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Reaper16 01-30-2014 03:45 PM

I'd rather have Ventura's arm at play in the playoffs than at the start of the season, if that's the internal choice that the organization has to make. I like better the idea of having him called up from day 1 & just skipping some starts.

DeezNutz 01-30-2014 03:49 PM

Have to start with all pieces in place because this team's margins for trying to win the division will be razor thin.

duncan_idaho 01-30-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10402821)
I'd rather have Ventura's arm at play in the playoffs than at the start of the season, if that's the internal choice that the organization has to make. I like better the idea of having him called up from day 1 & just skipping some starts.

If that's the plan, then I'd focus on trying to save 5-8 starts by skipping him at the start of the year, maybe skipping a start at the ASB.

If he averages 6 IP/start, keeping him around 26-27 starts probably leaves you within enough breathing room to use him without limitation in the playoffs.

They also should look to do the quick yank in games in which the runs have a big lead. Hopefully, with Ventura pitching at the 4 or 5, there will be some chances to do that!

Prison Bitch 01-30-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10402818)
I agree.

Speaking hypothetically, if you're concerned about an innings limit with him and want to limit his innings and pitch count but keep him on a starter's schedule, that might be easier to do in Omaha/the minors.

I wouldn't do it, personally. You can probably get the same effect by having him on the Opening Day roster, making him the 5th starter, and skipping some starts early in the year. But I'd probably just come out of the gate blazing with him and let him do what he can.

As a Latin American signing who did NOT sign for a big bonus immediately, Ventura is the type of guy who might fit in with a Perez/Escobar-type extension.


Hate to say it but we have to make hay this year. There is no future after 2014. We need to have this mindset. If Dayton's plan was ever going to work it must be now. Or else his GFTOAT (greatest farm team....) was meaningless as was the Shields deal as was the Aoki deal as was bringing Infante in etc. small markets need to be patient until its time to not be patient and this is our window.

Det made a bunch of goofy moves, Cws-Minny are in the dumps. It's really puzzling to me if Cleveland again finishes higher. Exasperating even.

mr. tegu 01-30-2014 07:07 PM

Royals are 33-1 to win the World Series. Yankees are 10-1, which is third behind Detroit and LAD, which is free money for Vegas and they know it.

alnorth 01-30-2014 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10403095)
Royals are 33-1 to win the World Series. Yankees are 10-1, which is third behind Detroit and LAD, which is free money for Vegas and they know it.

Yep, there is no rational reason to put the Yankees as the 3rd-biggest favorites other than the knowledge that you'll get money from reeruned New Yorkers.

Cephalic Trauma 01-30-2014 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10403127)
Yep, there is no rational reason to put the Yankees as the 3rd-biggest favorites other than the knowledge that you'll get money from reeruned New Yorkers.

No need to repeat yourself

Prison Bitch 01-30-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10402821)
I'd rather have Ventura's arm at play in the playoffs



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C3HIEF3S 01-31-2014 12:26 PM

Royals come to a deal wil Crow, avoiding arbitration.

tyton75 01-31-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10404068)
Royals come to a deal wil Crow, avoiding arbitration.

good to hear. numbers?

Cephalic Trauma 01-31-2014 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 10404156)
good to hear. numbers?

1.475 million

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/0...aron-crow.html

alnorth 01-31-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma (Post 10404175)

cool, the original projection was 1.9MM, so it came in less than expected

siberian khatru 01-31-2014 03:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> James Shields tells me that Peter Gammons report that he&#39;s seeking a Zack Greinke-type deal after season is &quot;totally inaccurate.&quot;</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@jflanagankc) <a href="https://twitter.com/jflanagankc/statuses/429353947799638017">January 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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P-90Rex 01-31-2014 03:03 PM

Jeffery Flanagan tweeted:

"#Royals James Shields tells me that Peter Gammons report that he's seeking a Zach Greinke-type deal after the season is "totally inaccurate."

Kerkhoff on Shields:
"Open to talking extension with KC"

Possibility still there. Especially if the Royals put together a winner this season.

alnorth 01-31-2014 03:45 PM

Thats..... interesting. Its not every day that you see a player publicly undermine his value. Even if no one was going to give him a Zack Greinke deal, his "ask" in any negotiations now must be significantly less than that before the haggling begins.


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