Agreed.

I don't understand the debate. Just because I don't like Sapp doesn't mean I don't recognize he was a no-brainer to be a first ballot HOFer.

Eat an extra large bag o dicks

Sapp scored on offense as well. He truely was a game..changer.

You think JJ Watt will get in someday even if he stays with the Texans???

He will make blow up balloon animals from his ass. At your next fantasy football meeting for only $19.95.

John Randle was a better DT than Sapp and didn't make it into the HOF until his second year.

I'm pretty meh with Sapp going in first ballot. I'm fine with it and would have been fine with him waiting a couple of years. Same feelings about Strahan. I think they were pretty comparable at their positions. For example, they are both 7-time ProBowlers and 4 time All Pro. To talk that Sapp was more dominant for a longer period of time just doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

You left out that pesky superbowl win.

Thats messed up.

Both will be in at some point, most likely soon, so I don't care. Does this really help you validate whether a player was great or not?

Strahan won a Super Bowl too.

I assumed he was referring to the comparison to John Randle.

There is definitely a component to this, these days, that incorporates whether someone was a media star, a "colorful figure"

I was referring to Randle.

Al, I have a question in the SuperBowl Q and A thread that needs answered. Reighters won't do it.

Regardless, the SB win doesn't make Sapp a better DT than John Randle.