Congrats though, and keep at it.

Fair point, but I do think obesity is a different issue entirely from sugar hysteria.

So I need to quit eating red meat and now sugar. I think I'll suck it up and just die happy instead.

I'm a believer in most everything is okay in moderation, not always a follower, but a believer.

The Red Meat one is bullshit though. There is actual science behind the sugar one.

Yeah, skinny people don't have heart attacks.

Agreed....moderation is the key. I do think that along with moderation people should be more aware of what they are putting in their body and how your body reacts to it.

Yeah, you see where I said "or having to worry about heart disease..."?

Do you see that part?

Do you Brock?

Skinny people who have heart attacks largely have them based on genetic factors.

FIELD MARSHALL MONTGOMERY: "I neither drink nor smoke and am a hundred percent fit."

WINSTON CHURCHILL: "I drink and smoke and I am two hundred percent fit."

Also stop smoking cigarettes and stop drinking so much god damn alcohol.

Unless you are ****ed by genetics like me. I look healthier than 99% of people but have been on high BP meds since I was 21. I couldn't do anything to control it. God damn parents are health nuts too, and none of us have ever been over weight. But we all have high BP.

Implying only fat people have heart attacks. If that wasn't what you meant, learn to write better.

I lost 75 lbs without jogging a block, lifting a weight or anything else, sitting in front of a computer monitor, studying and going to classes. Just, every time I'd get hungry I'd get some more ice water to fill my belly.

Weirdly, though, once I got to 195, I can't lose anything more, despite a prolonged sinus/viral thing where I consumed little more than water for weeks on end. Seriously I'd eat 10-12 peanut butter pretzels, or a couple sausage links, ambitious days I'd have a single meal of spaghetti and meatballs [I was so tired breathing through the mucus in my esophagus that cooking food was more tiring than I was hungry]. And I'd dip to MAYBE 193.

Start logging your food and send it to me after a week.

I'm betting it's sugar. My extremely high BP has lowered into the normal range since I cut sugar. Coincidence?

You don't actually have to worry about anything, really.