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Silock 07-06-2008 06:17 AM

Guillen's antics -- Your take on them
 
At first, I was willing to chalk it up to a guy disappointed with not winning. Now I just think he's a douchebag. He knew what he was signing up for when he signed with the Royals. Why be pissed about it all the time? **** him.

KC_Connection 07-06-2008 07:24 AM

He's been a lunatic his entire career, why stop being one in KC of all places?

Deberg_1990 07-06-2008 08:03 AM

I dont have a problem with it as long as he keeps putting up the numbers.

The Royals have needed a guy like this for years. IM glad he doesnt just accept losing.

Chief Chief 07-06-2008 08:35 AM

Guillen went off on a tirade with the media about a month ago which stirred up things in a good way with the Royals soon thereafter winning 12 straight. Maybe he thinks that always being pissed off at his teammates/coaches will always result in victories. According to Splittorf's post-game comments last night, none of his teammates wanted to be near him at the batting cage before the game and Guillen didn't speak to any of them there either. I think it's great that he has a passion for the game with a strong desire to win, but someone's got to inject a good dose of reality into his head and clearly explain how his behavior is undermining the success and positive stuff the team's established so far. Guillen will get better results by being more accepting and supportive of his teammates and situation rather than displaying childish antics of throwing things and yelling. I'm hoping he'll show that over the next 7 weeks or the club just may have to offer him up for trade to a contending team. But maybe that's exactly what Guillen wants to happen...

Bowser 07-06-2008 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4830514)
I dont have a problem with it as long as he keeps putting up the numbers.

The Royals have needed a guy like this for years. IM glad he doesnt just accept losing.

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief (Post 4830526)
Guillen went off on a tirade with the media about a month ago which stirred up things in a good way with the Royals soon thereafter winning 12 straight. Maybe he thinks that always being pissed off at his teammates/coaches will always result in victories. According to Splittorf's post-game comments last night, none of his teammates wanted to be near him at the batting cage before the game and Guillen didn't speak to any of them there either. I think it's great that he has a passion for the game with a strong desire to win, but someone's got to inject a good dose of reality into his head and clearly explain how his behavior is undermining the success and positive stuff the team's established so far. Guillen will get better results by being more accepting and supportive of his teammates and situation rather than displaying childish antics of throwing things and yelling. I'm hoping he'll show that over the next 7 weeks or the club just may have to offer him up for trade to a contending team. But maybe that's exactly what Guillen wants to happen...

Agree with both of these.

Deberg_1990 07-06-2008 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Chief (Post 4830526)
Guillen will get better results by being more accepting and supportive of his teammates and situation rather than displaying childish antics of throwing things and yelling.

Guess we should have just kept Sweeney then.

Bowser 07-06-2008 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 4830529)
Guess we should have just kept Sweeney then.

I bet Guillen would choose Tequilla over milk and cookies.

Hound333 07-06-2008 08:45 AM

While I don't 100% agree with how he goes about it, I like that we have a player here now that doesn't appear to be a "I'm just here to pick up a check" type player. I would rather have people who want to win, and bad.

KCUnited 07-06-2008 09:04 AM

I'm not sure this was a "I'm sick of not winning" rant. The Star reported this morning that he was being loud, knocked over a chair and McClure told him to quiet down and Guillen got in his face and it nearly came to blows. I'm a Guillen fan, but that sounds like destuctive club house behavior. I'll reserve judgement until more of the story comes out, if it comes out at all.

wutamess 07-06-2008 09:09 AM

I'm all for it. About damn time someone is willing to buck the system that hasn't worked for almost 20 years. Maybe some of the Royals players will get off of their asses and maybe this will light a fire under them.

I'm sick of every year being the "contending" year for the Royals. How many "rebuilding" years can you have out of 20 years? I seem to remember a bunch of CP'ers saying that Brett or McCrae or Wilson or White would've layed into someone's ass by now (and that was 3-4 years ago). Why go after Guillen for doing it? Now we're left with the total pussification of the Royals.

Fugg the PCness. Play some fuggin ball and get down, dirty and passionate while doing it.

Give'm hell Guillen... GIVE'M HELL!

Silock 07-06-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 4830556)
I'm all for it. About damn time someone is willing to buck the system that hasn't worked for almost 20 years. Maybe some of the Royals players will get off of their asses and maybe this will light a fire under them.

I'm sick of every year being the "contending" year for the Royals. How many "rebuilding" years can you have out of 20 years? I seem to remember a bunch of CP'ers saying that Brett or McCrae or Wilson or White would've layed into someone's ass by now (and that was 3-4 years ago). Why go after Guillen for doing it? Now we're left with the total pussification of the Royals.

Fugg the PCness. Play some fuggin ball and get down, dirty and passionate while doing it.

Give'm hell Guillen... GIVE'M HELL!

IMO, you don't have to be an abrasive loudmouth to be a leader and inspire your teammates to win. There are countless examples of this in all team sports.

Deberg_1990 07-06-2008 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 4830570)
IMO, you don't have to be an abrasive loudmouth to be a leader and inspire your teammates to win. There are countless examples of this in all team sports.


True, but we are talking about an organization who havent made the playoffs in 23 years.

It would be different if they had even an ounce of success. This team needs some sort of enema.

wutamess 07-06-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Silock (Post 4830570)
IMO, you don't have to be an abrasive loudmouth to be a leader and inspire your teammates to win. There are countless examples of this in all team sports.


Sweeney? :rolleyes:

eazyb81 07-06-2008 10:24 AM

I'd love to have 8 more players like him. We need more guys that put up big numbers rather than nice guys like Buck and Gload who suck balls.

I'm actually shocked that any real Royals fan would be disappointed in Guillen. He's probably our best offensive free agent in a decade, but fans are angry because he doesn't give nice flowery quotes about the 2nd worst team in the AL?

Silock 07-06-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 4830616)
He's probably our best offensive free agent in a decade, but fans are angry because he doesn't give nice flowery quotes about the 2nd worst team in the AL?

I'm pissed about the altercation with the pitching coach, not what he said in the media. What he said NEEDED to be said.

I can't say that nearly coming to blows with the pitching coach is needed at ALL.


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