And thank you for providing absolutely nothing. You don't want Geno, but you're a complete chicken shit hiding behind a mult tag, too gutless to make a call on who you think is worthy of the #1 draft pick or what the Chiefs should do in terms of their QB situation.

Chicken shit.

Why can't all of these mults post on their main account? If your opinion is so Right, then why be ashamed of it?
There are going to be 2 sets of groups:

The people who are right about Geno being good.
The people who are right about Geno being a bust.

You have a 50% chance. Quit being a pussy.

And all of this being said, Geno is still head and shoulders above the three floating QB turds we have on the roster now, and that is even taking into account that he has never faced an NFL defense in his entire playing career.

If I were GM, I'd take a bluechip defender with the 1st overall. I'd take a WR in round 2, trade a 6th for Matt Flynn, suck in 2013 and take Terry Bridgewater or perhaps another emerging QB in 2014.

See that red dot below your post count? it will increase in red, invest away!

Number 1 fan.

Right.

And the debate shouldn't be whether or not the Chiefs should take a QB#1. That is obvious. To those who can't see what their biggest need is, i am sorry for you.

The only debate we should be having is WHO that Qb is.

To those who say there is no Qb worth drafting.....well...you haven't been paying attention to the NFL.

A QB will emerge as the favorite as the months go by. The only question is, which qb will it be.

[QUOTE=Detoxing;9259572]So, 12 times they didn't convert. Geno goes 16/24. Are all 8 of his incompletions on these downs?

Is it his specific audibles on third and fourth downs that ruin WVU's chances at a first?

Neither is the offensive line letting four guys through before he can get into his drop back.

See above. And you are saying the second safety wasn't an illegal leg whip?

And this is why I mentioned Nassib, WVU's pass defense and the weather. But you don't seem to care about any of that, just that Geno "fell on his face" in this game.

Oh, and by the way, who is the "next QB" in your estimation?

Do what? Forced to make downfield passes in the snow and wind? Once Syracuse established the run and virtually were scoring at will with the run, then WVU's only option was the downfield pass. In that weather. With the Syracuse blitz turned up to 11 at that point.

But, yeah, Geno really ****ed up by not passing for 500 yards and 4 TDs in that game. Now I see your point.

Are you ****ing serious? Did you watch the game at all? His defense gave him chances? Like when they failed to stop the run at all, let Syracuse pound it down their throats and dominate the time of possession? Those chances?

Talk about trying to argue with a drunk...

****.

A 6th is NOT going to get Matt Flynn.

Who is that "bluechip" defender you are going to take mult?

And Terry Bridgewater is better than Geno?

Really?

Also, WHAT system to put that QB in. For Instance: If Geno Smith is the guy, you pretty damn well pair him with a OC that is going to utilize his talents in the correct manner.

Now that's an excuse for losers of the 2-14 variety...

Yet you want to spend the #1 overall on a defensive player and trade for Matt Flynn.

That is the same thing this team has done for decades and yet you still want to continue with that plan.

But it's simply not that easy and the Chiefs aren't even close. The road is much longer and tougher..will require a few drafts without major mistakes.

You start with the QB position and build the team around him.

Or are you still watching 1980's football?

They've got two good tackles and a promising interior offensive line.

They've got the second best running back in the NFL.

They've got a very good receiver in Bowe.

They've got three top ten (11) young players on the defensive line.

They've got very good rush ends in Hali and Houston.

They've got a very good ILB in Johnson.

They've got a very good CB in Flowers.

They've got a potentially very good safety in Berry.

And all these guys are young, but have experience.

A horrible attitude generated by Pioli, a horrible game plan and accountability by the coaching staff and the worst QB play in the NFL has held this team down.

1 of those top DE's is a free agent
our 1 good receiver is a free agent.
our 1 good tackle is a free agent. winston sucks, stephenson did ok.
our punter team MVP is a free agent.

another 1 of those top de's is slated to get 14millon this year. he very well may be cut if a restructure can't be agreed upon.

Our #2 corner.. we'll we don't have 1 so teams just throw away from flowers and they march down the field.

Our other ILB sucks so we have to bring that stud Safety to the LOS to help stop the run. Which leaves our #2 safety back to cover and he can't, and he can't tackle either so we can't swap the 2.

Our 2 good rush linebackers just vanish against an average O-Line.

QB is not our only need. but it is a need. so which is the biggest?

That's the other side of the coin. If the 2013 qb class sucks so bad, what will be said about the 2014 class, which is shaping up to gargle salty testicles.

The same things that were said about every QB class aside from the 2012 class.

Wrong wrong wrong. Multi-year rebuilds are a myth, period.

Plug in Matt Flynn or Geno Smith, subtract Bowe and KC offense still sucks.

Yes, I'd take M T'eo. Since Jackson and Dorsey didn't workout, Star would be a good choice to address the D-line. Some talent on D but no depth and some huge holes in the starting lineup at S opposite Berry.

He looks like a future All Pro. Can't do much better than that with a #1 overall pick. As I said, I'd draft Star, the best WR in round 2 and the BPA at QB in round 3. That way, I'd get two highly rated players with my early picks, some QB that can keep the seat warm for the 2014 draft...hit on a few late round picks - good UFA work.

I'm trying to make this roster better, you're trying to fill a need with a reach. I don't know this QB class sucks, but I'm pretty sure it does and Geno Smith is mediocre (okay, but nothing special) like Chad Henne. If you'd rather have me use Chad Pennington I'd be glad to since I think Geno Smith is on that level as far as where he'd rate as a prospect (not comparing their styles, just their value. Geno Smith is presently rated around 25th best player in the draft looking at several draft guys (I don't call them experts) to guage his value. I woudn't reach for that with this #1 overall.

So you are in the opinion that the WR's make the QB, not the QB makes the WR's?

So Eric Decker and Demarius Thomas are making Peyton Manning look great?
So Tom Brady is great because he's throwing to the All Pro's like Branch?

Sigh.

So you wanna put more picks into the Dline, and then a WR, when you have no QB on your team?

Is this Scott Pioli I'm talking to?

LMAO

It's absolutely hilarious how after all these years of Dlineman that anyone can recommend Star on this board or in this fanbase. ILB and Dlineman will not make a lick of difference for the next 2 seasons, a QB will make the difference immediately. Maybe he wont pan out in two three or four years but he'll come in and make an instant impact. If the best years of a normal QB's career are his first few, IE Mark Sanchez, then get going while the gettins good. Save your bullshit pick Star or Manti comments for another board.

This draft is 2000. That's this one. There are no good QB's in this one. Of course you never know when KC will finally find a Russell wilson type, but that's like finding a needle in a haystack.

Geno Smith that guy isn't ready to plug in and play like RG3 or Luck. He'll need some seasoning and he isn't that level of talent.

This draft is 2000 because a couple of media heads have said so and the word spread? The same douchebags who are claiming Glennon is the best QB in the draft? lolz

Was Aaron Rodgers being ranked like 24th best player correct?
Was Tom Brady being a 6th rounder correct?

The thing is dude, you never ****ing know... but with the importance of the QB position, YOU TAKE THE CHANCE.

ROFL

Is Bob ever going to run out of mulls?

Great, another ****stick to kick around.

an IP ban would be nice.

This class sucks but Bridgewater and the other slapdicks in 2014 are worthy?

The QBs are here RIGHT NOW. We have our pick of any of them. What has this franchise suffered from from 2008-2011 supposedly? "No good QBs were available" is what we were told.

What is stopping our situation from worsening in 2014?

Get the QB when he's available. At #1 overall, we HAVE to take one

Great pass rusher in Houston. Bluechip. Red chips Hali, D Johnson, Berry and Flowers. I'm tempted to move Hali up but because the Chiefs are so horrible I can't. Solid LT in Alberts. Not great but a plus player. Young O linemen in Allen, Jon A and Hudson.

I swear to God.....we could have had the 1st overall pick last year and there would have been reeruns bitching about Luck or RGIII.

This post is moronic on all sorts of levels. I want to wreck your soul.

Hey Bowe, Albert, other free agents:

WE want you to stay this year. Please sign here, Manti Teo will take us to the promised land. reerunED.

How so? I think his ability to go through progressions quickly, accuracy, and his mobility make him an excellent fit in a ZBS that utilizes PA off of the stretch play.

His drops from center are fluid and quick and he can certainly get th7 on the stretch and run PA from it. Additionally, his ability to complete the deep ball greatly helps us in terms of PA and opening up the run game, as defenses will be less inclined to leav 9 in the box as they did for the past 4 years.

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Geno didn't do himself any favors, and ****ed his draft stock. Honestly, he'll need to tear it up at the Senior Bowl to gain back any momentum he had during the season.

Because of one game? come on

For what? Eating a safety where the pocket completely collapsed around him? A safety resulting from an ERRONEOUS safety call? A botched center/qb exchange in snowy conditions when they haven't even played from under center all season? Jesus. You guys gonna butcher Tyler Wilson for his poor performance this season?

Whisper it
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It's the last thing the scouts see until the Senior Bowl with questions about how well he plays against top competition this adds to the issue.

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Had nothing to do with top competition. Did you watch the game? had more to do with the conditions then competition.

Situational awareness, you take the snap in the Endzone see free runners and you try to sidestep them? I remember a play this season matt cassel took a snap in the endzone, had free rushers and he dropped the ball and took off trying to escape and he got ridiculed to hell for it. But geno does a BS sidestep and he gets praised for trying to make something happen?
But you know what that kind of stuff happens you move on. And to geno's credit he did..

BUT THEN the pocket breaks down and he scrambles 10 yards back into the endzone and takes another one? I don't care if he was tripped, he shouldn't have put himself in that situation PERIOD! And then to run up and throw a fit in the officials face?

ya he didn't help his stock at ALL that game

Quoted for the people who clearly just read the post-game and didn't watch.

Valid points:
1) Illegal trip brought him down.
2) He got rid of the ball, #13 is eligible receiver. Legal throw-away.
3) Flagged for intentional grounding.
4) Dropped back an extra two steps to evade pressure. Not 10 yards.

Bowe is gone in FA mark it. Baldwin? Another clown that was way overdrafted as it turns out and will be overpaid AGAIN next year. What happened to Cam this year? He's regressed as D's have figured out ways to stop him. Now Carolina has what 6 wins and no playoffs. That is the Chiefs roadmap for 2013 and 2014...be lucky to get more than 12 wins in the next 32 games.

That 1.2 million for Baldwin will totally break the bank next year - dumbass.

This... I don't think his pinstripe bowl performance is going to affect his draft status up or down. There's enough tape of him out there that shows what he can do already. Every year around this time people overreact to bowl performances. Reminds me of all the anti Stafford rhetoric in 2009

The worst thing you can do is make excuses for him.He had a bad game against a team he lost to 3 times prior to this. Geno had a bad game and that's it.

Yep. Those excuses are going to impact something
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the QB whisperer whispereth.

lol

#1 shouldn't have been in that situation PERIOD!
#2 Even IF he was legal again shouldn't have been in that situation!
#3 Shouldn't have been in that situation
#4 the LOS was the 9 yard line, he gets tripped almost 2 yrds deep. again shouldn't have been in that situation

and #5 the kid just doesn't have situational AWARENESS!

So he's not supposed to try to evade pressure and make a play there? What exactly should he have done in that situation? (even giving you the benefit of infinite time to make the decision, a retroactive perspective and a birds-eye view of the play.)

Oh look we've got an expert here folks. You're right, he should of scrambled like a hoss on a snowy, shitty field and those defensive linemen weren't going to peel off the blocks from the epic WVU oline (lol) and destroy him.

Go back to AP.

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Someone has filled your young mind with visions of excellence. You want so much for the Chiefs to be good that you see a middling player and think he's great.

Terry Bridgewater is a lot closer to RG3 than Geno Smith is and thus worth the wait...but I'm a patient guy. The one that waits. You, on the otherhand have crazy hopes for a near term resurrection and that's not going to happen with Geno.

Teddy Bridgewater's brother?

step up in the pocket, he had plenty of room to step up and get out of the tackle box. watch the gif over and over. he had MANY options other than dropping even FURTHER back and into the endzone.

He's rated higher than Russel Wilson was, or Dalton, or Cousins, or Foles.

Geno Smith doesn't approach the QB position remotely like RGIII you ****ing idiot

You remind me of the shitstains that pooh-poohed Stafford, Sanchez, and Freeman in 2009 because "2010 will have Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow".

What pocket? Did you even watch the .gif I posted for you you booger eating moron?

So, 2 random slapdicks sign up and go straight for the Geno thread. Suuuuuuuurely they aren't mults.

Are you kidding me? This is rich! GenoManiacs are hiarious:)

This is gonna continue all the way up to the draft.....

Bring em on!

so your watching the gif and telling me in that gif before he ever takes a step back he can't move up and to either side? your telling me the 1 defender on the 7 that is double teamed, the 1 defender that is double teamed just to his right, and the 1 defender being blocked to his left and he has no where to go? are you ****ing kidding me? are you watching the gif?

He and his left tackle cannot occupy the same space at the same time. That is physics. I can't make this any more simple or basic for you than laws of physics.

WOW are you serious? watch it again, at the very start of the gif when geno sets his feet he has a choice to go forward and elude pressure, instead he hesitates and his left tackle gets pushed into him and he goes even further back into the endzone. and that was already well after the snap and he completed a 7 step drop and he doesn't have the situational awarness to say HMM the LOS is the 9, i took a 7 step drop and my left tackle is getting pushed into me so i shoudl probably step up and escape to the left or right?!?! Instead i'll try to tippy toe into the endzone and dance around 2 250+ defensive lineman?

And you guys claim he has great pocket awarness? comon dude seriously. Either A) you didn't watch the game in realtime like i did and know what went down on that play or B) you've got geno's balls so far down your throat all you can see is "chocolate"

Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid. Well, bye.

I'm not comparing styles here. You've got it twisted. I am a Condor among men I also refuse to trade my clear eyed vision of the wider picture for the dusty eyed views of you GenoManiacs.:thumb:

what you can't understand your blatant fail in describing physics? Just watch teh gif that you think your so right on and you see an obvious lane he can run up. It's not like he had just got the ball and the defender had pushed his LT back 7 yards. He had plenty of time to recognize what was going on.

You admit i'm right in that gif that geno made a BAD mistake and i'll admit what i do and don't like about geno

My hat's off to you guys for trying to polish the turds.

CAnt wait to see Geno in red and yellow.

I don't give a shit what you think about Geno.

i figured that would be your answer.. so instead of acknowledging the fact you "don't give a shit". funny you gave a shit when i posted about geno's fail. but now that you've been proven wrong you don't give one.
Ok

Well, we'll just have to wait and watch to see how bad he is (probably not a total bust, however, he'll have no value.) just far from what you're hoping for in terms of impact with such a high pick.

Bob, why do you hate black people so much?

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Why are so many people in this fanbase scared to draft a qb? I mean what's the worst that could happen? We continue to suck.
If I was drafting I would take a qb in every single round this year.

We are going to draft a QB and guess what? We're still going to suck...for quite sometime I'd add.

You will but we, or the chiefs either, won't
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I'm not the one who said Terry Bridgewater.

Bob, go ahead and get that Bulldog avy up bud.

Me and a long time buddy are pretty pissed at each other right now over a series of texts today. He keeps saying there aren't any franchise qb's in this draft. But when I ask him what we should do instead....crickets.

He just keeps saying it's a shitty year to have the number 1 overall pick, I'm saying it's never a bad year to have it. You get who you want. I think it's Geno, but he watched the Pinstripe Bowl and made his decision that he sucks and we shouldn't take him. I show him his stats for all 3 years in college and all of a sudden I'm "comparing him to Tom Brady."

What is so hard to understand about this? Geno may not be an absolute HOF QB, but I think he's the best in this class. It's our most glaring need, you know he'll be gone by the time our 2nd round pick comes around. Who else could we draft at #1 who CAN take us to the Super Bowl? ****ing no one. What if he turns into the next Jamarcus? Who cares, draft someone else in a couple years.

I think this fanbase really doesn't deserve to have a winning team.