ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   What QB do you like in this draft class? (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=182854)

OnTheWarpath15 04-12-2008 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 4681019)
are you saying Hasselbeck is not a franchise QB?

Do you think that Hasselbeck's production is worth the 5th overall pick?

I don't.

10 years in the league and not a single 4000 yard season - only 2 seasons over 3500.

1.5 TD's per INT.

Only two seasons of a QB rating over 90%

He's solid, but not Top 5 worthy. JMO.

nychief 04-12-2008 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4681025)
Do you think that Hasselbeck's production is worth the 5th overall pick?

I don't.

10 years in the league and not a single 4000 yard season - only 2 seasons over 3500.

1.5 TD's per INT.

Only two seasons of a QB rating over 90%

He's solid, but not Top 5 worthy. JMO.


i disagree... super bowl appearance, solid, pro bowls... that is a top 5 pick. You can't expect a Hall of Famer with a top 5 pick, you expect an impact player. Hasselbeck is an impact player, if not flashy. JMO

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-12-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 4681019)
are you saying Hasselbeck is not a franchise QB?

Absolutely.

OnTheWarpath15 04-12-2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 4681028)
i disagree... super bowl appearance, solid, pro bowls... that is a top 5 pick. You can't expect a Hall of Famer with a top 5 pick, you expect an impact player. Hasselbeck is an impact player, if not flashy. JMO

I expect more from a Top 5 pick, and the organization should as well.

Carson Palmer ALREADY has more:

3500+ yard seasons (3, including two 4000+)

Seasons of 90%+ QB rating (2)

25+ TD seasons (3)

Than Hasselbeck, all in 4 years to Hasselbeck's TEN.

THAT is a Top 5 QB. Not above average.

AustinChief 04-12-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 4680945)
Flacco?

I think either Flacco or Henne will end up being pretty damn good... I'm not sold on which one yet.. probably Flacco.

ChiefsCountry 04-12-2008 04:11 PM

Matt Ryan is Brodie Croyle with a bigger frame. Those two are identical in about everything, its just the freaking year they are drafted that makes the difference.

the Talking Can 04-12-2008 04:14 PM

i feel the same about QB and DT..we need top talent, not more mid-round maybes...

if we want a QB then draft Ryan, if we want a DT than draft Ellis/Dorsey....

otherwise don't waste a pick on the positions....(unless it's a 5th or lower...)

penguinz 04-12-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4680948)
Ryan to me is was and should be a top 5 pick.

Chase Daniels has better numbers in his college career.

the Talking Can 04-12-2008 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 4681059)
Chase Daniels has better numbers in his college career.

which means absolutely nothing

angelo 04-12-2008 04:22 PM

I would go Ryan if Long, Long, Dorsey and Ellis are gone in the first round.

If we were going for a back up or project.

In the middle I would consider Dennis Dixon and late I would consider Josh Johnson.

Mecca 04-12-2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 4681059)
Chase Daniels has better numbers in his college career.

That's nice, he's also a midget in a spread option offense.....college stats mean jack and shit.

Also Ryan and Croyle are not remotely the same as prospects, for starters I think Matt Ryan can be breathed on and not get injured.

'Hamas' Jenkins 04-12-2008 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 4681046)
I think either Flacco or Henne will end up being pretty damn good... I'm not sold on which one yet.. probably Flacco.

Flacco is a homeless man's Drew Bledsoe at best.

nychief 04-12-2008 04:31 PM

Hasselbeck was in and, without the refs idiocy, would have a super bowl ring. Look, I agree we should have high expectations but lets be realistic... If we drafted Matt Ryan and he had Matt Hasselbeckesque career, how could you be disappointed? BUt lets put away the time machine for now...

nychief 04-12-2008 04:32 PM

one other thing... Carson Palmer was the #1 pick... I think you're projecting number one overall expectations on every player in the top 5.

Mecca 04-12-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 4681081)
one other thing... Carson Palmer was the #1 pick... I think you're projecting number one overall expectations on every player in the top 5.

Seems people think that unless you are getting a HOF QB you shouldn't be using a top 5 pick on one, it's rather unrealistic in all honesty...


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:36 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.