Giants cut Ahmad Bradshaw and Chris Canty
 

I like both of these guys. I'd love to see Bradshaw come here as Charles' backup. Canty could play one-gap 3-4 end.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ew-york-giants

Please no...A 27-year old walking injury that will command a decent paycheck and is going to take away carries from Charles? RBs are so easy to replace. Why bring in a guy who is on the way down when the roster already has some young, cheap talent at the position?

Bradshaw is washed up.

RB's are a dime a dozen in the draft.

Why waste money on a brokedick?

I think our RBs suck.

No one is gonna pay Bradshaw much, and probably not to be a starter. He'd be a perfect fit here as a #2 if his foot is OK.

a 26-year old RB who averaged 4.6 YPC is washed up?

His foot has never been "OK".

Source

How good was Canty last year? Is he starter quality?

It may be time to stop looking for an expensive backup to Charles.

Reid doesn't utilize power backs, really. He kinda used Buckhalter, but not terribly well. He's going to continue to look for fast, shifty, HR style RBs.

His RB usage is perfect for Charles - 250ish carries and a bunch more passes out of the backfield. Why do we need Bradshaw to pick up the scraps there? Bradshaw would've been great if we were trying to run last season's offense, but I just don't think there's a need for a top tier backup to Charles in this system.

I like Bradshaw a ton - yeah, he gets dinged but he plays through a lot and is a damn tough runner - he's just not right for this team, IMO.

As for Canty - yeah, I'm on board there.

bradshaw > syphilis

Canty, who recorded 20 tackles and three sacks in 2012.

That was as a 4-3 DT though. I'd give him a shot at 3-4 DE.

No thanks on Bradshaw. Can't stay healthy, terrible attitude, and too expensive. He's only 26 but he's been put through the spin cycle a bit too much. You can find RBs in late rounds to fill holes. Not to mention I like Draughn and Gray as backups

no to both of these turds

I hate pretty much all FA RBs.

Don't do it.

Just draft your RBs in the 4th or later and give them the ball.

See a Robert Turbin for Seattle this year. 4th round rookie. Averaged 4.4 YPC.

Canty was pretty good in Dallas 3-4.

I think he's better than Dorsey or Jackson by far.

I'd take Canty to cheap contract, and pass on Bradshaw.
Like Hootie said, dime a dozen.

But Peyton Hillis, Thomas Jones?

I'd have no problem signing him.

Chris Canty has injured the same knee

twice

in 2012.

and was on the PUP list to start the season.


And yet you guys want to sign him lol

Yeah I bet you hated Priest Holmes and Marcus Allen.

The value of the RB position and specifically a "workhorse" back has significantly changed in the last 10 years.

Exactly why Bradshaw would be a good signing as a #2.

He had offseason knee surgery to clean some stuff up and was put on the PUP. Got activated and sprained his MCL in December. You act like he tore an ACL and then tore it again.

and you act like the guy is healthy and would be better than anything we could get in the draft or FA

Considering that Dorsey isn't under contract and Tyson Jackson should get cut because of his contract.......yeah.....at this point....he's better than anything we have.

Oh, is this where we get to compare Bradshaw to these guys now? :popcorn:

Well certainly the exception & not the rule.

I don't have absolutes. I think that gets you in trouble.

Furthermore, I don't like to look at trends from 10+ years ago. #NotRelevant

Just say no to veteran RB.

In fact, I probably wouldn't take a RB in the first round, either. Their value has just changed so much in the last few years, there is virtually no benefit from drafting a guy that high or paying that much.

In order to justify the cost you have to overuse him, which breaks him down, therefore making his cost undeserved.

It's a catch 22.

Bradshaw has been a top 10 RB on PFF 4 years in a row.

He's pretty good. Runs well, good receiver, GREAT blocker.

Gray will be to Charles as LJ was to Holmes on the field.

Cyrus Gray is going to run for 1700 yards now? ROFL

He will also want to be paid a lot for all those things.

That's dumb as ****.

No one in this league gives FA RBs big contracts.

I bet he gets a one-year deal.

i just think better options will clearly pop up than him.

I bet he goes somewhere like the Steelers.

You take what you can get when you've failed as hard as the Chiefs have at finding good defensive tackles the past 20 years or so.

We've done everything. 1st round, middle round, late round, free agents, trades... NOTHING has worked.

We may as well scour the wires for vets coming off injuries.

We hired Andy Reid, dude. Our running backs are just fine.

I'd take Canty on a 1 or 2 year deal for 3 million a year or so...that's about it.

Either way, I think its time to be done with this "compliment to Charles" rhetoric. Just try and find another running back similar to Charles. No more, big and small, etc.


He will cost alot more, but I would like to see Reggie Bush in an Andy Reid offense.

I actually think Bradshaw would be a great pickup up for us expressly because he can pass block so well.

He would allow Charles to get out in routes more.

Despite what you think about Andy Reid, their backup saw the field for 346 snaps last year.

Bradshaw is not a big back.

I'm not saying he is. Just in general.

Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl
The transaction listed for Ahmad Bradshaw's release was failed physical.

Bradshaw is busted and Canty is worth vet minimum, at best.

I don't understand how a guy a guy who maybe just had his best season as a pro is "busted," but whatever.

Unlubricated prostate exam> Bradshaw

hes not even healthy lol

How many times in recent memory have the NY Giants made a mistake for letting players go?

Mario Maningham? No.
Brandon Jacobs? No.
Kevin Boss? No.
Jeremy Shockey? No.

If the Giants let you go, your career is either over or nearly over.

Madison Hedgecock and that Center Shaun O Hara too

I believe both guys made the Pro Bowl and they STILL cut them lol or chose not to bring them back, same thing

Bradshaw can't stay healthy either. Even when he was playing, it was always tenuous leading into the game.

If you have a special talent, you can take a RB in the first round, particularly if you need leverage against your existing running back getting an extension.

But the best reason to sign Bradshaw is that we need to save our draft picks for OT and many defensive linemen, oooh yeaaaah.

Getting hurt constantly equals busted.

Great point

Minimal FAs. I want them to keep building this team through the draft. Sign our key FAs draft a QB#1 and draft well after that.

Exhibit #1,247 that goatboy's player personnel opinions and evaluations are absolute trash.

No to both.

But PFF said!!!

that's right, you don't

Link???

I would never sign a RB in free agency for more than the vet min

RB is the one position you just draft or sign UDFA's

literally a next man up position

it's nice to have the "special" back like Charles...but you can find a back of the scrap heaps and as long as your line can block he can average 4-5 YPC

system usually makes the back

No and no...

Yup, this.


Eh, let's not get stupid...

riiight

bradshaw used to be on the scrap heaps

along with probably half of the other starters in the NFL

The Giants get it...

Its all about the QB
RBs are a dime a dozen in todays NFL
keep drafting pass rushers.....

other than elite...RB is like the most difficult position to scout

you have 50 guys who have remarkably close measurables and no one really knows how they'll translate to the NFL

will they be durable? are they a player? do they have vision? etc etc etc

that's why you see your Beanie Wells' and Joseph Addai's...and then your Arian Foster's and Alfred Morris'...

it's just a position you fill with 4th and below and UDFA

You can replace a HB with a 3rd round pick and land an a 1,400 yard guy almost every year.

You can't land a 3,000 yard passer that easy...

The Giants 50% get it. They get that these guys are expendable, which they are, but then they spent a 1st rd pick on a back last year.

Where'd that get them?...

well you can do that when your drafting 32nd......

uhm

no ****ing shit?

I almost think you can't read. I haven't said anything about passing in this entire thread.

We'll find out next season, but it's rare that I'd spend a 1st round pick on ANY RB.

I wasn't talking to you.

When I challenge your manhood with my Halo level we'll have something to talk about...

you quoted my post

I stand corrected.

I'm so use to stupid pouring out of you I never even considered it was sarcasm...

Rausch...

I hate to break this to you. You are one of the dumbest "football" posters on this board.

You'd probably be ok until you start spouting your opinions about football. They are terrible.

I'd put them against yours any day.

And if you're talking about predictions or projections I'd love you to elaborate and provide a better record...

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo

Btw, former Giants DT Chris Canty visited the Titans over the weekend and will now meet with the Chiefs. Could be more visits coming.

Sweet. Reid and Dorsey taking my counsel.