6'2 185.

Now he bumped up to 205 at the combine but he's still pretty small. He's skinnier than Croyle.

Plus like a lot of QBs from the spread offense, he has little to no time taking snaps under center.

KCChiefsMan 04-12-2008 01:56 PM

I say we ride the Brodie train this year and if he isn't going to work out we wait until next year for a QB. Of course, I don't know what the talent will be like next year though.

suds79 04-12-2008 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 4680873)
I say we ride the Brodie train this year and if he isn't going to work out we wait until next year for a QB. Of course, I don't know what the talent will be like next year though.

So you're for starting a rookie at that point?

ChiefsCountry 04-12-2008 02:20 PM

I like Brodie better than any of the quarterbacks in this year's draft.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-12-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4680694)
Ive read he compares favorably to Matt Hasselbeck. Id take that kind of production, no doubt.

I would too, if he was there in the late first round. But a #5 pick is a franchise cornerstone, and that is not what Matt Ryan will ever be.

KCChiefsMan 04-12-2008 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 4680875)
So you're for starting a rookie at that point?

not necessarily, if Brodie looks like $hit this year (which I don't think he will). Then we draft a QB in 2009, Matt Ryan could be a good player but I'm not sure if he's worth the pick we have...he's the best QB in the class but that's not saying much this year. But if we did draft a QB high next year, I suppose you could start him from day 1, but I'm not sure if that's a great idea.

Mecca 04-12-2008 02:42 PM

Next years QB class is worse.......

Honestly when looking at the QB's you have to look at what team this is. I personally like Woodsons upside but the Chiefs would ruin him, he needs coaching and refinement same for Flacco...

The Chiefs should be high on guys like Ryan because he doesn't need much coaching he's smart and technically sound already.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-12-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4680913)
Next years QB class is worse.......

Honestly when looking at the QB's you have to look at what team this is. I personally like Woodsons upside but the Chiefs would ruin him, he needs coaching and refinement same for Flacco...

The Chiefs should be high on guys like Ryan because he doesn't need much coaching he's smart and technically sound already.

That kind of logic is reeruned. If you don't have good position coaches, we will endlessly suck, because you can't draft ready-made players in every round.

We might as well just give up.

Moreover, this stance directly contradicts your own belief in drafting BPA, because you are drafting a less worthy prospect based on a perceived future need or a lack of available prospects the next year (which is largely unknowable).

This is how you end up with Jr. Siavii.

AustinChief 04-12-2008 02:59 PM

http://www.mrisports.com/images/Helm...iganHelmet.JPG

My guess... the best QB value in this draft... wore a helmet like this...

Pic 04-12-2008 03:04 PM

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...shanefalco.jpg

keg in kc 04-12-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 4680931)
http://www.mrisports.com/images/Helm...iganHelmet.JPG

My guess... the best QB value in this draft... wore a helmet like this...

Flacco?

Mecca 04-12-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4680929)
That kind of logic is reeruned. If you don't have good position coaches, we will endlessly suck, because you can't draft ready-made players in every round.

We might as well just give up.

Moreover, this stance directly contradicts your own belief in drafting BPA, because you are drafting a less worthy prospect based on a perceived future need or a lack of available prospects the next year (which is largely unknowable).

This is how you end up with Jr. Siavii.

I was just telling him that because he said he didn't know about next year.....Ryan to me is was and should be a top 5 pick.

You trust the Chiefs to develop a QB that needs mechanical and footwork changes and isn't very refined? I don't.......

Deberg_1990 04-12-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 4680845)
Yeah, that was merely a comparison of how I felt about him. My "feeling" method isn't nearly 100%. But coming out of college, I just had a definite "meh" feeling about him.


Rivers and Roethlisberger are two good recent examples of guys who were drafted high, turned out to be very good QB's, yet arnt exactly "dynamic, game changing, elite" QB's.

I guess the Chiefs better wait another 20-30 years before a John Elway or Peyton Manning comes along again....LOL

nychief 04-12-2008 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4680899)
I would too, if he was there in the late first round. But a #5 pick is a franchise cornerstone, and that is not what Matt Ryan will ever be.

are you saying Hasselbeck is not a franchise QB?


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