People need to understand this:

There's NO REASON for the Raiders to leak this if they're looking to trade.

Why would anybody wanting Geno trade with the Raiders if they want GENO?

Think for a minute.

Then you'll realize that this came FROM JACKSONVILLE.

I never said I did not like him Pedro. You ASSumed that. Hes just not worth all the hype. Black or white PERIOD. So you can shove your racism talk.

Cause he already had a qb you piece of trash

75% of the time he took a lineman because he already had an All-Pro at the QB position.

I'm totally prepared for this scenario where he drafts the future All-Pro QB in his first year with the Chiefs and then looks to support him in subsequent drafts.

I have been a Raider fan since alot of people here have been alive, I can tell you it's not going to be the same ole same ole The Raiders have had the last 10 years .. Now I am not going to say something stupid like a 4-12 team is going to be a playoff contender next year but this team will be improving...

Raiders have some more whacked out contracts to get rid of, once that happens, the Raiders will start bringing in football players instead of Drama players...

I'm with you, lets draft LT. Let Geno go to Oakland and give these focktard fans a taste of hell.

If anyone reading this wants to draft LT at #1, stop what your doing and go play in traffic.

Fans want to bargain shop for a franchise qb and not be risky


**** them

Good.

The AFC West needs to return to dominance. Football is better when this division is better. There's a history to this division that only the NFC East and NFC North can match. This is/was the premier division in the AFC and needs to be there again.

Was waiting to see who didnt catch the first pick Reid took...lol

100% of the time that he had a top 5 pick and needed a QB, he drafted a QB.

agreed, the same people that supported flying banners to bench Cassel now want Alex Smith...

I hope Alex Smith comes here and infects all the truefans with aids

womp womp :thumb:

Bob lives in a fantasy world. Don't bother.

it has been shitty for far too long...

I so agree. I really don't hate any of the teams anymore because they all SUCK except Denver. I don't even hate Denver anymore because what's the point? When there is real competition (not to see who sucks worse), then the rivalries mean a hell of a lot more and it becomes FUN!

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LOL, forget that he started off his time there with a top 3 pick and took a QB. No since paying any attention to that.



Pretty much. This came from Jacksonville.

I hope a lot of teams want him, that he moves up the draft boards on all teams. It makes us way more likely to pick him.

I don't understand, why would it make more sense for it to be coming from Jacksonville? No one actually thinks the Jaguars want to take a QB in the first round.

Jackson may offer you Gabbart + another pick for the 1st...

Raiders fans are dumb. Just search geno smith in Twitter and you find a hand full saying they already have him in terrel pryor. :facepalm:

What Jackson are you referring to?

A team behind the Raiders with interest in Geno might trade up to J-Ville to take him ahead of the Raiders if they believe the rumor.

I believe it's also possible for the Raiders to be putting this out there in hopes that someone will jump them to take Geno, because they might be concerned that the Jags are targeting their guy.

Jacksonville sorry

It has nothing to do with JAX wanting a qb. It's an attempt to make qb hungry teams believe that OAK wants one and that to get Geno any other team that wants him would have to trade to the 2 spot to get him.

Well in that case, I hope it works. But if for some reason the Chiefs did pass on Geno, I can't imagine Jacksonville doing it also. Unless we got a first for next year. And I don't see many teams doing that for Geno.

Because they're trying to get anyone who may want Geno to try and leap frog Oakland by trading with them.

Yea I had a momentary brain lapse. I was thinking Oakland was ahead of us for a second.

Good point.

Who do you want for Jacksonville?

Guys, leave Tony alone. It's not his fault he suffered oxygen deprivation at birth.

Star or Moore. Possibly Dion Jordan if he steps up in the proday and combine.

Alot of other Jags fans want Werner because they think he has a higher ceiling than Damontre, but I don't personally see it. Bradley was asked about the QB situation and what type of QB he would like. And from the sound of it, I think he wants another Russell Wilson like player. And that to me would be Tajh Boyd. So I wouldn't be opposed to trading down to help get him next year.

I think Werner's ceiling is John Abraham. They are very similar in size, speed, experience and drive at the same stage. Werner can just take over a game when he's on, but can also disappear for periods.

Moore is a difficult guy to figure out. He's a bit of a tweener and he doesn't look like he's got that instinctiveness in his game right now. However, he plays hard, is very athletic and as such, makes a lot of plays from behind that are actually pretty impressive plays. I don't know if he'll be able to do that at the next level though.

I think that Moore, Mingo and Jordan are all the same guy. Very similar games, athleticism and size. I think all will be good pros.

If I was Jacksonville, I'd go with Werner in the first and then Nassib in the second.

Nassib is a reach with the 33rd pick in my opinion. The kid looks lost when he is pressured and has some serious accuracy issues. We already have a QB who is very young and still needs to develop. The only QB I could see us taking really, would be Dysert in like the third.

boy, you sure are stuck on the "next year" bit, aren't you?
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Statistics

Regular season and postseason
[hide]Geno Smith WVU Passing Stats
Season Games Comp-Att Yards Comp % TD INT
2009 5 32–49 309 65.3% 1 1
2010 13 241–372 2763 64.8% 24 7
2011 13 346–526 4385 65.8% 31 7
2012 13 369–518 4205 71.2% 42 6
Total 44 988–1465 11662 67.4% 98 21

You realize we are talking about the Jaguars right? He asked me what I think the Jaguars will do.

Go home you're drunk.

Bridgewater
Boyd
Murray (who is also going to be an old fart, btw)

Yeah, nice QB draft class, asshole

I'd agree with all that, but Nassib does give you a bit more mobility than Gabbert and has put up some prodigious numbers at Syracuse. I think that he's a reach beyond the third, but QB's are going a lot earlier than they probably should the past couple of years and 2013 won't be an exception.

He might even make it into the first when everything is said and done.

And I think Chad Henne is a myth.

They need another QB and will most likely look to the position earlier rather than later. I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like EJ Manuel is considered for their second rounder either.

Nassib or Manuel, if still on the board, will get a serious look if they get their pass rusher (which the Jags desperately need) in the first. Though they might go best OLB as well at the top. Someone like K State's Arthur Brown would help them immensely. Werner and Brown, then Manuel at the top of the third would be a nice scenario for the Jags.

Yea, I have no idea what you are talking about. Stop being an internet gangster.

And the problem with us needing a QB, is that we were also towards the bottom of the NFL in virtually every other category. Our O-Line and entire defense is abysmal. I see us going for a CB with the 33rd so Rashean Mathis can retire into the distance.

you keep waiting for "next year". Dumbass
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Yea...no idea what you are talking about either. I am a jags fan and he asked me about who I think the jags will pick.

If the RAIDERS want Geno, a team is going to have to trade IN FRONT OF THEM to get him, not WITH them.

The Jaguars don't want a QB but you can bet your ass they'd love to get a ****ing HAUL like the Rams got last year to trade down.

If the Raiders want Geno, anybody else that wants him is going to have to trade with the Jags.

This whole thread is shenanigans. If the Chiefs don't draft Geno, Jaguars will. Geno will not be a Raider

I'd much rather have Moore than Werner.

And Tajh Boyd is not Russell Wilson.

One has pinpoint accuracy, the other has...well...

Well you are a ****ing idiot then.

I made a comment of your use of "next year" all the ****ing time.

you said I was drunk, which made no sense.

I'm telling you "next year"never comes.

Go **** yourself
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If the Raiders want Geno, they can suck it, because the Chiefs are drafting him. The rest of these dipshits can fight it out for Barkley and Glennon and Wilson and Nassib. Geno is going to be a Chief.

You said next year's QB class is going to be really good.

It's not. It has the potential to be worse than 2010.

Don't tell him that. He exemplifies that whole Jags board. Scared as shit to draft a QB at all. It's defeatist and stupid.

I'm on the Geno or Bust bandwagon right now. This team has been plagued by terrible QB play with the exception of a few years of Montana and Green. Anybody who says QB isn't out biggest team need by a wide margin doesn't understand the game, or doesn't actually watch Chiefs football. We just witnessed the worst season in franchise history and the fans need to be shown that the franchise wants to get better NOW, even if Geno has questionable traits we don't know about. If Dorsey drafts Geno and flops, then I'm OK with it, because I know they made an attempt to improve the most glaring need on this franchise. This team has to try and try again till they get it right. Once a franchise QB is in place, then build the offense around his strengths. From that point, Dorsey can stay loyal to his draft board and take BPA in every round.

There is no QB in the draft worth a #3 pick much less the #1

We need a pass rusher first , Our running game will be fine now that the zbs shit is gone and we are going back to the pbs .

We are weak at CB so a pass rusher is essential to limiting a QB time to throw the ball.

Raiders will not take a QB with their first pick

:spock:

Who is worth the #1 then?

I don't think there is a QB in this draft who would be a top 10 pick most years.

Some years there are good QB classes. Some years there are David Carr / Joey Harrington classes.

Oh there will be some gems to be had but they will have to be found in this draft.

Sometimes you HAVE to draft based upon need rather than BPA in the Chiefs scenario.

Where was RG3 rated this time last year?

IT IS WAY TOO SOON TO KNOW WHO IS GOING WHERE

This is such a hot steaming pile of dogshit.

2011 NFL Draft:
1) Cam Newton
8) Jake Locker
10) Blaine Gabbert
12) Christian Ponder

2012 NFL Draft:
1) Andrew Luck
2) Robert Griffin III
8) Ryan Tannehill

Geno Smith would be the number two QB in 2011 and the number three QB in 2012 and absolutely would have been drafted top 10 both years.

Oh I agree... But do the Chiefs really need a QB more than any other need on this team.... Thats the question

:spock:

You can post this shit all you want but just because this forum has a hard-on for a qb does not mean that is the direction Andy Reid wants to go right now...

It's the question the way 'is the sky blue?' Is the question. Of course it ****ing is, and of course they ****ing do.

You saw the shit QB play the Chiefs had, right?

How could ANY football fan with an ounce of football knowledge, not know they need a QB more than any other position?

My 'spock' emoticon was in response to your reeruned comment, not what Reid is going to do.

Only the cheap stuff like Cuervo, real agave brands like Patron or Cabo are actually quite smooth and tolerable.

The ****?

Guys, he's a Raider fan AND a troll.

And he agrees with BlackBob.

What does that tell you?

You're looking at it completely wrong. It doesn't really matter that Mel Kiper and Todd McShay think there's no quarterback in this draft who's worth a top 10 pick or a #1 overall pick. I guarantee you there is one. The trick is to figure out who it is, and then to draft him. When you have the #1 overall pick, no team can take him away from you. That's a rare luxury.

The franchise quarterbacks listed below weren't considered good enough to be top 10 picks when they came out of college:

Brady - 6th round
Flacco - 18th overall
Roethlisberger - 11th overall
Aaron Rodgers -24th overall
Drew Brees - 32nd overall
Colin Kaepernick - 2nd round (36th overall)
Russell Wilson - 3rd round (75th overall)

Are you going to tell me that guys like Brady, Roethlisberger and Rogers weren't REALLY worth a #1 overall pick when they came out?

The fact that they were drafted so low doesn't mean they weren't good enough to be a top 10 pick. All it means is that the evaluation process is very imprecise and it's difficult to get it exactly right.

A team that drafted any of the guys listed above would NOT have wasted its #1 overall pick, no matter what guys like Kiper and McShay think.

That's the point. It's up to John Dorsey and Andy Reid to figure out who the best quarterback is in this draft, and then DRAFT HIM. It doesn't matter that you have to use the #1 overall pick to get him.

Come on man, Aaron Rodgers went 24th overall.

Why in the world would you give up all that VALUE by drafting him #1?

What position do we have a bigger need at?

Seriously, I do not know... You guys were 2-14 and we were 4-12 , neither one of us are 1 player away

Who said that?

Setsuna > B14ckmon > Cassel

Don't be mad because you've been here a decade and get made to look stupid by the new guy.

No one is forcing you to post like a uneducated inner city youth.

Am I the only one that pictures Sandusksuna as the guy in the Old Spice commercials?

I was talking about the Jaguars taking a QB next year, sherlock. We do not have the #1 pick. I never said anything about "next year" when talking about the Chiefs.

That's racist!

There are white people who live in the inner city.

Your assumption was racist though.

It's a long-standing joke on this forum. :facepalm:

I never said you said it in reference to the chiefs dumbass.

kindly go **** yourself
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I know you were joking, but if I didn't clarify I would have got torched. This forum is one big Mob-Hate Circle Jerk

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...So you are mad about me saying the Jaguars should wait until next year to get a QB in the draft? What? We just drafted one two years ago.